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Apples vs Oranges

Postby mrcheesypants » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:53 pm UTC

Ever since the debate form of "internet arguement" pacifist pussy phrase of "Well, it's like comparing apples to oranges" has been said in a feeble attempt to ease the internet debate. It's as if it's common knowledge that both fruits are of equal taste and allow different people to enjoy them differently.

These are no more than sheer LIES!

The orange is the tastiest fruit with it's natural sweetness. Not to mention that there is nothing that goes better with breakfast than a nice glass of OJ.

Any who argue that apples > oranges are wrong and should post here so that other enlightened members of the xkcd community can show you the error of your ways!
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Sparv » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:05 pm UTC

Apples > Oranges, and that's obvious.

With apples, you can make the Calvados.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Berengal » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:23 pm UTC

Oranges are tastier than apples. Apples are more convenient than oranges. Orange juice isn't as tasty as apple juice. Apples have more uses than oranges.
Apples win, but oranges are still tastier.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby tiny » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:28 pm UTC

Apples win, because oranges make me sick in a really disgusting way.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby kellsbells » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:53 pm UTC

Apples win because you can take a bite out of them and it's delicious, whereas oranges require the labor of peeling or slicing to access the yumminess within. However, I have to say I love orange juice more than apple juice, but that's another debate.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Noughmad » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:56 pm UTC

Apples ftw. Easier and better to eat, and the juice is clear and without that particles that I hate.

Edit: Should juice be considered in this war, or is it only about the kernel?
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Berengal » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:58 pm UTC

Oranges don't have kernels. They're delicious through and through.
Although I like the fact that apples have their deliciousness on the unprotected outside.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby MrHackman » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:32 pm UTC

Ease of eating:
-Apples: You can just bite straight in, and the non-edible part is at the center. 3 points
-Oranges: They must be peeled or sliced first, because the non-edible part is on the outside. 1 point
Ease of peeling
-Apples: Requires a special tool to peel, but peeling is not necessary. 3 points
-Oranges: Fingernails can peel it. 4 points
Ease of Juicing
-Apples:Pain in the ass to juice (not speaking from experience, but still). 1 points
-Orange: Easy to juice, squeeze it hard and you've got OJ. 4 points
Messiness
-Apples: Biggest problem is throwing away the core, which stays as one piece. 4 points
-Orange: The juice gets everywhere(see: ease of juicing), and the peels rarely stay in one piece. 1 points
Varieties
-Apples:Granny Smith, Golden Delicious, Fuji, the list goes on and on. 4 points
-Oranges: Only 4 varieties, but one is the Blood Orange so... 3 points
Other foods
-Apples: Cider, candy apples, apple pie. 3 points
-Oranges: Orange chicken. 2 point
Non-food uses
-Apples: Bribing Teachers, explaining space time anomalies (wormholes) 3 points
-Oranges: Peels can be used as slug repellent (ew) 1 point
Taste
Apples and Oranges: This is a matter of taste. assign any number of points from 1 to 4 that you wish.

Totals
Apples:21 points (+1-4 points for taste)
Oranges: 16 points (+1-4 points for taste)
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby markfiend » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:09 am UTC

MrHackman touches on the true answer. There are so many different types of apple, how do you pick which you are comparing to the orange?

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Irrefutable » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:16 am UTC

Apples win on variety, ease of consumption and tastyness
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby EvanED » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:38 am UTC

After looking at this thread a few times wondering what to do with it, I'm moving it to the food forum. Doesn't belong in the analytical engines section. Apologies to the mod there if it doesn't fit there. :-p

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby ParanoidDrone » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:33 pm UTC

Apples are more convenient, but oranges are tastier imo. I'd still take an orange if given a choice.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby ViKing » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:42 pm UTC

EvanED wrote:After looking at this thread a few times wondering what to do with it, I'm moving it to the food forum. Doesn't belong in the analytical engines section. Apologies to the mod there if it doesn't fit there. :-p

Except in the food forum all the sarcastic commentary the OP was trying to get across is lost and the thread is reduced to a discussion about apples and oranges.
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edit: Also, apples are clearly superior in all respects. :P
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:44 pm UTC

Based entirely on booze, I'm going to have to call it a draw:

Apple brandies are nice and all, but Grand Marnier and Cointreau (amongst the other Curacaos, Tripple Secs and even Gins), although not made *of* oranges, are flavored with them to my great delight. Winner: Oranges

But when it comes to mixing, orange juice is ... well, it has it's places in various punches, but mostly as a backup singer or filler. And don't even start with screwdrivers, that shit is nasty. Apples, however, have mulled apple cider. Enough said. Winner: Apples.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby 22/7 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:17 pm UTC

Azrael wrote:Based entirely on booze, I'm going to have to call it a draw:

Apple brandies are nice and all, but Grand Marnier and Cointreau (amongst the other Curacaos, Tripple Secs and even Gins), although not made *of* oranges, are flavored with them to my great delight. Winner: Oranges

But when it comes to mixing, orange juice is ... well, it has it's places in various punches, but mostly as a backup singer or filler. And don't even start with screwdrivers, that shit is nasty. Apples, however, have mulled apple cider. Enough said. Winner: Apples.

