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Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:48 am UTC
by Ian Ex Machina
I usually try to read books in one sitting, but with really big or complex books its a page number if I'm not too tired or a bookmark.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:34 am UTC
by someguy
Mostly bookmarks, though I've dog-eared a few books of my own on occasion. Also paper clips, but they tend to crinkle the pages and books take up more space with them in place.

Edit: On a few textbooks I didn't care about, I made small horizontal cuts near the top corners of pages and then folded them up 90 degrees, so they stuck up like little strips of paper attached to particular pages (sorry about the slightly convoluted description - ESL).

Also, 'bookmarks' = anything at hand, including but not limited to TP.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:46 am UTC
by phlip
I usually use bookmarks (real ones if I have any handy, scraps of paper for the much more common case)... but I do have a book of quotes that I've dogeared all the good ones... there's just too many of them, I'd run out of scraps of paper.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:56 am UTC
by tiny
Though I like my books to look read, I can't stand dog ears.
A 3cm paperclip works fine for me. I put it around some 5+ pages (the one I'm at is the last) and push in the next when I turn a page.
Bookmarks tend to slip out, especially when you read a paperback for the first time, and the ones with the hooks stand out over the pages, which annoys me.
When I was little, my favourite bookmark had a new pair of salmon colored pointe shoes on old wooden tiles on it :D

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:04 pm UTC
by EdgarJPublius
scowdich wrote:I have a tin of these nifty little brass clips that go on the edge of the page - "Book Darts". So, yeah, bookmarks all the way. Even if I don't have a clip handy, I'll just put some random scrap of paper in there. I figure, reading a paperback deteriorates it a bit already; why contribute the the problem by mauling specific pages?


Book darts are the singe greatest invention since paper, I carry a bunch of them in my wallet at all times.

Before I discovered the book dart I used whatever scrap of paper came to hand, there were a few times I lost my place do to my bookmark being a large denomination bill

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:02 pm UTC
by Aleril
Dog ears are a disgrace to books!

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:46 am UTC
by The Mighty Thesaurus
I just guess which page I was on and read from there. It hasn't failed me yet.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:02 am UTC
by Prole
All my books are dogeared, worn and battered.

Just what i'v always done, dont see whats wrong with it really,

unless its a book borrowed from a friend.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:05 am UTC
by Robin S
Am I the only one who memorizes page numbers? It's not that hard, only a few digits.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:46 pm UTC
by LE4dGOLEM
Leave the book open at the page, face down.

Or remember the page.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:36 pm UTC
by xndrew
I use anything I find as a bookmark, because I usually read on trains, I've often used ticket stubs.

I dog-ear pages that have something that I want to remember, revisit, or be able to flip to if I want to show someone just how bad-ass the book I'm reading is.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:20 pm UTC
by Aleril
I usually create a bookmark by:

1. Horizontal fold
2. Vertical fold
3. Horizontal fold

from regular lined paper. Works perfectly.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:19 am UTC
by nevskey1
I usually just tear off the corner of the last page I read and use that as a bookmark.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:21 am UTC
by Aleril
nevskey1 wrote:I usually just tear off the corner of the last page I read and use that as a bookmark.


Image Thats just... terrible! Thats book abuse!

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:25 am UTC
by nevskey1
Aleril wrote:
nevskey1 wrote:I usually just tear off the corner of the last page I read and use that as a bookmark.


Image Thats just... terrible! Thats book abuse!


Yeah, well you haven't heard my side. The late nights, the tension headaches, the ferver over breakfast, making me late for work. It's unbearable. We're seeing a librarian, but I'm thinking of calling in the authorities. I hear Mr. Bookman's good, though he charges a lot.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:51 pm UTC
by ishikiri
I usually try to remember where i got to/page number.

This doesn't work with LOTR 2 though. You can jump a hundred pages with that book and not miss anything.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:36 am UTC
by Torvaun
Memorize, when needed. Generally I go with the several hour book bender. Name of the Wind in one session. Ditto for at least a couple Wheel of Time books. When I'm reading, and I have a need to set the book down for what seems to be a short period, I go with the impromptu bookmark. This can consist of anything from scraps of paper, to pens, to staplers.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:22 pm UTC
by Rodan
Aleril wrote:
nevskey1 wrote:I usually just tear off the corner of the last page I read and use that as a bookmark.


Image Thats just... terrible! Thats book abuse!

