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Techno/Trance

Postby Vekter » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:50 pm UTC

So, I just got back into listening to Techno. So far, all I have is some Daft Punk, "Firestarter" by Prodigy, and "He's a Pirate".

Any suggestions?
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Aluminus » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:05 pm UTC

Underworld:
"Rez/Cowgirl"
"Dark Train"
"Dirty Epic (Dirty Guitar Mix)"

Does Underworld count as trance? I actually have no idea.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Aleril » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:49 pm UTC

Dj Tiesto, VNV Nation and BT are some good ones.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:43 am UTC

well if you are talking about electronica in general, there's some triphop stuff that i really like including tricky and portishead
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:05 am UTC

*ahem*

Artist - Song(s)

Armin Van Buuren - Sail, ASOT 209
Paul Oakenfold - Any live set
Paul Van Dyke - Any live set
Dj Sasha - Any live set
Ulrich Schnauss - On My Own
Luke Chable - Your Light
Junkie XL - Red, Beauty Never Fades, Tennis, Mushroom, Red Pill Blue Pill
Dogzilla - Without You
Cosmic Gate - Somewhere over the Rainbow, Should Have Known
Tiff Lacey - Should Have Known, Close Your Eyes
U.N.K.L.E. - In A State
Quivver - Space Maneouvres (any part, or mix)
Benni Benassi - Satisfaction, Able to Love, Hypnotica Album, any live set
Pendulum - Hold Your Colour, Terminal, Blood Sugar, Fasten Your Seatbelts, Voodoo People Remix, Essential Mix '05
Maximum Tuned (1st OST)
LFO (Low Frequency Oscillation) - Shove Piggy Shove, Freak, Tied Up (Sweep Mix)
Aphex Twin - To many songs to list, try DrukQs for starter album
The Flashbulb - Lawn Wake Series
m1dy - Badboy, Speedcore Dandy, Tokyo Style Speedcore, Cold Pizza
Dj Sharpnel - Too many to list + Live set
Dj Scooter - Fire, Weekend
Alek Szahala - Balmagarea, Icy Clouds, any live set
Juno Reactor - Conquistador, Masters of the Universe, Guardian Angel,
Animatrix OST
Venetian Snares - Epidermis
Meat Katie - Live Sets
Elite Force - Live Sets
Massive Attack - Dissolved Girl
Aqua - Candy Man, Halloween
Phil Kieran - I Love You
Satoshi Tomiie - Live Sets, Virus
Randy Katana - Play It Louder

Just those off the top of my head.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Prole » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:39 am UTC

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Underworld
Digitalism
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All of daft punk ever - Alive 2007 is great.

For some less 'intense' electronica

Ellie allien & Apparat

Apparat particularly is very classy.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Aleril » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:46 pm UTC

Richard D. James

'nough said.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby hellmitre » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:22 am UTC

Astral Projection, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto. If you like general electronica too, try assemblage23. Oh, and VNV Nation. VNV Nation is just good.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:44 am UTC

Aleril wrote:Richard D. James

'nough said.


AKA Aphex Twin, and many other aliases.

Prole wrote:All of daft punk ever - Alive 2007 is great.


I'm so willing to argue that... They're good, but just for me it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over rated.

Bleh. Fun stuff, but not the best.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Aleril » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:24 pm UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:
Aleril wrote:Richard D. James

'nough said.


AKA Aphex Twin, and many other aliases.


Yes, although Aphex is most well known, check wiki for the rest of his aliases. He made a TON of songs under all of them.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:19 am UTC

5+ gigs worth.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:53 pm UTC

and no one has mentioned infected mushroom yet?
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Prole » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:28 pm UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:
Aleril wrote:Richard D. James

'nough said.


AKA Aphex Twin, and many other aliases.

Prole wrote:All of daft punk ever - Alive 2007 is great.


I'm so willing to argue that... They're good, but just for me it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over rated.

Bleh. Fun stuff, but not the best.


Its good, i'll not have snobbery when it comes to daft punk.

I'll admit the most recent album is pretty poor as an album (all of daft punk ever may have been an overstatement), it seems to have been created to mix in well with the rest of their songs in a strange way.

I have found found that the most overlooked of tracks on their albums turn out to be excellent.

Also, aphex, yes. :)
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby dubsola » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:22 pm UTC

scrt_rbt_agnt wrote:and no one has mentioned infected mushroom yet?
Well, you have now, rbt! Google tells me it's an Israeli Trance outfit.

