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Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:56 pm UTC
by Ianto
Following on from whether star trek or star wars would win in a fight and some youtubing I was wondering who would win out of the United Nations Marine Corp (UNMC) with Spartens and the Galatic Republic?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:05 am UTC
by Babam
Ianto wrote:Following on from whether star trek or star wars would win in a fight and some youtubing I was wondering who would win out of the United Nations Space Command (UNSC) with Spartans and the Galatic Republic?


Fix'd

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:56 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
Hm. Spartans vs Jedi, or Spartans vs clones? Jedi would probably beat the Spartans (both are elite warriors, so, like ninjas, are better by themselves than in a group... and a lone Jedi vs a lone Spartan is no contest due to the destructive power of the lightsaber). On the other hand, Spartans would slaughter the clones.

If we're going by which universe is better, Halo wins, because they have Cortana. If there were an actual woman like Cortana, I would have long since married her.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:51 am UTC
by Babam
bigstrat2003 wrote:Hm. Spartans vs Jedi, or Spartans vs clones? Jedi would probably beat the Spartans (both are elite warriors, so, like ninjas, are better by themselves than in a group... and a lone Jedi vs a lone Spartan is no contest due to the destructive power of the lightsaber). On the other hand, Spartans would slaughter the clones.

If we're going by which universe is better, Halo wins, because they have Cortana. If there were an actual woman like Cortana, I would have long since married her.

Clearly you have forgotten about shielding. And you know the fact that yes while Jedi can block bullets, have you noticed that it is always slowly? Get a sniper and a couple of people to SMG rush and that Jedi is dead.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:12 pm UTC
by pancake bunny
Star Wars because they have the galaxy gun(http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_Gun),and the death star would blow earth to pieces.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:33 pm UTC
by Ianto
Halo rings fired in a tactical burst could wipe out small sections of the galaxy and dont forget the flood could infect jedi :D

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:30 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
Oh God. Jedi flood. *shudder*

That's even scarier than rocket Flood, which are already really damned scary.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:34 pm UTC
by Brooklynxman
Jedi are too strong. They would win.

Plus, death star. The Halo is a suicide weapon, death star is not. SW wins

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:36 pm UTC
by Ianto
not if controlled properlaly

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:05 am UTC
by BlackSails
Halo wins.

Evacuate to the ark, fire the halos.


On are more tactical scale, I would give spartans the edge vs jedi. Mandalorians are the closest thing to Spartans in star wars, and while they still lose to Jedi, its pretty close. Give them shields, plasma grenades and gravity hammers and it would be no contest.

Also, Spartans can survive orbital drops. Without drop pods.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:23 am UTC
by Babam
The halo rings have a limited range, all seven of them have to be fired at once to clean the whole galaxy.
And seeing as Halo's humanity has a portal to the ark right in their own backyard...
1.Open portal
2.Teleport to ark
3.Close portal
4.Activate ark
5.??????
6.End all star wars based life
7. Profit!

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:46 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
They trigger each other, though, so firing one is essentially like firing all.

But yes, you could retreat to the Ark and make quick work of the Star Wars folks.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:44 am UTC
by Babam
bigstrat2003 wrote:They trigger each other, though, so firing one is essentially like firing all.

But yes, you could retreat to the Ark and make quick work of the Star Wars folks.

They don't trigger each other, one being primed primes all the others, but for a synchronized firing you have to go to the ark, other wise you have to visit every single ring and fire them individually, and uh die on the first one.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:45 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
No, this was established in the first game.

Cortana: "That's what Halo was designed to do. Wipe the galaxy of all sentient life!"
Chief (to 343 Guilty Spark): "Is it true?"
343 Guilty Spark: "More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of [distance which I forget]. But once the other installations follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life..."

