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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:47 am UTC
by sardia
Has anyone ordered raw oysters from a really cheap hole in the wall restaurant away from the ocean(like midwest or far away from the coasts)? I've seen them offered before, and even seen people eating them, usually with hot sauce. Is it safe? Would you do it? I love raw oysters, and it would be nice to get them from a non-luxury expensive restaurant.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:41 am UTC
by Quercus
poxic wrote:Good luck with it. In my experience actually eating fresh mint involves more chlorophyll taste than I'd prefer.

I already know that I love eating fresh mint leaves (to the point that I will graze upon friends' cocktail garnishes), so unless the chocolate makes that worse I think I'll be good.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:58 am UTC
by Moo
Saw a thing the other day where they made chocolate leave decoratios by painting one side a mint leaf with melted choc and left it to set, then peeled away the leaf. You could experiment with that or with dipping a whole leaf in choc?

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:07 pm UTC
by Quercus
Moo wrote:Saw a thing the other day where they made chocolate leave decoratios by painting one side a mint leaf with melted choc and left it to set, then peeled away the leaf. You could experiment with that or with dipping a whole leaf in choc?


That's a great idea! My current level of togetherness is more "grab square of chocolate, grab mint leaf, shove both of them in my mouth, chew", but when I have the time and energy to be a bit more fancy I'll definitely experiment with that.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:44 pm UTC
by Zohar
sardia wrote:Has anyone ordered raw oysters from a really cheap hole in the wall restaurant away from the ocean(like midwest or far away from the coasts)? I've seen them offered before, and even seen people eating them, usually with hot sauce. Is it safe? Would you do it? I love raw oysters, and it would be nice to get them from a non-luxury expensive restaurant.

I've heard it said that because CO is far from both coasts, they both compete on its market, and you can actually get decent, reasonably priced seafood here. I haven't tried it myself.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:56 pm UTC
by Thesh
I worked at a grocery store in California and I will never by fresh seafood from a grocery store just because of how not-fresh it was. Despite how close we were to the ocean, it tended to arrive several days after the date on the box, and then sit in the display case for a week. I think it's probably best to make sure wherever you eat raw seafood that it's somewhere busy so it's less likely its been sitting around for days.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:38 pm UTC
by freezeblade
Thesh wrote:I worked at a grocery store in California and I will never by fresh seafood from a grocery store just because of how not-fresh it was. Despite how close we were to the ocean, it tended to arrive several days after the date on the box, and then sit in the display case for a week. I think it's probably best to make sure wherever you eat raw seafood that it's somewhere busy so it's less likely its been sitting around for days.


+1 on this. I won't buy seafood (or some meats) in standard "grocery stores" like Ralph's, Albertsons, Vons, etc. for this reason. I stick to places that I feel confident to the freshness, such as a fishmonger, or specific butcher shop (there are some local grocery stores that I trust as well, such as Berkeley Bowl)

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:34 am UTC
by dubsola
Chocolate orange and choc mint are both mostly wack. But I do seem to recall the Lindt mint flavour being ok. It's been a while. I'd never choose it willingly, but if someone else bought some I'll give it a go.

I also never buy fish or meat from the supermarket. I'd rather make something without either if I don't have a fishmonger or butcher as an option.

Ok I have a new one. Sorbet. Honestly, I actually like the taste of sorbet but the icecream is right there! If someone is doing a fancy dinner and there's sorbet as a palate cleanser, sure, great, thanks, but at the shops or the gelateria I'm not going to PAY for a sorbet if I get to choose between that or delicious icecream. Sorry sorbet but I'm never going to choose you.

Having said that if I were dairy free I would be glad that sorbet exists.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:16 pm UTC
by Zohar
I've asked specifically for a sorbet a few times when ice cream was available. I can see this happening if I've had a large meal and want something light, or if the ice cream flavors aren't very exciting compared to the sorbet.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:34 am UTC
by pogrmman
Peanuts are terrible — I really hate them. I don’t even know why — I’ve always been open to trying new foods and I love all sorts of funky stuff most people don’t. But something about the peanut taste just doesn’t jive with me. I hate anything with peanuts — peanut butter, peanut sauces (like in Thai food), the nuts themselves. Nothing is more disappointing than biting into something and tasting peanut.