Ok so I have liked techno for a long time, but probably not the kind of techno that most people associate it with. I don't like trance, so won't even try to talk about it. In some categorisations of electronic music, the techno I like (or have liked in the past) usually refers to Detroit techno, European "hard" techno (sometimes called Shranz, but that was always a bit much for me), or minimal techno. I used to play this stuff a lot as a DJ, and have a bunch of records, old and new.

Detroit techno
"Detroit techno is an early style of electronic music originating from Detroit suburbs in the mid-1980s. A distinguishing trait of Detroit techno is the use of analog synthesizers and early drum machines, notably the roland TR-909 for its production."

See: Juan Atkins (Model 500), Kevin Saunderson (Inner City), Derrick May (Rhythm is Rhythm), Jeff Mills (Axis, Purposemaker), Ritchie Hawtin, Carl Craig, Daniel Bell, Robert Hood, Kenny Larkin, Eddie Fowlkes, DJ Bone, Mike Banks (Underground Resistance), Drexciya, Dopplereffekt, Octave One, Claude Young, Keith Tucker, DJ Rolando, James Pennington (Suburban Knight), Aux 88.

See also: Detroit Electronic Music Festival (DEMF).

See also: I uploaded a mix I did in 1999, of Detroit techno with a little bit of hard techno.

European Hard Techno
"a style of techno typically around 150-170 BPM and based around massively bass-heavy kick drums, driving percussion and distorted, looping synth noises. The music can however be slower.... The "original" Schranz sound is a harder, uptempo Techno style inspired by Detroit Techno, but with reduced melodic elements (often just single synth stabs or atmospheric sweeps) and emphasis on percussion. A trademark of the style are heavily compressed and filtered loops, combined with Roland 909 kick drums, snares and hihats."

See: DJ Rush, Cari Lekebusch, Andreas Kremer, Adam Beyer, Thomas Krome, Luke Slater

Minimal
"Minimal techno, a minimalist sub-genre of Techno music, is characterized by a stripped-down, glitchy sound, a fairly steady rhythm (usually around 120-135 BPM), repetition of short loops, and subtle changes."

See: Daniel Bell, Richie Hawtin (a.k.a. Plastikman), Ricardo Villalobos, Mika Vainio, Maurizio (Basic Channel), Steve Bug, Luciano (Lucien Nicolet), Sleeparchive (Roger Semsroth), Sutekh (Seth Horvitz)

The new Fabric CD, Fabric 36 is by Ricardo Villalobos and is particularly good.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby semicolon » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:24 am UTC

I'm so willing to argue that... They're good, but just for me it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over rated.

Please to be recommending better, similar artists. I already know about Justice and Digitalism though.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Aleril » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:43 am UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:5+ gigs worth of pure awesome



Fix'd

But with him, start out with Aphex Twin with Drukqs, then Selected Ambient Works 85-92.

After that, here are his other pseudonyms:

AFX
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby semicolon » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:33 am UTC

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby csd » Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:05 am UTC

Kyle Ward ( :) , Inspector K, KaW, etc.) is a good one.
Pendulum is awesome if you like drum and bass.
Goldfrapp is a great electronic group.
Ian Van Dahl should definitely be here.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby no-genius » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:33 pm UTC

Have you heard of the Global Underground compilation series?

I used to looove GU14 (John Digweed in Hong Kong). The first disc is basically house/techno, the second one ~trance?

Haha that was so many years ago :P
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby semicolon » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:54 pm UTC

csd wrote:Kyle Ward ( :) , Inspector K, KaW, etc.) is a good one.

Sorry, but no. Kyle Ward is absolute garbage. "Hey guys check it out I can make this same synth that I use every song go really fast!" IT's weird that you'd mention Pendulum, who is really good, and Kyle Ward, who is really bad, right next to each other.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:11 pm UTC

garbage??? Infection/Petrification was a bad ass song....

Maybe i'm just that loving about stepmania/itg. XD.

However TaQ IS good. And even Taka. The one who did Gradiustic Cyber.

Pendulum shows its real colours (hahaha) in live sets. good album, but jungle sound gold was... eh. Also even if pendulum is good it's not typical drum and bass. Its like a mix of dance and drum & bass. Venetian Snares is a very good example of drum and bass.

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Postby BobMacDhonnchaidh » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:26 pm UTC

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby clayasaurus » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:24 am UTC

Aluminus wrote:Underworld:
"Rez/Cowgirl"
"Dark Train"
"Dirty Epic (Dirty Guitar Mix)"

Does Underworld count as trance? I actually have no idea.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:03 am UTC

dubsola wrote:DJ Rush


I will very much second that. Goooood stuff. :D Actually my friend who showed me InDaMix.ca was heavily into him. I think he saw him live, but i very much owe the guy a lot for showing me a lot of music including Dj Rush.

