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Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Altercator » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:45 am UTC

Ray Kurzweil & Asimov aside, any good books I should read about robotics, & artificial intelligence, please?

Websites would also help.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby waltwhitmanheadedbat » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:29 am UTC

See the following:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=27315&p=906374&hilit=textbooktorrents&sid=b5f4162fa5bbde2a3aa3b64a8a8285a3#p906374

Ignore the part about textbooktorrents, it's defunct.

Edit: but bitme and bitspyder still exist. Not that I have access to either.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Nath » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:52 am UTC

Are you looking for technical books, or mainstream stuff? If the former, you may want to post this in the CS forum. There are a few I could recommend.

If the latter, the Space Odyssey stuff was the most interesting AI-related fiction I've read after Asimov. I haven't gotten a whole lot out of popular non-fiction AI books (though to be fair, I haven't read very many).

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Altercator » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:07 am UTC

Are you looking for technical books, or mainstream stuff?


Both, as long as they can help me understand what robots are all about.

The reference book thread is fine, but a bit too general for covering specifically AI & robots.

I'm planning to write a book about robots someday, and I need a head start in researching them.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Nath » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:04 am UTC

Most present day robotics stuff deals with problems like how to avoid walking into walls, and how to get from point A to point B. Interesting stuff, but very far removed from Asimov-style robots. This is a good book on robotics.

(Asimov, incidentally, had an annoying habit of equating robotics with AI. Two different problems. AI is about creating thinking machines, robotic or otherwise. Robotics is about creating machines -- thinking or otherwise -- that can physically interact with their environments.)

For AI, this is the standard textbook. It'll give you a feel for what sort of problems AI researchers work on. It doesn't quite describe the state of the art, but it'll give you enough background to understand most current AI papers.

If there's some particular aspect of AI or robotics you're curious about, I could point you to more specific resources.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby bigglesworth » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:31 pm UTC

Are you also interested in fiction about AI and robots?
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Altercator » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:39 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Are you also interested in fiction about AI and robots?


If they can help, yeah. Do you have anything great in mind?

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby odenskrigare » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:18 am UTC

I can't believe no one mentioned the Norvig text. It's a little too verbose sometimes, but lucid no doubt.

http://aima.cs.berkeley.edu/

And the Tanimoto text, Elements of Artificial Intelligence Using Common LISP is old, but good.

The Nilsson text is supposed to be good, but I never looked at it.

In fact, you can get a pretty comprehensive list here:

http://aima.cs.berkeley.edu/books.html

And then you have the free books. I'll bet most of them are on one or both of these sites:

http://freecomputerbooks.com/compscLogicBooks.html
http://www.freetechbooks.com/artificial ... e-f55.html

wrt fiction, what seems like the most likely depiction of an AI overlord is the Hobbesian-to-the-core 'Colossus' in the book of the same name.
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Nath » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:34 am UTC

odenskrigare wrote:I can't believe no one mentioned the Norvig text.

Scroll up a little.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby odenskrigare » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:45 am UTC

Word.

Kudos to me for everything else though. :lol:
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby ascendingPig » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:35 am UTC

Godel, Escher Bach
The Emperor's New Mind
Both kinda more philosophical and psychological than technical.
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby GabrielF » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:03 am UTC

Altercator wrote:
bigglesworth wrote:Are you also interested in fiction about AI and robots?


If they can help, yeah. Do you have anything great in mind?


The Cyberiad by Stanislaw Lem is a classic.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Surgery » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:59 pm UTC

The Probabilistic Robot book:
I may be interpreting the description wrong, but would that be a good book for someone more interested in autonomous and emergent behaviors in the virtual/software world (I think robotics is awesome, but I don't have the physical engineering chops to really pursue it)?

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Nath » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:17 am UTC

The Thrun et al. book? Probably useful, but not ideally suited. It doesn't really go into the physical engineering side of things. It's mostly about how robots figure out where they are, what's around them, and how to get to their destination, given the sort of sensors currently available to robots. If your virtual world simulated the sensors and such, then sure, you could use these techniques for localization, mapping and planning.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Altercator » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:53 am UTC

What about the psychological side of robotics? Any books on that?

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby odenskrigare » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:49 am UTC

Altercator wrote:What about the psychological side of robotics? Any books on that?


Robots have no psychology to speak of, so I assume you're referring to philosophical questions posed to us by these machines.

In any case, you might want to look under the 'Philosophy' section here:

http://aima.cs.berkeley.edu/books.html

May also be of interest:

http://www.uoregon.edu/~moursund/Books/AIBook/AI.pdf
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Altercator » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:28 pm UTC

Speaking of philosophy, any books that has robots asking "What is human?"

Thanks for the book list, btw, keep it coming.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby odenskrigare » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:48 pm UTC

Altercator wrote:Speaking of philosophy, any books that has robots asking "What is human


No, but there's something close:

http://www.trussel.com/meat.htm

(We're pretty gross when you think about it.)
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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby mdyrud » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:19 am UTC

Michael Crichton's Prey was good, I thought, but i don't know how realistic it is.

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Re: Recommended Books on Robotics & AI?

Postby Bassoon » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:32 am UTC

Well, it's not all directly involving robotics and AI, but most of Ray Bradbury's short stories and novels involve some sort of inspired form of robotics/AI.


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