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Compliment the Enemy

Postby dasada122 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:32 pm UTC

Say something good about our least favorite OS.
(For mental health.)


Mac is a superb platform for graphic manipulation and artists; it makes the computer speak human instead of the human having to speak computer.

(That hurt, but I think I'm better for it.)

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Game_boy » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:27 pm UTC

MS Paintbrush is the best graphics tool, and MS Movie Maker is the best video editing tool, for 95% of the population's needs in those areas.

Seriously, I wish Linux had applications in those areas that aren't for professionals and don't require year-long training courses to crop a picture or upload a slideshow to Youtube.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby lulzfish » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:29 pm UTC

Vista had a compositing window manager, which is much, MUCH, MUCH more than I can say about Windows XP's piece of shit graphics setup.
It reminds me of cde or whatever that crap is when I start an X server without a window manager attached.

So, Vista does have superior window management to XP. In fact, I wish the school's computers ran Vista. After using KDE 4, XP feels so primitive.

update: Kdenlive is pretty good for video editing. It replaces most of Movie Maker's functionality, though the export function is weird as hell.
As for image editing, I think TuxPaint is supposed to be simpler and easier than GIMP, but I've always just used GIMP for everything so I don't know.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Game_boy » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:39 pm UTC

lulzfish wrote:update: Kdenlive is pretty good for video editing. It replaces most of Movie Maker's functionality, though the export function is weird as hell.
As for image editing, I think TuxPaint is supposed to be simpler and easier than GIMP, but I've always just used GIMP for everything so I don't know.


Believe me, I've tried all of the apps put up as alternatives. I couldn't even get Kdenlive to run, other video editors didn't have a WYSIWYG enough timeline, Tuxpaint didn't feel enough like MS Paint and kolourpaint crashes when I exit it and copy-paste doesn't work sometimes. Also few of those are native Gnome apps so I have to wait for the libraries to load themselves for 5s every time I launch them.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby phillipsjk » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:15 pm UTC

I don't know enough about various OS's to have a "least favorite."

The "least Featureful" "OS" I have used may may been (Mircrosoft) Comodore (64) BASIC. The thing I like about it is a product of the hardware design, not the software itself: Nearly instant readiness. The intro blurb and prompt came up so fast, I thought the machine was broken.


Game_boy wrote:Seriously, I wish Linux had applications in those areas that aren't for professionals and don't require year-long training courses to crop a picture or upload a slideshow to Youtube.


These exist. They may not be kde or Gnomified. They also won't be bug-for-bug imitations. For example, I used one that supported a variety of image formats. I forget what it was called.

Edit: I'm talking "paint" replacements. Not so sure about "moviemaker" replacements.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Endless Mike » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:24 pm UTC

MS Bob is good for the elderly and retards.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Berengal » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:17 am UTC

Windows ME worked some of the time.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby lu6cifer » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:22 am UTC

Windows Vista is shiny.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby thatblackguy » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:58 am UTC

Wifi fucking works in Vista.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby crzftx » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:14 am UTC

Ubuntu is free

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Sc4Freak » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:27 am UTC

Windows Mobile is easy to develop for.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby lulzfish » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:37 am UTC

Windows XP and Vista probably have a single, unified sound API that works really well and never gets messed up or conflicted with another sound API.

I'm guessing, though, because I've never taken the time to actually try to program on Windows.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby OOPMan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:59 am UTC

Symbian has *some* useful applications.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Endless Mike » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:23 pm UTC

Linux works on a wide variety of hardware classes.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Vault » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:10 pm UTC

Windows has lots of games, and if I played games on the computer I would love to have Win7.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby kernelpanic » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:33 pm UTC

Well, Mac OS's interface is pretty...
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby ex-kgb » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:43 am UTC

In windows 7, I could actually use this virus scanner my mom got. See? Linux makes you waste things. and I have a license for three whole computers!

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby LikwidCirkel » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:26 am UTC

I do believe that latest Apple OSX really is the safest, most sane and reliable choice for what I would consider "mission critical" audio work, like performing/manipulating with Ableton Live or other software of choice, or possibly even DJing.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Internetmeme » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:32 pm UTC

I love you Vista!
Those blue screens that you gave me after a week of owning you? Good job! It was like watching a thriller movie, you never know when they would show up! Even when I returned it to the store, you taught me that HP doesn't make good computers!
My favorite feature was asking me about ever process you were running, especially core processes that were programmed into you.
I also loved Internet Explorer, all of the spyware and adware was just so funny! I might not want my penis enlarged or some Asian porn, but it's the thought that counts.
Thanks Vista! I hope you don't care that I'm using your little brother, XP.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Dromtry » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:32 pm UTC

OSX is designed to only work on very, VERY shiny computers.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:45 pm UTC

Dromtry wrote:OSX is designed to only work on very, VERY shiny computers.

They're really not very shiny anymore, being brushed aluminum (with a couple exceptions).

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Dream » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:50 pm UTC

Endless Mike wrote:
Dromtry wrote:OSX is designed to only work on very, VERY shiny computers.

They're really not very shiny anymore, being brushed aluminum (with a couple exceptions).

And mine's filthy, but seems to still work.

OSS software for demanding tasks may not be perfect enough for me to consider packing in all my commercial, licensed programs, but each project is a very, very impressive achievement for a disparate group of unpaid part time contributors.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby lulzfish » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:36 pm UTC

In a more generic sense of enemy complimenting (software, not operating systems), GTK+ is probably VERY useful for projects that need a GUI but can't use C++ for whatever reason.

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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby J the Ninja » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:21 pm UTC

Windows has wonderful game support, and there's really no other OS you should use on your gaming rig.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby EduardoLeon » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:41 pm UTC

Windows, starting from Vista, is rather secure. It has more available apps (especially number-crunching apps) than my favorite OS, Mac OS X. I had to to install a Windows virtual machine just to run Excel with Palisade Decision Tools.

As a developer, I think Xcode is nice, but, coming from a heavy C++/MFC background, I like Visual Studio 2005 more (VS 2008 uses way too many resources for my taste). As someone who knows how hard it its to ensure compatibility between programs, I appreciate the effort Microsoft has made to make old applications compatible with more recent versions of Windows.

Mac OS X is fun to use but, without many apps available, it's almost impossible to get any serious work done. (I don't count graphics/video/music editing as serious work, despite the fact I have worked editing music recordings when I was a teenager.) Serious work means financial and engineering apps. And financial end engineering apps that you can share with your coworkers means Excel + VBA + possibly some external libraries written in C++ or .NET.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby stephentyrone » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:02 pm UTC

Windows is the gaming system.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby neoliminal » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:32 pm UTC

GEOS was an amazing visual operating system for it's time.
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Re: Compliment the Enemy

Postby Jengajam2 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:37 am UTC

Game_boy wrote:MS Paintbrush is the best graphics tool, and MS Movie Maker is the best video editing tool, for 95% of the population's needs in those areas.

Seriously, I wish Linux had applications in those areas that aren't for professionals and don't require year-long training courses to crop a picture or upload a slideshow to Youtube.

Openshot is a very simple video editor to use, at least on Ubuntu.

On topic, FreeBSD's Ports package manager is one of the best package managers around.
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