manca - one syllable per word language

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manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:41 pm UTC

Phonology:

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24 letters - 19 consonants, 5 vowels, 190 syllables
a
b
c - ch
d
e
f
g
h
i
k
l
m
n
o
p
r
s
t
u
v
w
x - sh
y
z

* All names of places are borrowed from the name of it's original language
* All foreign words are treated as adjectives


Here are the 190 words of the language (all of the syllables are used):

The Consonant(s) do not mean the words them self, it's just showing you how it's categorized.

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b - body
ba - body, torso
be - heart, chest, lung, rib, feel (emotion)
bi - stomach, abdomen
bo - arm, wing
bu - hand, touch, feel (something physical)

bn - body
ban - waist, hip
ben - sexual organ (penis, vagina, testicles)
bin - butt, anus, buttock
bon - leg
bun - foot, stomp, step

c - language, people
ca - language
ce - write, draw, paint
ci - nation, country
co - letter, title, name, word
cu - culture, way of life, religion

cn - important verbs
can - want, need, desire, hope
cen - believe, think trust
cin - donate, give, send, emit, put
con - have, contain, hold, keep
cun - take, grab, get, obtain

d - locations
da - to, at, on, near
de - from, of, about, concerning, by (means of)
di - enter, in, inside, interior
do - exit, out, outside, exterior, foreign
du - far, distant, distance, away, hidden, secret (adjective)

dn - directions
dan - north, up
den - south, down
din - west, left
don - east, right
dun - middle, center

f - food pyramid
fa - bread, grain, cereal
fe - fruit, vegetable
fi - peanut, seed, nut, offspring, son or daughther
fo - milk, cheese, yogurt, dairy
fu - sugar, fat, oil

fn - business
fan - money, dollar, currency, wealth
fen - market, store
fin - buy
fon - sell
fun - save, help

g - shapes
ga - circle, shape with no side
ge - line, shape with one side
gi - angle, shape with two sides
go - triangle, shape with three sides
gu - square, shape with four sides

gn - life
gan - spirit, soul, spiritual
gen - human, person
gin - life, live, experience
gon - God, divine, holy sacred
gun - happen, event, effect, drama, news

h - family
ha - parent, parental
he - sibling (brother, sister)
hi - friend, ally
ho - family, home, nest, den, place of living
hu - city, town, village, area of living

hn - other
han - sex, fuck, eroctic, sexuality, sexual, sexy
hen - pause, stay, remain, permanent, stop, quit
hin - move, travel, go, transport, mobile
hon - sound, noise, voice, play (instrument), music
hun - dirt, filth, dirty, garbage, pollute, waste, fece, urine

k - parts of speech
ka - ask, request, what, which, question particle (if at the end of a sentence)
ke - because
ki - since, cause, reason, origin, genesis, start, begining, become
ko - but, however
ku - still, yet, only

kn - temperature
kan - temperature, cook, degree (Celsius)
ken - cold, cool, chill
kin - warm
kon - freeze, frozen
kun - burn, melt, hot

l - important
la - existance, being, a performer of a verb (if used as suffix)
le - thing, substance, object
li - place, area, location
lo - tool, device, machine, computer
lu - betray, rebel, against, opposite of word (if used as prefix)

ln - matter
lan - semisolid, paste, gum, powder
len - gas, air, wind, breeze
lin - liquid, water, sauce
lon - solid, rock, stone
lun - heavy, weigh

m - pronouns
ma - I, me
me - you, your
mi - he, she, it, his, her, its
mo - this
mu - that

mn - astrology
man - planet, world
men - outerspace, heaven, sky
min - star, sun
mon - astroid, meteor, any small heavenly body
mun - moon, satellite

n - quantities
na - none, zero, no, not
ne - few, little, bit
ni - some, plural
no - many, much, a lot, very
nu - all, every, each, universe, everything, universal

nn - clothing and accessories
nan - accessory, decoration, season (for food)
nen - cloth, cover (for a bed), fabric, wear (put on)
nin - shirt, coat, jacket, hood, clothing for body
non - gloves, socks, sneakers, shoes, clothing for feet or hands
nun - pants, shorts, underwear, clothing for lower body

p - verbs
pa - make, work, build, create, activate, active, on
pe - understand, know, science, study, learn, logic
pi - hit, attack, fight, battle
po - can, able to, may, allow, legal, possible
pu - change, edit, different, strange, crazy

pn - other
pan - energy, power, strength, sure, confidence, intense, energize, empower, charge (with energy), to load
pen - rule, control, use, main, important, lead, law
pin - hole, opening, portal, orifice
pon - group, community, society, social, network, company
pun - bad, rotten, spoil, ruin, worsen, wrong, evil, sick, disease, sickiness, difficult, complex

r - adjectives
ra - male
re - pretty
ri - ok, good, peace, healthy, fix, repair, heal, easy
ro - big, huge
ru - nice, kind

rn - occasions
ran - second, moment
ren - usually, daily
rin - sometimes
ron - rarely, seldom
run - always, eternal, forever

