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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby The Utilitarian » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:15 am UTC

Dream wrote:In a year and a half selling whisky in Edinburgh, every Scottish person pronounced it "Glenfiddie" or very close to that. "Tch" was how most foreigners pronounced it, and "ch" as in loch I never heard except from people giving Scottish pronunciation their first try.


I generally pronounce it "Tasty," a friend got my hooked on it at a highland games afterparty one year and it's been my brand of scotch ever since.

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Y'know the one drink I so rarely see people discuss these days is Port. It really seems to have declined in popularity, at least over here in Canada, I wonder why that is. I can't fathom it for the life of me, I love the stuff for dessert, or even just on its own in the evening.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Cadmus » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:40 am UTC

A friend put me onto scotch recently, and generally getting a £30 bottle in when there's a special occasion and having it last a few weekends when shared does make it a treat.

I'm still learning what it is I want from a dram. Initially I found myself on the sweeter Speyside malts, but there's something about the peatiness of Islay that makes you take it slow without it being too full-on. I will admit to coughing the first time I tried it though ;).

Of course I'm still quite new, my way of describing whiskey is still at the 'yummy, moar!' stage, l it would be nice to get some tasting in, over here there seem to be tastings every few weeks even in a small city like mine. I do also do minsatures as I'm a keen walker so some in the flask and some when you get in is helping me sample some more.

Of course when it comes to scotch pricing the sky's the limit.

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Y'know the one drink I so rarely see people discuss these days is Port. It really seems to have declined in popularity, at least over here in Canada, I wonder why that is. I can't fathom it for the life of me, I love the stuff for dessert, or even just on its own in the evening.


Just spotted this, a friend of mine can't get enough of it it's about all she drinks, I found it a bit too drinkable and felt I wasn't enjoying it properly. Getting it in the UK isn't too hard, but a more specialist shop is needed for the nice stuff (unlike say... red wine, where supermarkets often have the best selection.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby The Utilitarian » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:02 pm UTC

Cadmus wrote:Just spotted this, a friend of mine can't get enough of it it's about all she drinks, I found it a bit too drinkable and felt I wasn't enjoying it properly. Getting it in the UK isn't too hard, but a more specialist shop is needed for the nice stuff (unlike say... red wine, where supermarkets often have the best selection.


Blackberry Port is my favorite, and it's that easy drinkability that makes me like it. There are some wines i like but I need the right food flavors to go with them. For stand alone drinking Port (and its cousin, fortified wine) are perfect for me. As for availability, I do tend to have to go to the Select Liquor store. (most Liquor stores in BC are provincially run BC Liquor Stores)
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby elsupremo » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:53 pm UTC

I was recently introduced to Bakon. If you're in the Pacific Northwest in the US and are a fan of both bacon and vodka it may be worth investigating. It's been one of the stranger flavor experiences I've had recently.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby The Utilitarian » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:07 am UTC

I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a statement as well:

I love coolers. I know they have this strange image as "chick drinks" as if they're the wussy alternative to beer, but I don't care. Mike's Hard Berry is delicious and I've recently stumbled into these Mudslide in a bottle things and I swear they just disappear when I get them in my hand. Its like drinking candy.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby YourReality » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:35 am UTC

Hey, it's not wussy when coolers have more alcohol than most beer ;)

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Cadmus » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:25 am UTC

Definitely true at my local house of cocktails. One I'm fond of is a Yellow Bird, quite sweet but nowehere near as heavy as some other cocktails. I think it's the Galiano that does it.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

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YourReality wrote:Hey, it's not wussy when coolers have more alcohol than most beer ;)


This is why I drink beer with more alcohol than most coolers. I have had a 14% ABV beer 8)

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Bakemaster » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:12 pm UTC

YourReality wrote:Hey, it's not wussy when coolers have more alcohol than most beer ;)

Yes it is. And as this is the liquor thread, neither coolers nor beer have any place here.

I must get another bottle of scotch when my next paycheck comes! Dunno what, or when I'll drink it, but... It has been too long that I have been whiskyless. We did get some Hendricks to celebrate when I got hired, but it's not the same.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby YourReality » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:25 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:
YourReality wrote:Hey, it's not wussy when coolers have more alcohol than most beer ;)

Yes it is. And as this is the liquor thread, neither coolers nor beer have any place here.

I must get another bottle of scotch when my next paycheck comes! Dunno what, or when I'll drink it, but... It has been too long that I have been whiskyless. We did get some Hendricks to celebrate when I got hired, but it's not the same.

Well snooty pants both are sold at LIQUOR stores so you'll just have to live with it. Smirnoff ice is sort of my default alcohol but I really like Mike's Hard Lime. Sadly not many places sell it.

So any recommendations on a sort of middle ground vodka? Something good, maybe a notch or so above Smirnoff/Absolut but that isn't so good it's going to cost an arm and a leg? I'm not sure I want to have to try them all to find one myself....

