Leaning Town. Early aggression looks good to me. She's obviously engaged in the game and is interacting well with all players. Curious to see how her reads turn out since she seems to already have an FoS on half the players.
This is a bit odd:
bessie wrote:Note that I did very little setup spec the first two days of Crossover mafia, and was heavily FoS’d because it was so atypical of my meta.
bessie, while it's true that you didn't do much setup spec in Crossover, my recollection is that the only people who were giving you hard time about this were Sabrar and BoomFrog (and possibly EGW borrowing their read). Was there someone else? Otherwise I'm not sure why you have this impression since the only people who would have been pushing you over this were mafia.
What is your impression of Hari Seldon?Hari Seldon:
Strongly leaning Town. Commented a bit on him already here
Hari Seldon wrote:1. JimBob was the first player to post; therefore, he did not have a feel for the thread when making his post. I believe a Mafia would have reservation about making an eye catching post before getting a feel for the game.
2. JimBob added details to his RP that were not in the opening post. I believe that required a degree of creativity, albeit small degree. I believe that creativity requires a degree of immersion. Therefore, I believe that JimBob was immersed with his character. Being immersed with his charter would have required JimBob to have read the character theme in his role PM. Therefore, I believe that JimBob likely has a character that is a Town.
I do not expect that Jim would have been inclined to make the same post if he received the role of a rebellious teenager. He gave me more so the impression of a pompous upper class gentleman.
This is a very clever read. Not only because I agree that the reasoning does point to jimbob being Town, but also because I don't believe that Hari is likely to have made this point were he scum.
@Hari, you have several strong scumreads at this point. Why aren't you voting?jimbob:
Leaning Town. Post count is still pretty low for him at this point, but both of his reads posts look like detailed analytical work I expect from him. I hope to see him engage the thread more than he has so far, as I do tend to find him posting mostly reads/walls without actually interacting more consistent with his scum play (though I've been wrong about this as well). I like his push on wam in his reads, not so much his defense of Peaceful Whale, which I find a bit generous. I agree with Hari that the "Alfred" comment is more likely to have come from Town!jim than scum!jim. I find it odd that after playing for several years jimbob didn't know what FoS means. I'm sure it's come up before in one of the games we've played together. Maven:
I was looking forward to playing this game with Maven as I had been really impressed with his (short-lived) content D1 in Crossover. Sadly, so far he has not impressed me. I'm hoping that his lack of activity or apparent interest is due to some RL reason and he gets more involved in the game going forward since he hasn't really posted anything of particular interest or significance at this point. Neutral for now, but I don't like the lurking.moody:
I still don't care for how he does his reads
, which are mostly just content summaries with a fairly tentative commentary (slightly townie/scummy, etc.), though looking back at his previous games this style of commentary does seem to be roughly consistent with how he always plays. When I pressed him a bit, he does seem to have more detailed impressions about why he believes his reads, though looking at his response about somitomi being his strongest scumread, I'm a bit confused because it looks like he has the argument backwards
: He thinks somitomi knows too much about night activity, rather than the actual problem which was that somitomi didn't know enough. So this scumread doesn't actually seem well-motivated to me. Leaving him as neutral for now.Peaceful Whale:
Doesn't seem as jumpy as he did in Crossover. I hope it's just that he's improving his play and growing more confident, but I can't overlook that his play this game seems much more consistent with how he played as scum in both WatchTower (the FaiD game) and Fridge, rather than Crossover/X-Men where he was town. Meta points to him being scum, though I actually really hope I'm proved wrong here.
I agree with others that this looks bad though:
Peaceful Whale wrote:It doesn’t necessarily mean I’m scum, look at my other scum games.
Discussed at length. I feel that somitomi made a slip early in the game about having information about scum having daychat, but not knowing about the rules regarding nights. I do see a version of events that could lead to this being a null tell, if I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he completely misunderstood how the night phase worked in his previous game, which I suppose might
be possible if he were vanilla town or some similar role. My feeling is that it's more likely that this was a genuine slip, and he's been trying to evade or backtrack since. If so, his partner is likely Peaceful Whale, Maven, or maybe jimbob. Noting that PW also had some confusion about how nights were supposed to work this game. Scummy.wam:
I'm suspicious of the early slip of him forgetting scum have daychat. I've seen both Town and scum players do this, and I don't find it particularly credible for a player with apparently 100 games under his belt and who is fairly actively engaged in this game to make. Setup spec is 6-2-1 and feels scum is at a disadvantage in this scenario, which again feels like a very strange comment for an experienced player or moderator to make.
wam wrote:Peaceful whale is giving me a different impression to our FAID game and which is making me lean towards town. I don't want to add to this yet as that game is still ongoing but we are both dead!
@wam: Now that this game is finished, can you comment on what you see is different between PW here and in that game?
Reads list is pretty weak. Basically only has jimbob as scummy based possibly on the Alfred comment. His town reads on both me and somitomi are just "This post looks townie" without any real explanation why. Backing off jimbob in the next post looks bad, and leaves him with no scum reads whatsoever. Not really much to like here at all. Scummy.
Not sure about the ordering between somitomi/wam. I can see good reasons to vote either way. Hmm.Vote wam
Pressure vote pending somitomi's response about his role in the FaiD game.