Image

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:39 am UTC
by Unakau
I do neither. I remember what page I was on or search for where I was at.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:35 am UTC
by Pebbles
dog ears for convienience if they are my books. Ive lost so many bookmarks. But then, dog ears dont seem so much like desecration when Im also writting in the margins and underlining passages I like.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:59 pm UTC
by LE4dGOLEM
Torvaun wrote: in one session. Ditto for at least a couple Wheel of Time books.


This man is the master of patience.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:15 pm UTC
by MotorToad
A book is a box of information, I don't treat it any better than another box full of stuff. So long as its useful as a book I could care less if it's pretty. A paperback MUST have the spine crinkled for me to even start reading it. I sometimes use a bookmark if there's something around, but I hate keeping them when I'm reading so I usually drop them somewhere and dog-ear it.

When I hear someone complain about book abuse, I'm reminded of someone who thinks a church is where his god lives.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:00 pm UTC
by tessuraea
Freyja wrote:Honestly, neither. I actually remember what page I leave off at. I always lose bookmarks and my mom used to yell at me for folding down the corners of pages, so I just started to remember page numbers.


Me too.

I don't consciously remember the page number most of the time, I just have a knack for picking up the book and quickly finding whichever page I left off at. It's easier with more familiar books.

When I do need a bookmark--like for a textbook or something--I use whatever I have lying around. Money, receipts, whatever. It's meant to be temporary.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:06 pm UTC
by pKp
Dog-ears are for real men.
I would like to do this memorizing thingy, but I typically read 3+ books at a time, so...unpractical.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:38 am UTC
by Torvaun
LE4dGOLEM wrote:
Torvaun wrote: in one session. Ditto for at least a couple Wheel of Time books.


This man is the master of patience.

I didn't mean that I did two Wheel of Time books in a single session. More that on two separate occasions, I sat down with a Wheel of Time book, and didn't stop until I reached the back cover. Also, I read at a rate that has been called "incredibly fast" and "astounding". Best number I could give the rate would be approximately 100 pages/hour for cohesive material.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:25 am UTC
by Asleep or Wrong
I'm kinda pleased to see there are other people who just find their place from memory.

I borrow books from libraries a bunch so dog ears are unacceptable. Bookmarks are too much of a hassle.
Ribbons attached to books are nice, and I'll use those where they exist.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:52 pm UTC
by Simius
I refrained from voting, because I use neither. I've never had any problem remembering where I left off. I always lose bookmarks and just don't like dog-earing.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:04 pm UTC
by Cassi
pKp wrote:Dog-ears are for real men.
I would like to do this memorizing thingy, but I typically read 3+ books at a time, so...unpractical.


I fairly often am reading several books that are not dog-earable, and manage to remember the pages just fine... ::shrugs::

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:08 pm UTC
by Tisiphone
As long as I own the book I dog ear it. I take a lot of comfort in how used the things I care about are. I would prefer things like books, sweatshirts, teddybears, etc. be incredibly worn rather than pristine. Reading a book that has been worn from reading is way better for me than reading a new book from the store. Though this doesn't transfer to things like CDs, bras, people, etc. :)

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:45 pm UTC
by aaron
I use bookmarks in the sense that it's just little random crap that I find around the house. Post-its, cds, postcards, whatever. If it keeps my place, I'm happy. :)

I dog-eared a book once. I'm kind of an OCD freak about keeping my books clean and tatter-free so it freaked me out. I immediately uncreased it and found a bookmark.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:10 am UTC
by Cytoplasm
I use some type of bookmark (though it may not be anything like the typical bookmark. Anywho..sometimes I used to dogear my books..though I have trouble doing so..I feel like I'm hurting the pages or something..iunno..

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:42 am UTC
by a386
i had book darts for a while and they ruined my books! maybe they're better now but they dug into the pages on the side and made these little rips. i'm more comfortable with the impromptu bookmark anyway .. it's funny, i never ever dog ear and it bothers me when people do, yet i constantly leave books belly-down and open. apparently that's the worst thing for the spine, and some of my friends wince when i do it. doesn't bother me though. *shrug*

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:23 am UTC
by parkaboy
i'll dog ear if i cant find anything to stick in a book, but usually i'll tear up something to have a bookmark first.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:34 am UTC
by Cytoplasm
Wait! This is supposed to be epic!