s - moments in time
sa - present, now, modern, is, am, to be
se - imperative, please
si - past, previous, before
so - future, after, then, next
su - would, if

sn - flavors
san - sweet, sugar
sen - spicy
sin - salty, salt
son - bitter, nasty
sun - sour

t - math operations
ta - add, plus, also, and, with
te - multiply, reproduce
ti - subtract, minus, delete, kill
to - divide, cut, slice, part, piece, fraction, element, particle
tu - in the power of

tn - animals
tan - land creature, mammal
ten - amphibian
tin - insect, roach
ton - bird, winged animal
tun - fish, sea creature

v - colors
va - white, light, daytime
ve - black, dark, shadow, night
vi - yellow
vo - red
vu - green, blue

vn - Earth
van - cave, valley, underground
ven - herb, medicine, grass, plant, leaf
vin - hill, mountain, button
von - wood, tree
vun - ground, soil, dirt, sand, Earth

w - numbers
wa - one
we - two
wi - three
wo - four
wu - five

wn - numbers
wan - six
wen - seven
win - eight
won - nine
wun - ten

x - body
xa - hair
xe - nail (of a hand), claw (of a paw), teeth, chew, bite, scratch
xi - eye, see, view, read
xo - ear, hear, listen
xu - nose, smell

xn - body (lower)
xan - mouth, lip, talk, speak, say
xen - tongue, tonsil, lick, taste
xin - throat, neck, swallow, eat, consume
xon - head, face
xun - brain, mind, intelligence, smart

y - numbers
ya - 100, hundred, 10^2
ye- 1000, thousand, 10^3
yi - 10000, ten thousand, 10^4
yo - 100000, hundred thousand, 10^5
yu - 1000000, million, 10^6

yn - numbers
yan - 10000000, ten million, 10^7
yen - 100000000, hundred million, 10^8
yin - 1000000000, billion, 10^9
yon - 10000000000, ten billion, 10^10
yun - 100000000000, hundred billion, 10^11

z - emotions
za - happy, content, joyful
ze - thankful, love, appreciate, care for
zi - angry, mad, crazy
zo - fear, hate, scared
zu - sad, sorry, regret

zn - time
zan- minute
zen - month
zin - year
zon - day
zun - hour


If your name is Mary just put the word for person "gen" after and phonetically spell it with manca phonetics: marigen (mary-person)

numbers word like chinese

wa - 1
we - 2
wi - 3
wun - 10
ya - 100
ye - 1000

we wun - 20
we wun wa - 21
we wun we - 22
we wun wi - 23
we ya - 200
we ya wi - 203
we ya we wun - 220
we ya we wun we - 222

To Infinity:

The highest number in this language is this one (for a higher number say 'run (infinite)'):

yun tu yun: 10^11(10^11) - The sum of 10^11 in the power of the sum of 10^11

Months

January (first month): zenwa (month one)
February (second month): zenwe (month 2)

Days Of The Week:

Sunday (First Day) - zonwa (day one)
Monday (Second Day) - zonwe (day two)
Saturday (Seventh Day) - zonwen (day seven)

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:16 pm UTC

So, umm... It seems to me that your "words" are really more like morphemes. Doesn't Chinese already work like this?
Nothing rhymes with orange,
Not even sporange.

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby Roĝer » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:00 pm UTC

So how do you say in this language 'I am a member of a forum full of language obsessed people'?
Ik ben niet koppig, ik heb gewoon gelijk.

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:32 am UTC

Roĝer wrote:So how do you say in this language 'I am a member of a forum full of language obsessed people'?


ma sapon gen de lomanpon de cacangen. (Of Course, spaces aren't needed)

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby gmalivuk » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:53 am UTC

And now, how many other things can that that mean? How would you distinguish between a computer and other tools or devices that "lo" can mean?
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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby Apeiron » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:23 pm UTC

i like this as a thought experiment. i'd like to see how far you can push it. Do you have a site for this?

You'll hit a wall, i think, when you run out of one syllable permutations. It might also have the same issues as Ro.

i suggest placing the letters that change closer to the front. Where they will stand out.

ab
ad
ag
aj
ak

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby skellious » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:58 am UTC

ma ze 'manca', ko le lupari si nono co pase.

That is my attempt at saying, roughly, that "I love 'manca', but it won't work well before many many more words are developed."

I realise the base idea and I quite like it but until it has been matured by use standardised agglutinative forms are not present and, as we all know, this will lead to much confusion. In addition, so far we have no guidance for grammar, sentance order and other important knowledge.

Finally, this language would appear to trend rather close to English in pronounciation. This may alienate those who do not use English.


However as a test of Sapir-Whorf I like it.

Edit: Please do keep us updated on this, I've often explored similar ideas myself.
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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby Asleep or Wrong » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:12 am UTC

the proliferation of minimalistic conlangs is p. bizarre to watch.

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby skellious » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:17 am UTC

Asleep or Wrong wrote:the proliferation of minimalistic conlangs is p. bizarre to watch.


Yes but quite enjoyable to play with. -draw unintended double entendre from that statement at your peril.
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