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Re: Death Metal

Postby Midnight » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:42 am UTC

see the difference between music and not-music is that little thing some call "melodic crap". i draw the line when bands are named "goregasm" "sexcrement" "vulvectomy"... that's like bad horror movies nowadays. bloodporn. songs about freakish and bad gore-porn.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby scottness » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:22 am UTC

Cannibal Corpse?
60% of the time, it works 100% of the time.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby iddqd » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:09 pm UTC

Midnight wrote:see the difference between music and not-music is that little thing some call "melodic crap". i draw the line when bands are named "goregasm" "sexcrement" "vulvectomy"... that's like bad horror movies nowadays. bloodporn. songs about freakish and bad gore-porn.

So you're saying bands like Sexcrement aren't music? Wow, that's closed-minded. I suggest you check them out before making up your mind about them.

And yes, it's "blood-porn". Mostly because it's funny.

scottness wrote:Cannibal Corpse?

Sure. The old stuff is great and the newer albums are decent.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Midnight » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:32 am UTC

but i dont really consider.. joke songs.. to have musical value. I mean yeah, a song by jack black about the best song in the world, or a song about smashing in faces with hammers is funny for a little while.. but it gets old quickly.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby iddqd » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:04 am UTC

Midnight wrote:but i dont really consider.. joke songs.. to have musical value. I mean yeah, a song by jack black about the best song in the world, or a song about smashing in faces with hammers is funny for a little while.. but it gets old quickly.

I think you've misunderstood something. Sometimes it's because it's funny, but it also fits the music. For example, how would a song like "Hammer Smashed Face" sound if the lyrics where about saving the polar bears or explaining your feelings for a girl? It would be ridiculous.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Midnight » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:17 pm UTC

iddqd wrote:
Midnight wrote:but i dont really consider.. joke songs.. to have musical value. I mean yeah, a song by jack black about the best song in the world, or a song about smashing in faces with hammers is funny for a little while.. but it gets old quickly.

Sometimes it's because it's funny, but it also fits the music. For example, how would a song like "Hammer Smashed Face" sound if the lyrics where about saving the polar bears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eljjOJwlDY

which is to say, I'm down with death metal that's about saving the whales.
*though i will say that this is one of their lightest songs. and they're more proggy death metal anyways. so to prove my point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPXV4vUDlqs is one of their heavier songs.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby Lebynthos » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:36 pm UTC

Oh I loves me some DM. No mention of Napalm Death? Obituary? Arsis? Bolt Thrower? For shame!

There is a LOT of shit in death metal, like in every genre. But the good is damn good :D I recommend people check out Six Feet of Foreplay. Brilliant zombie-themed death metal, damned funny too. They've got an EP free to download on their website as well, so there's no excuse!

Edit: Didn't realise it was my first post too :P been lurking for a while, thought it must have already happened...

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:52 pm UTC

Indeed, accolades and praise all around for Arsis and Bolt Thrower. Shame bolt thrower split up, but they have class for going out on a high note when they realized they didn't think they could top themselves.
Obituary is solid but not my favorite, and I never gave napalm death much of a chance TBH.

On a somewhat related note, Amoral's new singer, musical direction, and single off their forthcoming album are mindbogglingly bad. Compare this (old) with this (new). What the heck flying goddamn tapdancing fuck happened?

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Re: Death Metal

Postby IggyJack » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:53 am UTC

Hm, some bands that would be good to me in the Death Metal section would be Darkest Hour, Bring Me The Horizon, It Dies Today, Diecast, Avenged Sevenfold (HAHAHAHA, no, just kidding). I like A7X, but they are no longer even metal.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:00 pm UTC

IggyJack wrote:Hm, some bands that would be good to me in the Death Metal section would be Darkest Hour, Bring Me The Horizon, It Dies Today, Diecast, Avenged Sevenfold (HAHAHAHA, no, just kidding). I like A7X, but they are no longer even metal.