Simply because he based his decision on alcohol, Azrael is the clear winner and his decision is obviously infallible. Go ahead and lock this thread, please.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Nath » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:36 pm UTC

Depends on how strict you are with the definition of 'orange'. If you include Mandarins etc., then oranges win. If you limit yourself to the standard thick-skinned, flavourless, supermarket sort, then apples.

MrHackman wrote:-Oranges: Only 4 varieties...

Wuh? ...No.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

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22/7 wrote:
Azrael wrote:Based entirely on booze, I'm going to have to call it a draw:

Apple brandies are nice and all, but Grand Marnier and Cointreau (amongst the other Curacaos, Tripple Secs and even Gins), although not made *of* oranges, are flavored with them to my great delight. Winner: Oranges

But when it comes to mixing, orange juice is ... well, it has it's places in various punches, but mostly as a backup singer or filler. And don't even start with screwdrivers, that shit is nasty. Apples, however, have mulled apple cider. Enough said. Winner: Apples.

Simply because he based his decision on alcohol, Azrael is the clear winner and his decision is obviously infallible. Go ahead and lock this thread, please.


A NEW CHALLENGER APPROACHES

Azrael has failed to mention that without oranges, brass monkeys are not possible! Be it the classy brass monkey (screwdriver with spiced rum) or the collegiate brass monkey (drink a 40 down to the top of the label, fill with orange juice, swish around, enjoy! try it before you say that sounds nasty, it's one of the best drinks for the money that I know of, and believe me, I know cost-effective drinking). So in my opinion, orange juice is the winner.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby MrHackman » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:57 pm UTC

Nath wrote:Depends on how strict you are with the definition of 'orange'. If you include Mandarins etc., then oranges win. If you limit yourself to the standard thick-skinned, flavourless, supermarket sort, then apples.

MrHackman wrote:-Oranges: Only 4 varieties...

Wuh? ...No.

Okay, good point, they have more than that, but apples still have far more varieties than oranges (unless you count genetically engineered oranges, but let's not get crazy here), even if you don't limit yourself to those in the standard supermarket (even more so, if you are talking about 2 varieties that can't be told apart without genetic testing, unlike apples, where given a dozen of each at most you can see the variations).
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:49 pm UTC

BomanTheBear wrote:... it's one of the best drinks for the money that I know of, and believe me, I know cost-effective drinking...


A new challenger? Yeah, feel free to sign up in the kiddie league with junk like that. Jeeesh, talk about doing more harm for your own cause than good. Orange juice in a 40?

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby random_kitty » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:36 am UTC

Now I want a hot apple pie with a tall glass of fresh orange juice



I only like oranges in juice form, and prefer apple in hot apple pies. Apple juice is a base to many sauces though.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Matt » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:57 am UTC

Azrael wrote:A new challenger? Yeah, feel free to sign up in the kiddie league with junk like that. Jeeesh, talk about doing more harm for your own cause than good. Orange juice in a 40?


Amen. I'd rather drink kalimotxo.

I'm a big fan of citrus in general, so oranges have a bit of an edge there. I really dislike mealy apples, but I dislike seedy, pithy oranges even more.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Zohar » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:00 am UTC

It's not that complicated, people! Oranges are better fresh, apples are better when cooking!

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

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Azrael wrote:
BomanTheBear wrote:... it's one of the best drinks for the money that I know of, and believe me, I know cost-effective drinking...


A new challenger? Yeah, feel free to sign up in the kiddie league with junk like that. Jeeesh, talk about doing more harm for your own cause than good. Orange juice in a 40?

*shakes head in dismay*


Sounds to me like you've never tried it. Believe me, it's exponentially better than you'd expect. Tastes alot like slightly less carbonated, slightly less sweet orange Crush. Not a drink you'd get at a Ruth's Chris Steak House, but for house parties, it's awesome. Go give it a try. If you don't like it, feel free to get up on the hatin'. But I don't know a single person who's tried it and not been extremely surprised.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:29 pm UTC

BomanTheBear wrote:Tastes alot like slightly less carbonated, slightly less sweet orange Crush.