There different kinds of ambient. Not that i heard a lot of Underworld... but i remember they were labeled under trance, and were noted for a song called Born Slippy. Which i don't think i found a good version to date (just the one i see from Train Spotting OST which didn't impress me at all). :/. In any case I'm not sure if they are ambient or not. If they did do the song I heard as Born Slippy, then I would not consider them ambient. Ambient to me would be I Am Robot, or ... Auditory Canvas. (highly recommended)

Also Dubsola. You say you don't like trance. I must inquire why or at least what artists you have heard of to make that opinion. I mean I like all sorts, but i find it a little amazing you don't like trance if I'm willing to pull out a certain set for you to hear.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby dubsola » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:28 pm UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:
dubsola wrote:DJ Rush
I will very much second that. Goooood stuff. :D Actually my friend who showed me InDaMix.ca was heavily into him. I think he saw him live, but i very much owe the guy a lot for showing me a lot of music including Dj Rush.
Yeah. Confession: Nowadays I kinda feel that music to be 'old'. Not in a bad way, because I'm fine with being nostalgic now and then - and obviously it's somewhat ridiculous to be nostalgic about music that's less than 15 years old... but I do anyway. I remember dancing to that stuff years ago, head full of chemicals, kinda getting interested in DJing, and these days I'm pretty removed from that. Most of the time when I go out, it's to dubby stuff, slower and funkier, and I'll be just drinking beer.

Having said all that, every so often it's great to go back and hear it all again, and even maybe go out for a night on the town once in a blue moon. And it's also awesome that you are getting into it now. Similar situation: me getting into Detroit techno in the late 90s, as for someone IN Detroit, who'd been hearing it since it started (5 or 10 years before then).

There's so much out there to listen to.

Also Dubsola. You say you don't like trance. I must inquire why or at least what artists you have heard of to make that opinion. I mean I like all sorts, but i find it a little amazing you don't like trance if I'm willing to pull out a certain set for you to hear.
Oakenfold, Tiesto, Van Dyke, and the semi-trance / progressive guys like Sasha and Digweed. I've just never liked it, it doesn't tickle my neurons in that way, y'know. Hate to use this word, but it sounds really white. I need a little something special. There's no jazziness in the percussion, the melodies are really simplistic but without being minimal or restrained, there are no weird sounds (I like weird sounds), the breaks are predictable, the drums don't change, even with epic hard techno from Europe (like Lekebush, Mull, Beyer etc), which I can really only handle for a bit, at least the drums are sometimes off kilter, the drops are heavy, all the sounds are compressed in an incredibly heavy and therefore interesting way, so it's a bit of a mind-fuck... and I fully admit that all these things are just personal taste, there ain't a thing wrong with someone else liking it. In fact, look at a big rave - a lot more people like it than like the music I like. But yeah - it's never done it for me.

I'd be happy to hear some good stuff you recommend. Setting is important as well - that kind of music does well when driving a car at night, or at least playing a car racing game. You gotta be in the right mood for it :D


Going back to other people's recommendations (ones that I like):

tricky and portishead - yes
Ulrich Schnauss - yes
LFO - ah this takes me back. See if you can find the Chris Cunningham video, it's incredible
Aphex Twin - obviously
Venetian Snares - yes, this is pretty heavy
Apparat - one of my favourite artists ever
Ellen Alien - I used to like her, then I saw her DJ, and ugh - she can't mix, and her music was boring.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:42 pm UTC

Hahaha those guys. I consider them house, and semi trance. You have to hear This.. The frst hour is very deep. The second hour is *all* power house trance. It just reallllly makes you want to move. At least try and make it into "Play It Louder". Then tell me what you think.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby semicolon » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:45 am UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:Venetian Snares is a very good example of drum and bass.

Sorry, what? Venetian Snares is breakcore. Pendulum is pretty much quintessential D&B.

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Postby bananarchy » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:31 am UTC

Markus Schulz - Miami '05, Ibiza '06, and Progression are all freaking fantastic IMO.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:37 am UTC

semicolon wrote:
Dark Ragnarok wrote:Venetian Snares is a very good example of drum and bass.

Sorry, what? Venetian Snares is breakcore. Pendulum is pretty much quintessential D&B.