It's not explicitly stated, but the obvious implication is that firing one ring triggers them all (if the Chief had triggered the ring, he'd be dead... how would the other rings "follow suit", then? Guilty Spark wouldn't have been able to try to get someone to activate them all individually). And, indeed, as the rings are a last-ditch defense mechanism against the Flood, no other way would make sense.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:12 pm UTC
by Ianto
In the synopsis in the halo 3 manual it says something about a signal being transmitted when a halo ring is activate or destroyed making them fire automagically or something

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:49 am UTC
by pancake bunny
can the halos kill thing moving faster than light?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:39 am UTC
by bigstrat2003
Pure speculation: I got the impression that the pulse wasn't FTL (actually, end of Halo 3 confirms this now I think about it... the Arbiter wouldn't have made it back to Earth if the pulse could outrun a slipspace jump), but that the communication to the other rings was FTL. So, even if you could outrun the pulse you were nearest to, you'd still get slaughtered by one of the other pulses.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:13 pm UTC
by Ianto
i think reli it would be a question of who stuck first and what time period were talking about here becuase if the flood, the covernant and the humans are all fighting they could be picked off one by one as long as at least two of the factions were allied in some way there would be a chance especially if the flood saw the oppertunity of infecting jedi

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:24 am UTC
by pancake bunny
also Spartans aren't that strong on well placed shot to the head and they'd be dead. the clones have snipers and they can be produced much faster than Spartans. also marines can't do shit so yeah.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:18 pm UTC
by BlackSails
pancake bunny wrote:also Spartans aren't that strong on well placed shot to the head and they'd be dead. the clones have snipers and they can be produced much faster than Spartans. also marines can't do shit so yeah.


The clones are also stormtroopers, and as we all know, stormtroopers are the worst shots in any sci-fi series, ever.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:31 pm UTC
by ian
What's the power output of Halo Weapons/Shielding compared to Star Wars.

In the expanded universe jedi have stopped projectile weaponry without the use of a lightsabre, so not sure what SMG would do. Also you can arm a spartan however you like. If a jedi can pick him up and toss him wherever they like it's not going to matter.

Ark + Halos firing probably wins though, if it's wiping out all the galaxy anyway (is this happening in sw galaxy or ours?)

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:32 pm UTC
by ian
BlackSails wrote:
pancake bunny wrote:also Spartans aren't that strong on well placed shot to the head and they'd be dead. the clones have snipers and they can be produced much faster than Spartans. also marines can't do shit so yeah.


The clones are also stormtroopers, and as we all know, stormtroopers are the worst shots in any sci-fi series, ever.


The stormtoopers by episdoe 4 are mostly not clones.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:58 pm UTC
by Ianto
i think he meant stormtrooper are clones so therefore the markmenship has come from clones so both are poor snipers. anyway as pancake bunny said the spartans can use any weapon so could potential use a lightsaber if learned how to do so. (addition) and if someone got to the sw galaxy and stole some cortosis and put some crystals into the vally of the jedi we could then infuse the sparten with lightsaber resistant armor and the force

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:05 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
Then they would be Spartan Jedi. Your theory is cheating.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:26 pm UTC
by Ianto
It is not cheating it is using the resources of the star wars galaxy against them to maximise potential which is what the spartens are bred for

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:36 pm UTC
by BlackSails
Also, jedi cant deflect a Spartan laser beam. Or a MAC cannon salvo.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:33 am UTC
by Babam
Generally in these situations we assume the two worlds have merged, but yes a jedi could not stop a sentinel beam, or a spartan laser, or a mac cannon salvo.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:52 am UTC
by pancake bunny
i also have to say that if the Jedi found a scarab gun they would be unstoppable.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:40 am UTC
by Ianto
could a lightsaber stop a energy sword or a gravity hammer?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:35 pm UTC
by BlackSails
Ianto wrote:could a lightsaber stop a energy sword or a gravity hammer?


Probably. An energy sword is probably a rough equivalent to a lightsabre.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:51 am UTC
by Ianto
How would a UNMC Frigate Hold up to a Star Destroyer or equivalent Republic Vessal?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:11 pm UTC
by bigstrat2003
Ianto wrote:It is not cheating it is using the resources of the star wars galaxy against them to maximise potential which is what the spartens are bred for


It is too cheating, because the question is who would win, a Spartan or a Jedi? Obviously a Spartan-Jedi would beat either one of them, so it sidesteps the question entirely.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:52 pm UTC
by BlackSails
Ianto wrote:How would a UNMC Frigate Hold up to a Star Destroyer or equivalent Republic Vessal?


