## Cipher Problem

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Scallel
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### Cipher Problem

Over on the minecraft forums we have a vengeful god, TheMonkey1000, who was kind enough to give us a lovely little puzzle. Its apparently a cipher problem, that I am unable to solve. So here it is:

HLFGS
HZGVOORGV
WRHS
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tomtom2357
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### Re: Cipher Problem

I would guess that H is some common letter that appears at the beginning of words (ex. e, t, or a) then try to work from there. Try some things with that, and see if it works.
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### Re: Cipher Problem

Scallel wrote:Over on the minecraft forums we have a vengeful god, TheMonkey1000, who was kind enough to give us a lovely little puzzle. Its apparently a cipher problem, that I am unable to solve. So here it is:

HLFGS
HZGVOORGV
WRHS

There are autosolvers for this class of problems.

Spoiler:
SOUTH SATELLITE WISH
SOUTH SATELLITE FISH
SOUTH SATELLITE DISH
SOUTH SATELLITE KISH
SOUTH SATELLITE PISH

Dunno if the actual answer is in that list, but perhaps no. 3?
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Scallel
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### Re: Cipher Problem

South Satellite Dish was indeed correct and proved to be useful. Ready for the next piece?

Jydm d j[[g
m[[;
j['thu
j[ypjku
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jestingrabbit
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### Re: Cipher Problem

Spoiler:
Sail i soon look sorted soapsud
Sail i soon loom sorted soapsud
Sail i soon look sorbed soapsud
Sail i soon loom sorbed soapsud
Sail i soon loom socked soapsud
Sail i soot look sorbed soapsud
Clad a coop door convey colicky
Sail i soot loom sorbed soapsud
Sail i soot loom socked soapsud
Clad a coot door convey colicky

maybe one of these, the first few look promising. Anyway, try http://www.blisstonia.com/software/WebD ... /index.php with letters in the place of symbols.
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tomtom2357
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### Re: Cipher Problem

The problem with that website is that it won't always have the right answer, I tried a few coded sentences and it did not come up with the right answer.
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Trebla
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### Re: Cipher Problem

tomtom2357 wrote:The problem with that website is that it won't always have the right answer, I tried a few coded sentences and it did not come up with the right answer.

It quite likely doesn't have many proper names (such as places that may be present in minecraft). It also may assume that there's no punctuation substitution, the presence of punctuation characters in the encoded version may lead one to believe that here is punctuation encoded. Try guessing where punctuation may be and drop a letter or two.

The format of the second puzzle (assuming it's a straight cryptogram) makes it unclear if the top line is one word and the spaces are substitutes for a letter, or if the top line is 3 words.

Also, it appears the linked site is only a substitution cryptogram solver and doesn't attempt to detect other encryption methods. The puzzles appear to be straight substitution cyphers, though, so you're probably safe with it.

Jokertyf
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### Re: Cipher Problem

Guys, it's
Spoiler:
grab a good book goleft goright

you move the characters two to the left