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby the_stabbage » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:43 am UTC

Stolichnaya is pretty good. I don't know where you are but it's only $1 or so more per bottle than Smirnoff.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby The Utilitarian » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:20 am UTC

the_stabbage wrote:Stolichnaya is pretty good. I don't know where you are but it's only $1 or so more per bottle than Smirnoff.

My preferred brand of vodka for some time. Ironically, also the brand of vodka that I've been sharing with YourReality, for some time. -_^
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Postby scrovak » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:14 am UTC

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YourReality wrote:Hey, it's not wussy when coolers have more alcohol than most beer ;)

Yes it is. And as this is the liquor thread, neither coolers nor beer have any place here.

I must get another bottle of scotch when my next paycheck comes! Dunno what, or when I'll drink it, but... It has been too long that I have been whiskyless. We did get some Hendricks to celebrate when I got hired, but it's not the same.

Well snooty pants both are sold at LIQUOR stores so you'll just have to live with it. Smirnoff ice is sort of my default alcohol but I really like Mike's Hard Lime. Sadly not many places sell it.

So any recommendations on a sort of middle ground vodka? Something good, maybe a notch or so above Smirnoff/Absolut but that isn't so good it's going to cost an arm and a leg? I'm not sure I want to have to try them all to find one myself....


Depends on the U.S. state. Some beer vendors are not allowed to sell liquor, and some liquor stores can't sell beer. Although since coolers were made with liquor at one point, I'd say it's valid.

Also, Bakemaster, go for Johnny Walker, black label.

One more thing. Where does everyone stand on the interchangeability of the words scotch and whiskey?
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Bakemaster » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:05 pm UTC

Well, that's an easy one. They're not interchangeable. Scotch is whisky. :P
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Dream » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:53 am UTC

And lots of countries make very good whisky. The US, Japan, Ireland, Wales, Australia, all make totally decent whiskies. But only Scotland makes Scotch.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:18 am UTC

I have to admit to never having seen any whiskies, that I am aware, other than those made in either the U.S. or... the British isles?

Hmm, how do the Irish feel about "British isles"? Is there a safe way to refer to the group of England, Scotland, Wales and all of Ireland regardless of the company?
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Dream » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:27 am UTC

To be honest, it's anachronistically geographically correct, and politically there is a big chunk of the UK on Ireland, so it's not even that wrong politically. But no one ever referred to Ireland as "Britain", little or lesser or whatever. It's called Ireland, and that's the end of it. I suppose it's like calling Canadian things "American", then saying "hur hur, it's in North America, American is correct!" It makes people look pedantic and ignorant at the same time. I think there is no collective term simply because Ireland is obsessed with establishing it's separate identity from Britain.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Azrael » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:17 pm UTC

YourReality wrote:So any recommendations on a sort of middle ground vodka? Something good, maybe a notch or so above Smirnoff/Absolut but that isn't so good it's going to cost an arm and a leg? I'm not sure I want to have to try them all to find one myself....

Yeah, Skyy. Cheaper than Absolute, better quality. All in all though, I'd suggest re-examining your drinking habits if that the minute differences between the (non-rotgut) varieties of vodka matter (i.e. stop drinking it entirely straight).

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Postby sophyturtle » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:52 pm UTC

In vodkas, I found Pearl is pretty decent (even if their web site is obnoxious).
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby d33p » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:46 pm UTC

I've become a recent fan of Sobieski vodka. It's fairly cheap ($20US for a fifth), and doesn't smell/taste like rubbing alcohol. It's got a pleasant oiliness to it too, which I like.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Belial » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:18 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:I have to admit to never having seen any whiskies, that I am aware, other than those made in either the U.S. or... the British isles?


You've seen Canadian Whiskey, I guarantee it. Comes in a little purple bag?

Also, I think you missed the day that Az came over and we all drank Yamazaki single malt. Tasty, tasty stuff.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby the_stabbage » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:27 pm UTC

Speaking of THAT Canadian whiskey, I had Crown Royal a couple drinking sessions ago. I'm not a big fan of Canadian whiskey but I could drink that stuff like water. It was pretty smooth. Tasteless, too.

It's better than Canadian Club, but if you want actual flavour, Forty Creek is the best out of the (three) Canadian whiskeys I've tried. However it may be hard to find.

How much did the Yamazaki set you back? I've seen it for a hundred bucks a bottle here.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Belial » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:31 pm UTC

the_stabbage wrote:How much did the Yamazaki set you back? I've seen it for a hundred bucks a bottle here.


I think the liquor store that carries it around here charges....60 or 70. That said, I didn't pay for it, Azrael did.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:14 pm UTC

I do not recall specifically, probably $60. And damn, that was good stuff.