Its impossible to tell. Star Wars doesnt have relativity, and the UNSC main guns fire relativistic slugs.

Assuming that covenant energy weapons are as effective on SW shields as they are against their own shields, a combined Covenant-UNSC force (like the elites and the humans) might be able to achieve space superiority.

Then again, you could just fire relativistic spartans at the star destoyers and kill them scarab style.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:54 pm UTC
by Ianto
infiltration and destruction

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:10 pm UTC
by kwub
If we are to assume that this war takes place in the SWG, then the Flood win hands down. The Yuuzhan Vong made short work of the vast majority of sentient beings throughout the galaxy, Jedi included, and the Flood are vastly more threatening than the Vong could ever hope to be.

If we are to assume that this war takes place in our galaxy, then Human/Covenant alliance wins hands down. Evacuate to the Ark, trigger the Halos, "GG NO RE THX."

Either way, I don't see how Star Wars has even the slightest chance of victory outside of Jedi-driven deus ex machina, which is arguably a more powerful force (pun intended) than the Spartan equivalent.

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:07 pm UTC
by Berengal
kwub wrote:If we are to assume that this war takes place in our galaxy, then the spartans would run around with snipers, hump eachothers corpses and call eachother gay.
FTFY

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 am UTC
by Psychopomp
The flood are not an issue. SW ships have kinetic and energy shields that would prevent any boarding action long enough for their incomprehensibly superior shipborne firepower to completely destroy every ship in range. And considering a Halo can be destroyed by a limited nuclear reaction like the PoA reactor going into overload, why are we acting like the SW ships can't simply destroy the Halos with their nuke dwarfing weapons?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:55 pm UTC
by Ianto
granted in space SW ships win out right however in ground combat spartens would destroy all troops by superior armour and training

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:14 am UTC
by BlackSails
Psychopomp wrote:The flood are not an issue. SW ships have kinetic and energy shields that would prevent any boarding action long enough for their incomprehensibly superior shipborne firepower to completely destroy every ship in range. And considering a Halo can be destroyed by a limited nuclear reaction like the PoA reactor going into overload, why are we acting like the SW ships can't simply destroy the Halos with their nuke dwarfing weapons?


It is very, very difficult to find things in space.

Also, dont the elites have some beam weapon that cuts ships in half, shields and all?

Re: Halo vs Star Wars

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:51 am UTC
by Ivan227
Following on from whether star trek or star wars would win in a fight and some youtubing I was wondering who would win out of the United Nations Space Command (UNSC) with Spartens and the Galatic Republic?



Not even vaguely a contest. the thing about the galactic republic is that it is a galactic power and has been one for a long time. the earth of the UNSC has its own resources and those of a handful of outposts and colony worlds. if we're talking post-halo series UNSC then their resources are limited to only those of an earth that's been pounded flat and the remnants of the Elite mutineers fleet. if you multiplied their strength 20 times they might approach being large enough to be a rounding error for the galactic republic.

In the face of such disparity the UNSC could only hope to have a chance of surviving much less winning if they had vastly superior weapons. this however, is not the case.The halo-verse hand weapons seem about equal to the SW-verse ones. as do their ground vehicles. the UNSC does have the advantage of personal shields which is a technology that seems to have been lost some time ago in the starwars universe. In ship to ship combat however, the UNSC is so ridiculously outclassed it aint even funny. about the only thing they have going for them is that slipspace rupture FTL appears to be instant whereas hyperdrives are merely much faster then lightspeed. a protracted hit and run campaign might be possible depending on who's in charge. I don't think it would be very successful though because UNSC doesn't (imo) have the guts(and perhaps not even the ability) to bombard populated planets until they are just planets. Anything less wouldn't be enough to do more then draw attention to yourself.