2R1B1B Round 3 Room A

[ConMan]

This is a game thread for Two Rooms, One Boom And A Bang. Game info is here.

Please post in this thread only if you are listed as being in this room, and only for the duration of Round 3, starting at 12:00 AM Thursday, July 13 UTC.

If you are in this room, do not read the thread for the other room.

Players in this room:
Madge
BoomFrog (Leader)
heuristically_alone

Players in the other room:
mpolo
Gopher of Pern
bessie

This round will commence shortly.

IMPORTANT: Given the current state of the game, I will end the round early if (a) both room leaders have posted their hostages, and (b) at least 2 members in each room request an early end.

[heuristically_alone]

request early game end

The entire game is solved.

[ConMan]

The round has begun, and will end in 95 hours, unless otherwise noted.

[BoomFrog]

Vote for game to end

So you informed the gambler of the situation here then? Do you think the sniper got any clue to your role?

[heuristically_alone]

Gambler lied to me, sniper knows who I am. I didnt tell them squat about what happened in here, but gambler knows who everyone is now except president and bomber, so just doesn't know which of you is which.

[BoomFrog]

Weird. Why didn't they send the gambler in here to find out then? I would have been forced to reveal in order to prevent them from helping Madge...

[heuristically_alone]

Looks like gambler has an agreement with sniper. I hypothesized before the round started that the sniper would be the one to come into this room, but it was the decoy.

[BoomFrog]

I was expecting gambler. Decoy was a surprise, but then I realized they wanted you alone so they could try and trick you. Probably by one of them pretending to be the decoy.

[heuristically_alone]

Is a hostage still sent at the end of this round? And if so, does everyone know what hostage is sent?

[Madge]

Vote game end

(AGAIN I didn't find the new thread... I'm bad at the "realising new day has started so new thread has been made" part of this game...)

[BoomFrog]

That reminds me:

Hostage:

Spoiler:

heuristically_alone

[BoomFrog]

Is a hostage still sent at the end of this round? And if so, does everyone know what hostage is sent?

Yes and pretty sure yes. The hostage sent will be known to the gambler before their guess.

[heuristically_alone]

I waa contemplating if there was a way to screw the gambler, but that would probably end with screwing you up, Boomfrog. Sadly there does not seem to be a way. Madge, shall we have a loser's tea party?

[Madge]

Nah, we should vote me as leader and send boomfrog away just to put a little chaos and FUN in the game. Come on, throw me a bone here!

Vote Madge as leader

[BoomFrog]

*Hands Madge a metaphorical last cigarette*

pour la route I'm french now...

[Madge]

Je t'étoufferai avec ton écharpe, con.

Appeler les gendarmes ! La présidente va mourir !

[heuristically_alone]

No te voy a ayudar ganar si era tu culpa que compariste con Boomfrog.

[Madge]

Merde.

[BoomFrog]

*Laughs in French*

[heuristically_alone]

Soooooo, what are you going to do to celebrate your victory?

[BoomFrog]

Well first if all, this already is the victory celebration. I'll probably do the traditional post game analysis of the game balance. I guess we can start now even though not all parties (especially conman) cannot participate.

I think 2R1B starts intrinsically 50/50 and so strategies that end up not worse then 50/50 seem reasonable and many of those strategies resolve the game immediately. Any other strategy is essentially tricking the other players into doing something sub optimal. Therefore whoever thinks they are the weakest player should just choose to do something that makes the game 50/50 ASAP. So, the result is the game will invariably collapse. I think the only way around this is the time pressure element of the original game and without that it really doesn't work.

So in conclusion, I don't think 2R1B works as a forum game and I probably won't play in future rounds unless someone can convince me otherwise.

[heuristically_alone]

The game is infinitely easier for the "hunters" than I initially had thought. "Hunters" just want to card share with as many people as possible. They will look for those card sharing as least as possible or barely enough to not look like "hiders". The game would work better with a lot more players I feel like. Too few roles participating. Shame more people didn't sign up.

[BoomFrog]

I think sniper and gambler are true hunters that have nothing to lose by sharing as much as they can. However bomber is not. If madge was the leader when we shared I would have lost twenty dollars and my self respect. Pres and bomber are basically symmetrical they both want to identify the other and have the other in a room they control on the last round. They are hunters when they control the room and hiders when they don't. The fun is pretending to be a hunter when you're not or vice versa, but the flaw is that it's hard to be pretend to be a hunter while maintaining a reason not to share.

[ConMan]

Sorry for the delay - I fell a bit ill on Friday and took the whole weekend to recover. The game is now over. heuristically_alone was the final hostage from Room A, and mpolo was the final hostage from Room B. Final deliberations will be posted in the central thread shortly.