Been rereading on the bus home today, and one point struck me:
@mpolo - why did you claim your role?
I don't see much benefit in a self watcher claiming as such, except to counter-claim somebody else's supposed target. Consider this: if he is town, scum now know that he is relatively harmless to them and they can essentially ignore him, allowing them to focus on other players who presumably would have more useful abilities. Similarly, having revealed this, mpolo's only use to town with that power is to verify that a) he is not lying, and b) that somebody has a power that he can target them with. On the other hand, if he hadn't revealed it, he could have used it to confirm or deny being targeted by another player. One further point, it is possible that scum!mpolo is telling the truth. Although traditionally a townie role, I don't see why a Watcher couldn't be useful in the hands of scum. That all being said, I've had disagreements with people, including, I think, town!mpolo before on when to claim powers such as this, so I think I'm likely overthinking it.
In re-reading mpolo, I found this:
mpolo wrote:I have the same power before and after death of my pal, but it is more flexible before death of the penpal.
The way he's claimed his power later in this post:
mpolo wrote:My power is worded that I am unable to sleep at night, so have the power to know everyone who visits me, but if my pen pal is alive, I can choose to watch someone else instead.
does match up, so is a small townie point for him.
mpolo wrote:Got distracted today. Maybe more after dinner.
Sabrar is seeming consistently townish. He is right about flicky and DJ, which has flicky looking good. Minus points to Sabrar for being alive D2, but since everybody knows he is the default scum target on N1 when he is town, I can buy his having been protected. As mentioned before, Madge and enlightened are also looking good. Which at least narrows down who I need to look at.
Isn't it usually D2/N2 that he dies?
Following my re-read of mpolo, I don't have any issue with his D1 play at all. His reasoning for voting Madge seems solid enough, given that he was pen pals with DJ. His D2 content started off focusing too much on DJ and Madge for my liking, but his last couple of brief posts have touched on a few others, so I feel better about him than I would have done had I done this yesterday, despite all the circumstantial evidence. I certainly wouldn't bet on him being town, but I definitely don't have him as cast iron scum.
Moving onto others now. Carlington - his D1 content prior to the last 24 hours before deadline was almost entirely focused on setup discussion, with only a brief comment on dimochka and Sabrar that I saw in my skim through. He has posted almost nothing of substance on D2. In particular, he hasn't commented on the lynch or on people's links to DJ as of yet, despite having posted twice since day start.
Dimochka - has also not posted anything substantial since the start of the day, other than to say he'd likely have voted Madge. My thoughts on him haven't really changed at all as of yet, but I do want some input from him sooner rather than later.
@Carlington & DJ, please could you give some thoughts on DJ's flip, and anything else significant.
emlightened - I and others have already posted my thoughts on why she isn't scum, but as a result, I want to know what she thinks and why. In particular:
@emlightened - you said that you found Carlington the most suspicious, followed by dimochka. Any particular reason why?
flicky - I like his contributions today, and they have felt a lot more original than much of D1. He also has posted some reasons behind some his thoughts as well, which is more than many today. Seems good to me.
Madge - she was the first to vote for DJ, and at that point, there was no massive pressure to vote for him (or anybody else). I like this, as I doubt she'd bus him heavily on D1. On the other hand, she seems to be willing to let him off the hook at deadline, despite her previous vote having valid reasons. She doesn't give a reason why her opinion on DJ changed between her vote on him, and the prisoner dilemma discussion. She seemed more concerned with her own survival than lynching her previous (presumed) top suspect. Like several others, hasn't posted much content today, but has posted a reason for this at least. I doubt she's mafia, based purely on her vote on DJ, but I wonder if she is some kind of independent?
Moody - has posted big reads lists on both D1 and D2 now. Obviously, I disagree with his conclusion re. my question on suggested scum tactics, and his vote on me, but that doesn't make him scum, especially given that he at least has posted reasonably valid reasons for his vote. I'm a little disappointed that he doesn't elaborate further on why he didn't come back to emlightened when reconsidering his Madge vote. Other than that, his reasoning in his reads list seems fairly solid, if a little weird that he's relying on "mpolo's reasoning" for not finding emlightened scummy.
@moody - could you clarify the point from your read on emlightened about mpolo's reasoning? Do you mean to say that your opinion matches his, i.e. that his reasoning about her is valid?
Sabrar - as always, the chattiest of the bunch. I don't have time to do a full reread of his posts now, but I can say that usually by now scum!Sabrar has started pinging me, and I don't get that feeling this time around. His analysis, and general attempts to get discussion going all are good. Biggest negative is that he backed down from voting DJ (or Madge), in the hope of lynching emlightened instead. Otherwise, he has posted thoughts on a variety of players with good reasoning. He genuinely appears to be trying to figure out if mpolo is scum by analysing his past games. Overall, I think he's likely the mafia target tonight
Great, too many town reads, and no outstanding scum reads
As my scummiest player:Vote CarlingtonI will be away from Friday afternoon until late-ish Sunday. I expect I'll have a bit of time to contribute, but not necessarily. The same goes for the following weekend, if I'm still alive and we're still going by that point.
In particular, that means I may not have much chance to contribute leading up to the deadline.