Still not helping your case. But here's a fun "fact": People who don't need to gussy up the cheapest, shittiest alcohol possible in order to more easily consume great quantities of it for a minimum of price are simply *not* going to be impressed by whatever cleverly cheap swill you come up with. Ever.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Account20151023 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:39 pm UTC

See, you're missing my argument. I know good alcohol, and I know shitty alcohol. Aristocrat, Schlitz, Ron Pablo, and Old Milwaukee are shitty. Captain Morgan, Skyy, Flying Dog, and Magic Hat are good. I'm saying that a brass monkey is actually a GOOD drink. Not a "choke it down with minimal effort" drink.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby 22/7 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:04 pm UTC

BomanTheBear wrote:See, you're missing my argument. I know good alcohol, and I know shitty alcohol. Aristocrat, Schlitz, Ron Pablo, and Old Milwaukee are shitty. Captain Morgan, Skyy, Flying Dog, and Magic Hat are good. I'm saying that a brass monkey is actually a GOOD drink. Not a "choke it down with minimal effort" drink.

I'm not sure I'd put Captain Morgan and Skyy in the category of "good" if our only two categories are "good" and "shitty".
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:36 pm UTC

22/7 wrote:
BomanTheBear wrote:Captain Morgan, Skyy, Flying Dog, and Magic Hat are good.

I'm not sure I'd put Captain Morgan and Skyy in the category of "good" if our only two categories are "good" and "shitty".

I'd say split decision. Morgan's is *definitely* shit. But if you're going to posit that there is such a think as a good vodka, the bar is pretty close to Skyy.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby 22/7 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

Apparently some of us don't appreciate vodka. Fair enough, I don't really like rum. But Skyy is middle of the road as far as I'm concerned. Of course, they all fail miserably when trying to contend with whiskey or tequila (yes, I know that's an odd combination).






Oh, and apples most of the time, but on a hot day, nothing beats an orange. Well, nothing in the set of fruits that are apples.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:48 pm UTC

I used to drink a LOT of vodka and even now I usually stock Skyy, but if we really only have two options, it's going to be pretty close to the bottom of the 'good' list. I'd honestly say it *is* the demarcation line.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Matt » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:55 pm UTC

As much as I agree, Az, this is not the Liquor thread nor any of it's permutations. Let's keep the vodka/Captain sucks argument there.

Back on topic: Are Blood Oranges different enough from your typical orange to be considered its own family of citrus fruit? Is there a crazy apple variety that compares to this distinction?
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Endless Mike » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:31 pm UTC

I grew up in Florida, so oranges. Apple trees were few and far between, but you were never too far from a fresh orange. :)

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby 22/7 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:10 pm UTC

I grew up not too far from Johnny Appleseed country, so apples. Also, the Johnny Appleseed festival is amazing. That is all.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Azrael » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:04 pm UTC

Well fine, Matt :wink: If I can't judge based on alcomohol, I'm choosing apples. Being from New England and all.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Account20151023 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:44 pm UTC

Hm. As much as I like oranges, I'm going to have to say apples win based on variety. Although it's hard to beat a glass of fresh-squeezed orange juice.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby telcontar42 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:23 pm UTC

Apples are tastier and can be made into pie. Oranges can not compete.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby MrHackman » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:58 pm UTC

telcontar42 wrote:Apples are tastier and can be made into pie. Oranges can not compete.

And now I can't help but wonder what an "orange pie" would taste like...
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby Lt Greatsocks » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:09 am UTC

MrHackman wrote:
telcontar42 wrote:Apples are tastier and can be made into pie. Oranges can not compete.

And now I can't help but wonder what an "orange pie" would taste like...


All of this brings up the real point of the issue.
Somebody come up with a recipe for some orange pie. That'd be off the hook.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby MrHackman » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:47 am UTC

Lt Greatsocks wrote:
MrHackman wrote:
telcontar42 wrote:Apples are tastier and can be made into pie. Oranges can not compete.

And now I can't help but wonder what an "orange pie" would taste like...


All of this brings up the real point of the issue.
Somebody come up with a recipe for some orange pie. That'd be off the hook.

My cooking skills are exactly equal to my reading skills (ie following directions on the back of the box), but one could (in theory) create an orange pie by replacing the apple slices with orange slices (though what to do with the cinnamon and nutmeg?). Anyone who has their cooking skill in the double digits or higher please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby judestones » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:40 am UTC

Not only can you compare apples and oranges, but if you grind them each one up and campare them by their constituent elements it turns out that they are very similar, less then 2% difference. There is probably a greater difference within the family of oranges, or within the family of apples, than there is between any randomly selected pair of apples and oranges. Of course that last sentence is only conjecture, where as the ingredient comparison is the only thing I still remember from my college chemistry class.

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Re: Apples vs Oranges

Postby clintonius » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:25 am UTC

Oranges win, in my humble opinion, because of one dish: stuffed french toast with orange syrup.
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