You're kidding about all of those bands right, not just avenged sevenfold? Because i'm 99% those are all metalcore bands, not death metal. I might be wrong, not having actually listened to most of those, but I know Darkest Hour is definitely metalcore (now anyways, they used to be melo-death), and avenged sevenfold......isn't really my thing.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby IggyJack » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:36 pm UTC

novax6 wrote:
IggyJack wrote:Hm, some bands that would be good to me in the Death Metal section would be Darkest Hour, Bring Me The Horizon, It Dies Today, Diecast, Avenged Sevenfold (HAHAHAHA, no, just kidding). I like A7X, but they are no longer even metal.


You're kidding about all of those bands right, not just avenged sevenfold? Because i'm 99% those are all metalcore bands, not death metal. I might be wrong, not having actually listened to most of those, but I know Darkest Hour is definitely metalcore (now anyways, they used to be melo-death), and avenged sevenfold......isn't really my thing.
I guess I was going off of the heaviest things I listen to. I cant really stand super death metal that much. The only thing that i would think of is Job For A Cowboy.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby SlithVampir » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:45 pm UTC

If you want to develop an interest, don't go to the record store and go for the new Cannibal Corpse or Deicide records.

Look into some of the melodic death records.

Amon Amarth With Oden on Our Side

Children of Bodom Follow the Reaper

In Flames Whoracle

Then, try out some of the more extreme thrash.

Slayer Reign in Blood

Kreator Pleasure to Kill

Sodom Agent Orange

Last, these are a few of my favorite Death Metal records.

Death The Sound of Perseverance

Deicide Serpents of the Light

Nile Annihilation of the Wicked

Behemoth Demigod

It'll take a while, but eventually you'll get a feel for one of the most underrated and technical musical genres ever.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby rustedneurons » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:56 pm UTC

Zak wrote:Hatebeak...

Has a bird for the lead vocalist.

That is awesome.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Qoppa » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:43 am UTC

SlithVampir wrote:Behemoth Demigod.
One of my favourite albums. Awesome.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:50 am UTC

Death is fucking awesome. Everything from Human on kicks ass.
My favorite Slayer album was always and (most likely) will always be South of Heaven.

I can appreciate Nile and I dig some of their stuff (lashed to the slave stick!) but they are way too fast for their own good most of the time. It's like "hey thats aweso-its gone" with most of their riffs. If they would just slow down a little bit I think I'd like them a lot more. This is all IMO of course. I know lots of people who love them.

That new Kreator album kicks some ass though. A few really excellent songs on there.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Midnight » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:05 am UTC

behemoth is so metal it hurts.

prometherion or whatever the song is? it's practically a joke. but they're totally serious. which is why it's awesome. the drums on that are amazing, not from any specific cool thing, or technical fill, but the fact that he's ripping eight and sixteenth notes at 300 bpm or whatever..
uhhhh fuck.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Zerstörer » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:21 am UTC

A lot of the distaste for death metal vocals comes from the fact that the vocals are used as a percussive device, rather than melodic like most genres. As for intelligibility, it's sort of like rap in a way. I can usually tell what a DM vocalist is doing, just because I listen primarily to extreme genres, but often have no idea what a rap artist is trying to say, because I'm not used to it, and vice versa for a rap/hip-hop fan.

Some essentials: (and no, growly vocals =/= death metal. See: Opeth, Children of Boredom, etc.)

Nile — Annihiliation of the Wicked (already mentioned, but it is simply that good.)
Grave — Into the Grave
Morbid Angel — Blessed Are the Sick
Gorguts — Obscura (an example of a "gory" name not really doing justice: these guys are extremely experimental.)
Immolation — Dawn of Possession
Incantation — Onward to Golgotha
Morgoth — Cursed
Psycroptic — The Scepter of the Ancients
Death — Human
Cynic — Focus
Atheist — Unquestionable Presence
Demilich — Nespithe
Entombed — Left Hand Path
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Re: Death Metal

Postby sio » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:20 am UTC

I listen to some death-influenced stuff, but no pure death.