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Postby hendusoone » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:39 pm UTC

Gah, which liquor store is it? I still haven't found the stuff. Maybe I'm just blind, or they've been out every time I've checked, but I've looked for it a few times in Davis and haven't seen it yet. Just sayin', that was some *delicious* whiskey, and I want more of it. I need to know where to get some after my Macallan runs out.
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Postby Matt » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:08 pm UTC

Envy my luck; i've found some pretty awesome mispriced/clearance deals around town lately:

Cesar Pisco 750ml: 21$
Pama Liqueur 750ml w/ bottle stopper gift: 13$
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Postby Belial » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:35 pm UTC

hendusoone wrote:Gah, which liquor store is it? I still haven't found the stuff. Maybe I'm just blind, or they've been out every time I've checked, but I've looked for it a few times in Davis and haven't seen it yet. Just sayin', that was some *delicious* whiskey, and I want more of it. I need to know where to get some after my Macallan runs out.


Davis is the only place I've seen it. If they still have it, it'll be in the middle of the scotch for no clear reason (they don't really seem to separate their whiskies with any great resolution, they mostly just have bourbon/rye/canadian on one side and scotch/irish/japanese on the other).

I think they may also have some older Yamazaki in that big wooden cabinet, but it's expensive like whoa.
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Postby hendusoone » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:12 pm UTC

I stopped there after work today. They had 2 bottles left. It was on the top shelf next to the scotch, just like you said.

Well, I should say that there's one bottle left now. I am also $51 closer to being broke.
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Postby Mister_Penguin » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:36 am UTC

My opinion of Bombay Sapphire has gone up quite a bit - despite not making a great gimlet, I discovered that it makes a really nice Gin and Tonic and a tasty martini.
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Postby bigglesworth » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:21 pm UTC

I'd like to use this post to promote how awesome my GF is: She obtained for me what is possibly the most pure spirit known to man. :D

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Decker » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:15 pm UTC

Anyone know a decent, cheap coffee liqueur thats not Kahlua?

I need a White Russian fix, and I'm a little broke.
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Postby rrwoods » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:29 pm UTC

Decker wrote:Anyone know a decent, cheap coffee liqueur thats not Kahlua?

I need a White Russian fix, and I'm a little broke.

I have no idea of the price, but Tia Maria might be a decent substitute?
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Postby Azrael » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:08 pm UTC

Decker wrote:Anyone know a decent, cheap coffee liqueur thats not Kahlua?

I need a White Russian fix, and I'm a little broke.

Use coffee syrup and 100 proof vodka?

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Postby Nebuduck » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:27 pm UTC

Mister_Penguin wrote:My opinion of Bombay Sapphire has gone up quite a bit - despite not making a great gimlet, I discovered that it makes a really nice Gin and Tonic and a tasty martini.


Sorry, just have to slag off BS - basically, look at the side - they've chucked every damned botanical they can find in there, and it just doesn't work. Go for something more simple and elegant - try Tanqueray for your London Dry, or Hendricks if you want something a bit more exotic.

Anyway, the main reason I'm here, now: Has anyone tried U'Luvka vodka? It looks damned good, and I'm considering investing in a bottle.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Bakemaster » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:56 am UTC

Belial wrote:You've seen Canadian Whiskey, I guarantee it.

Yes, you're right. Forgot Canada.
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Now that sounds like something I really should not have missed.

Still getting used to the fact that liquor is much cheaper in this state, in addition to being sold in drug stores and supermarkets. Sarah was talking about wanting to try some cognac today... I've had it before, but never bought it; liquor thread poll time - worth paying for Courvoisier or not? Is it the Patron of cognacs? I really don't know. Also, Hennessy. These are the only names I know.
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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:56 am UTC

The best way to find out if a bottle is worth buying is to buy a miniature and try it. Or order a glass inna bar.

I got some Hennessy XO Grand Champagne duty-free. It was pleasant, but I don't know that I liked it enough to pay that price again (about AUD160 iirc, 5 years ago). Being as I'm more of a whisky person, I hardly ever drink Cognac except inna Sidecar, so it's a bit of a waste. Well, except that it makes an awesome Sidecar.* Once my XO runs out I might get some VSOP.

I am quite fond of Armagnac, which I think has more character than the Cognacs I've tried. I haven't got around to buying any, but I sometimes order one for dessert at a restaurant. That or Calvados.


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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Azrael » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:29 pm UTC

Bakemaster wrote:Sarah was talking about wanting to try some cognac today... I've had it before, but never bought it; liquor thread poll time - worth paying for Courvoisier or not?

Martell is the only of the big four houses you should bother with, the prices for the other big names are just too inflated. And instead of bothering with them, go find Pierre Ferrand Ambre. It's worth it.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Mr. Mack » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:18 pm UTC

I've been reading this thread for months, but only recently have I gotten around to trying Plymouth gin.

To be honest, I felt let down. I think I liked it more than Gordon's, but it failed to replace my favorite, Broker's. I think Broker's is smoother and has a stronger flavor for less money.

Although I still haven't tried Tanqueray No. 10 and Boodles. So it's at least theoretically possible for Broker's to be replaced. Although it would be pretty cool if my favorite gin was only $15 a bottle.

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Re: The Liquor Thread

Postby Amarantha » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:17 pm UTC

Glenmorangie. The Quinta Ruban. Oh me yarm. That is all.


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