<insert something really epic about books and how to take care of them because they're precious, etc.>

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:48 pm UTC
by Number3Pencils
Best bookmarks, starting at the best and going down the list of contingencies:
dust jacket flap
Post-It note
leaf

But, I haven't tried book darts; they might fit in somewhere.

Edit: Oooh, I looked them up and I think they're going on my Christmas list.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:01 pm UTC
by jynjin
I'm half disgusted by these dog earing people. Then again, some might call me strange to use a strand of hair if I cannot find a bit of paper anywhere.

I make my own bookmarks, btw. I think it makes me a little more careful about losing tiny scraps of my artistry.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:09 pm UTC
by SomethingWitty
Dog ears?? *twitch* you're disrespecting your books! Treat them with the love and care they deserve. I use bookmarks sometimes, but usually I just remember where I was.

My soul still aches at the thought of those poor, innocent books. The horror

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:44 am UTC
by JayDee
EdgarJPublius wrote:Before I discovered the book dart I used whatever scrap of paper came to hand, there were a few times I lost my place do to my bookmark being a large denomination bill

I've started to use money as bookmarks, but it's working the other way round for me - since I read more than one book at a time, I forget what I've started, and then when I need money I can search through the pile of books by my bed. Closest I've come to saving.

Torvaun wrote:I didn't mean that I did two Wheel of Time books in a single session. More that on two separate occasions, I sat down with a Wheel of Time book, and didn't stop until I reached the back cover. Also, I read at a rate that has been called "incredibly fast" and "astounding". Best number I could give the rate would be approximately 100 pages/hour for cohesive material.

Me too! I feel like less of a freak now.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:27 am UTC
by OmenPigeon
Number3Pencils wrote:Best bookmarks, starting at the best and going down the list of contingencies:
dust jacket flap
Post-It note
leaf

My God, man. Have you suffered head trauma recently? Severe electric shock? PTSD? You couldn't be more wrong about this.

Dust jacket flaps are a terrible way to keep a bookmark. They require you to keep the dust jacket on, which is always a terrible idea. Dust jackets, in my experience, have absurdly low friction on the insides, making the book constantly slip down into your lap as you read it, until you're left clutching vainly at the author blurb. And what do you have to have to have a dust jacket? A hardcover book. Any book that can't be bent until it fits in my back pocket is probably not worth reading. Also, the dust jacket is never really long enough to serve as a bookmark in the middle, so it always seems to slip out and make me spend fifteen minutes looking for my place. Terrible, terrible things to be avoided at all cost.

Post-It notes are kind of okay, but they don't really do it for me. Their main feature is that they stick to paper without ruining it, but a bookmark moves around, so it's not like you'll actually be sticking the note to a page and and writing on it. The aspect ratio of Post-It notes is all wrong for a bookmark, too. Squares? Whats up with that? These are better than dust jackets, but certainly not the second-best way to bookmark.

Leaves I actually haven't tried personally. They seem like they might be pretty good, though. I'm not much of a tree person, so I don't know how leaves will degrade being off a tree for a long time, but green leaves are pretty supple and strong. If they stay like that, a nice beech or something could make a good bookmark. I worry that without a straight edge they won't stick well in the binding, and fall out. Perhaps tearing one in half would work.

The best, though, is the train ticket stub. I almost never leave for a train trip without a new novel in my pocket. The ticket stub makes an excellent bookmark, having a fine aspect ratio and great strength. They also have the date printed on them, which is fantastic. I like to leave a bookmark behind with a book when I'm done with it, and when I use a train stub I get to have the date I first read the book printed on it, which is really nice. Memories and whatnot. This also works with movie tickets and other such things, though they're usually too small to be really good.

Playing cards (from a deck thats already lost a few, of course) make a decent bookmark. Bridge size, though, not poker, and the skinnier ones that don't have a quarter inch of weird coating on them.

A 1.5 x 35 index card is useful in a pinch. My Latin teachers used to tell me to use them to make vocab flashcards, but I never did, and they come in boxes of 300 or so, so I've got tons of these lying around.

Re: the most epic book debate ever conceived

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:28 pm UTC
by Torvaun
JayDee wrote:
Torvaun wrote:I didn't mean that I did two Wheel of Time books in a single session. More that on two separate occasions, I sat down with a Wheel of Time book, and didn't stop until I reached the back cover. Also, I read at a rate that has been called "incredibly fast" and "astounding". Best number I could give the rate would be approximately 100 pages/hour for cohesive material.

Me too! I feel like less of a freak now.

You're like me. That makes you more of a freak.