Pecans, on the other hand, are wonderful! Maybe it’s because I grew up in and live in a place with ton of pecan trees, but I can’t get enough of them. They’re rich, sweet, buttery, and just all around tasty. I could easily eat a pound in one sitting (and have on several occasions...). They’re good raw, roasted, plain, in stuff, anywhere. I wish they were used as frequently as peanuts are :p

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:17 pm UTC
by Mikeski
pogrmman wrote:Peanuts are terrible [...] I hate anything with peanuts — peanut butter, peanut sauces (like in Thai food), the nuts themselves. Nothing is more disappointing than biting into something and tasting peanut.

I rate this opinion as "semi-controversial".

Hating peanut butter is a bit odd. (I dislike it as a sandwich spread, but I like peanut-butter cookies, or candy that contains it.)

Hating plain peanuts is totally normal. Planter's "deluxe mixed nuts" are "deluxe" because they contain no peanuts. The non-deluxe version says "less than 50% peanuts", which I read as "contents: 51% nuts, 49% failure".

Salted-in-the-shell is the only acceptable way to eat plain peanuts. At a baseball game, or at a bar, or at those "roadhouse"-type steak restaurants. And then, they're still just a mostly-tasteless substrate for the salt.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:50 pm UTC
by poxic
I buy cheap bags of peanuts in the shell for the local crows. They love them some peanuts.

Of course, they love anything high in calories, but still.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:47 pm UTC
by Angua
Salted in the shell peanuts are disgusting.

I quite like raw peanuts though. And the flavoured ones you get these days are pretty good. But I am a peanut fan in general.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 pm UTC
by PAstrychef
Since peanuts are legumes they cost a fraction of what it takes to grow pecans, which is why they are so much more prevalent.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:07 pm UTC
by AngrySquirrel
Mint should also be kept far away from chocolate.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:19 pm UTC
by New User
Why do they put salt on the peanut shells? The shell is discarded and what is inside the shell is eaten. If you want salt on your peanuts, shouldn't it be applied to the peanuts instead of the part that's discarded? That just discards the salt as well.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:20 pm UTC
by pogrmman
PAstrychef wrote:Since peanuts are legumes they cost a fraction of what it takes to grow pecans, which is why they are so much more prevalent.

Of course. Then there’s also the fact that US pecan growers have created a market for themselves in China in the past decade: in 2005, less than 3% of the pecan crop was exported to China, but now something like 30% of the total crop is. It’s not like acreage has grown very much in the US, so that’s just raised prices here :/

Many of the orchards around here were originally just wild pecan groves that get managed. Some have been topworked to improved varieties, but others haven’t.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:03 pm UTC
by Angua
New User wrote:Why do they put salt on the peanut shells? The shell is discarded and what is inside the shell is eaten. If you want salt on your peanuts, shouldn't it be applied to the peanuts instead of the part that's discarded? That just discards the salt as well.

I thought they soak the peanuts+shells in brine water. That's what it tasted like anyway

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:17 pm UTC
by New User
So, some of the brine is supposed to penetrate the shell?

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:11 pm UTC
by Angua
Pretty much all of it.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:37 pm UTC
by Teckmeister
I have 3.

#1. I firmly believe that pineapples belong on pizza.

#2. I like soup noodles. It's not a big deal in Asia, but I was making some soup ramen at a hostel when some French tourists saw me. They thought it was disgusting. They firmly believed that noodles should be dry, not soaked in a bowl of soup.

#3. I like adding all sorts of things to my oatmeal porridge. Sometimes boiled eggs. No big deal. Sometimes mushrooms. No big deal. But sometimes I like to add sardine fish. And that's a big deal to most people I know. They think it's too yucky.

Re: Controversial opinions about food

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:08 pm UTC
by Zohar
Soup noodles are fairly common outside of Asia as well. Chicken noodle soup, minestrone, there's lots of other examples as well, I'm sure.