Ah well, growing with Aphex as my definition of drum and bass... However, because I don't know relatively much on D & B enlighten me on other artists for good D & B? I been looking for some.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Iori_Yagami » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:44 pm UTC

Count me in your club. It's hard acid techno , baby!
Really, I was fond of electronic music since early days, as Das Boot by U96 came out. For quite a long time I was a teenager (surprise!) and my unrefined taste was bent towards 2 Unlimited, Scooter and other MoDo. Then there was that hit "I like to move it, move it, move it" stupid, but catchy song, then the Prodigy* (Those were the times!), Chemical Brothers, Fat Boy Slim came out of the shadows. I like everything complicated (so no garage house and gabba, please!), including trippy trance, buzzing acid, slash-boing-clinging techno, soothing ambient, weird jungle. I do not like lyrics and songs. Really, I like music by itself, poetry by itself - separated.

*Yeah, I remember how I 'showed 'em' during my final school party. You see, I was geeky enough, I did not attend parties at all. But at the final I danced rabidly to Prodigy's 'No Good', and it was a dream. I only remember that I was tired and gasping after that, that all nearby dancers moved away so I would not by accident push them, that one of my shoes flew away, and I was happy as never before... :lol:
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby miraidesuka » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:48 pm UTC

Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren are two of my personal fav's.

There's a 'rave' up here in Seattle at the Pacific Science Museum twice a year, it's awesome, and the DJ's are always excellent.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:32 pm UTC

Iori_Yagami wrote:*Yeah, I remember how I 'showed 'em' during my final school party. You see, I was geeky enough, I did not attend parties at all. But at the final I danced rabidly to Prodigy's 'No Good', and it was a dream. I only remember that I was tired and gasping after that, that all nearby dancers moved away so I would not by accident push them, that one of my shoes flew away, and I was happy as never before... :lol:


I love how prodigy has pendulum's remix of voodoo people on their music player. XD.

miraidesuka wrote:Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren are two of my personal fav's.

There's a 'rave' up here in Seattle at the Pacific Science Museum twice a year, it's awesome, and the DJ's are always excellent.


I seen both live. Armin is much more impressive. I think tiesto gets a little too much credit. Not to say he doens't deserve it. But just, i think armin has so much more to show for it.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby HughbertD » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:26 pm UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:
semicolon wrote:
Dark Ragnarok wrote:Venetian Snares is a very good example of drum and bass.

Sorry, what? Venetian Snares is breakcore. Pendulum is pretty much quintessential D&B.


Ah well, growing with Aphex as my definition of drum and bass... However, because I don't know relatively much on D & B enlighten me on other artists for good D & B? I been looking for some.


@Ragnarok - Pendulum really, really is NOT quintessential drum and bass. It's more of a rocky, techno vibe. Some of the earlier stuff is just about DnB but thats about it.

If you want some definite drum and bass, Ed rush and Optical, Total Science, Photek, Seba to name a few are the way to go.

Alternatively you could check some of my mixes at http://www.djduff.co.uk
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby majikthise » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:50 pm UTC

There's an expletive-load of free Goa/Psy-Trance sets here, some of which are highly excellent. You even get amusing short descriptions of each one- which are just slightly new-age and pretentious but good nonetheless.
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Re: Techno/Trance

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Bando » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:45 am UTC

Global Deejays Vs. Benny Benassi - San Fransisco Dreaming

Uber-awesome song. I'm not big into techno/trance, but I really like this one.
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby CrackTheSky » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:39 am UTC

I'm really heavy into trance, it's pretty much all I've been listening to lately (although I'm pretty new to the whole electronica scene). I love most forms of electronica that I've heard, but trance is definitely my favorite. If you wanna hear a good song, check this out:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/12/14 ... 0Arise.mp3

Probably the best trance song I've heard. In my opinion, anyway.

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dark Ragnarok » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:14 am UTC

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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby Dream » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:57 pm UTC


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Madness. Human After All is a very natural progression in the Daft Punk canon. Don't let the odd guitar solo/vocal part on Discovery fool you. It's all about looping and subtle effects and synth twerking. And HAA has all that in spades. It also has the best vocoding on any Daft Punk album to date, and we all know that's why we really listen ;)
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Re: Techno/Trance

Postby CrackTheSky » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:41 am UTC

Dark Ragnarok wrote:I'll up you a "Without You" by Dogzilla. Let me know if you change your mind.

Get the 12 Inch Cut or "Above and Beyond" (Artist) Frases Introzilla Mash up (Song). Otherwise taste it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1kMVIzLGEA

Definitely didn't change my mind :P It was pretty good, but I wasn't liking the vocals very much.


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