I love Sirenia (goth/death/doom).

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Oflick » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:12 pm UTC

Zerstörer wrote:Gorguts — Obscura (an example of a "gory" name not really doing justice: these guys are extremely experimental.)


That and Symbolic by Death are my favourite death metal albums.

Though Human has a place in my heart, because lack of comprehension was the first death metal song I really liked.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Sowilo » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:01 pm UTC

My first post at any forum always seems to pertain to music somehow.

But whatev. On topic, I could never get into the more brutal/pure variants of DM. However, I -love- melodic DM. One of my favorite genres, in fact. My favorite bands being:

-Dark Tranquillity
-Amon Amarth
-Insomnium
-Norther
-Mors Principium Est
-Kalmah

Beyond that, I listen to a lot of bands that are influenced by DM but wouldn't really be part of the genre.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:05 am UTC

Sowilo wrote:My first post at any forum always seems to pertain to music somehow.

But whatev. On topic, I could never get into the more brutal/pure variants of DM. However, I -haaate- melodic DM. One of my favorite genres, in fact. My favorite bands being:

-Dark Tranquillity
-Amon Amarth
-Insomnium
-Norther
-Mors Principium Est
-Kalmah

Beyond that, I listen to a lot of bands that are influenced by DM but wouldn't really be part of the genre.


I was about to groan at melodic death metal when you said that, thinking already of Soilwork and Arch Enemy, but that's a good list. Insomnium is one of my favorite bands ever. I might argue at Amon Amarth being melodeath, but it's all good either way.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby TheAmazingRando » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:25 am UTC

You cannot discuss melodeath without In Flames' second album, The Jester Race. I didn't care much for Lunar Strain (which came before it) and I didn't care much for Whoracle (which came after it) and everything since then has degraded in quality up until the unfathomable shittiness that is their more recent work (Soundtrack to Your Escape, Reroute to Remain, their newest which I can't remember and can't be bothered to look up). However, you can't match The Jester Race for fun, guitar-driven, Gothenburg-style melodeath.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:53 am UTC

I've never been much of an In Flames fan, but I can appreciate their older stuff a bit, just because I had friends that were huge fans.
Their new stuff is horrid though. It's really amazing how bad it is.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby sio » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:49 am UTC

sio wrote:I haaate Sirenia (goth/death/doom).


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Re: Death Metal

Postby UNC_Metalhead » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:36 pm UTC

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Re: Death Metal

Postby O'Malley » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:34 am UTC

Honestly, I really like Carcass - Heartwork. It's got just the right amount of melody to make the music worth listening to, but they still retain a lot of the harshness of their previous albums. In Reek of Putrefaction, their technical abilities got buried under a lot of wet noise. But on Heartwork, it shines as clearly as the H.R. Giger skeleton on the front cover. I recommend it to anyone. At all. It's really worth giving a listen.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby reaper01134 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:16 pm UTC

First off, Children of Bodom freaking rock socks off. Listen to Hate Me! or the song called Children of Bodom. Both are great melodic metal songs.

No one has mentioned Unearth as far as I have read and they also rock socks off. Listen to Giles! It is very awesome. The Chariot are pretty good too and have the lead singer from Norma Jean. As for Slayer, listen to Disciple and Threshold. Both extremely good songs to rock out too. Cannibal Corpse is freaking god-like as well and if you have not listened to Hammer Smashed Face, do so immediately, with all haste. The Black Dahlia Murder is pretty good sometimes too and Killswitch Engage is one of my favorite bands ever. Their cover of Holy Diver is so sick.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby Cathode Ray Sunshine » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:09 am UTC

novax6 wrote:I was about to groan at melodic death metal when you said that


What's so bad about Melo-Death? Though to be fair, the list of good bands is pretty short.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Qoppa » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:43 am UTC

reaper01134 wrote:First off, Children of Bodom freaking rock socks off. Listen to Hate Me! or the song called Children of Bodom. Both are great melodic metal songs.

No one has mentioned Unearth as far as I have read and they also rock socks off. Listen to Giles! It is very awesome. The Chariot are pretty good too and have the lead singer from Norma Jean. As for Slayer, listen to Disciple and Threshold. Both extremely good songs to rock out too. Cannibal Corpse is freaking god-like as well and if you have not listened to Hammer Smashed Face, do so immediately, with all haste. The Black Dahlia Murder is pretty good sometimes too and Killswitch Engage is one of my favorite bands ever. Their cover of Holy Diver is so sick.
Um, no not really. First, Unearth, and Killswitch are metalcore, so wrong thread. And CoB are really not that spectacular... there is a lot of better metal out there.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby reaper01134 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:30 am UTC

Qoppa wrote:
reaper01134 wrote:First off, Children of Bodom freaking rock socks off. Listen to Hate Me! or the song called Children of Bodom. Both are great melodic metal songs.

No one has mentioned Unearth as far as I have read and they also rock socks off. Listen to Giles! It is very awesome. The Chariot are pretty good too and have the lead singer from Norma Jean. As for Slayer, listen to Disciple and Threshold. Both extremely good songs to rock out too. Cannibal Corpse is freaking god-like as well and if you have not listened to Hammer Smashed Face, do so immediately, with all haste. The Black Dahlia Murder is pretty good sometimes too and Killswitch Engage is one of my favorite bands ever. Their cover of Holy Diver is so sick.
Um, no not really. First, Unearth, and Killswitch are metalcore, so wrong thread. And CoB are really not that spectacular... there is a lot of better metal out there.


My bad for listing a couple metalcore bands. They're still good and metalcore is close enough to death metal to be mentioned.
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Re: Death Metal

Postby Oflick » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:06 am UTC

reaper01134 wrote:My bad for listing a couple metalcore bands. They're still good and metalcore is close enough to death metal to be mentioned.


Metalcore really isn't close to death metal, unless you're thinking of deathcore.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Cathode Ray Sunshine » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:17 pm UTC

I distrust any musical genre that ends with -core.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Aethernox » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:16 pm UTC

Cathode Ray Sunshine wrote:I distrust any musical genre that ends with -core.


Seconded.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby TheAmazingRando » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:12 pm UTC

Metalcore: it isn't all bad. See Converge and Botch.
Grindcore can be good too, see Pig Destroyer, especially Terrifyer and Prowler in the Yard.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Stabologist » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:07 am UTC

Great to see some death metal fans on XKCD.

Right now my absolute favorite death band is probably Gorod, specifically the album "Leading Vision". Excellent tech death band, I would recommend them to any fans of the genre.

The whole album is great, but my favorite track is "Blackout" Link

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Re: Death Metal

Postby Midnight » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:24 am UTC

i'm pretty down with whitechapel right now.
uhhhh fuck.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:33 am UTC

Gorod is awesome. Just got into their stuff, pretty damn good.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby SpaceBeans » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:48 am UTC

Various metal related bands. Not all purely "death metal."

Between the Buried and Me
Botch
The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza
Job for a Cowboy (old stuff is superior)
The Acacia Strain
Amon Amarth
Bloodbath
Deadlock
The Faceless
Electric Wizard
Gojira
Meshuggah
Misery Signals
Miseration
Scar Symmetry
Soilwork
Soulfly
Whourkr

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Re: Death Metal

Postby sio » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:54 pm UTC

Listening to some of The Crown. They're not great, but are decent if you just want something on in the background while doing something else.

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Re: Death Metal

Postby novax6 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:40 am UTC

sio wrote:Listening to some of The Crown. They're not great, but are decent if you just want something on in the background while doing something else.


woah woah woah, The Crown is fantastic. Especially Deathrace King. If that album doesn't get your blood racing and your head banging, then I'm not sure what will. Sadly Possessed 13 was only ok they broke up soon after.


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