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Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:10 pm UTC
by mpolo
Obviously, Madge has been super-unhelpful. If we believe that we had a public watcher, though, either moody or somitomi is the killer.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:15 pm UTC
by Sabrar
I don't want to base my decision on a flavor text that's not guaranteed to be correct. We could also have a role that produces such false reports. I somehow doubt that wam would put that in of his own accord as that would be very close to the mod potentially influencing the game (but theoretically would be possible given high bastardry).
That's why we need somitomi's claim asap.
somitomi wrote:Hello, D4 has started!

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:03 pm UTC
by Sabrar
@moody: just to confirm, do you still claim being totally vanilla and nothing in your role-pm hinting at otherwise? You clearly had lynch-immunity and were possibly seen visiting plytho last night. Do you want to maybe modify your claim?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:21 pm UTC
by moody7277
Sabrar wrote:@moody: just to confirm, do you still claim being totally vanilla and nothing in your role-pm hinting at otherwise? You clearly had lynch-immunity and were possibly seen visiting plytho last night. Do you want to maybe modify your claim?


I was as surprised about the lynch-immunity as you were, there was nothing in the PM about it. I was already figuring on consoling myself with a big ol' spoiler binge when I read the "nobody was lynched" post from wam. On the watcher thing, if it were anyone else but somi in the results I'd be more inclined to trust them, non-bold or not. My inclusion smacks of trying to build onto an already perfect case, there was a sufficient crap pile against me that you had just voted me.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:44 pm UTC
by somitomi
many people wrote:Where are you?

Sorry, it was a long Thursday again I didn't have time to check on the thread, much less post anything.
mpolo wrote:@somitomi: Did you visit plytho last night?

Yes and oddly enough I saw Madge visiting him, although the flavour in my role PM implies my results may not be accurate.

I think that's all the important things, I'll be back shortly

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:12 pm UTC
by somitomi
mpolo wrote:I'm pretty surprised to have survived the night here. The "CCTV" information is not bold-faced, so I wouldn't take it as gospel truth. In particular, moody has shown enough power to not likely have a night power (though we can't rule out his being mafia with a one-shot lynch-proof).

I guess that would balance the one-shot bulletproof+day vig combo Sabrar has. Not that I'm complaining, but that's fairly OP for town.
Sabrar wrote:In other news I will spam you all into oblivion if you won't post. :evil:

What, you mean even more so than now? :P

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:13 pm UTC
by moody7277
The two competing theories are thus:

--Madge killed plytho and has some sort of framing power that she chose to point at somi and me (assuming it wasn't random, which would be a helluva roll).
--somi killed plytho and is lying about seeing Madge do it because she's the other most suspicious person and would be easiest to mislynch in this case.

Momentum of the game in terms of everyone's reads has been in favor of theory 1 (I challenge anyone to find a read of somi in this game that has been anything less than exemplary, I can't think of any).

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:30 pm UTC
by Sabrar
moody7277 wrote:The two competing theories are thus:
Why not mention the 'moody killed plytho' theory where somitomi gets wrong night-result but flavor hints at correct solution?

@somitomi: any results from previous nights? Why did we only get hint in flavor for N3 but not before?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:51 pm UTC
by somitomi
Sabrar wrote:@somitomi: any results from previous nights?

No, I haven't seen anybody on the first two nights. I tried to target people who were townread by most people (I rarely trust my own judgement), picked bessie N1 and you N2.
Sabrar wrote:Why did we only get hint in flavor for N3 but not before?

Damned if I know, that came out of the blue.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:53 pm UTC
by somitomi
EBWOP: So I actually watched you twice :oops:

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:19 pm UTC
by Sabrar
So it could be that results are now public because there are actually results and somitomi not seeing anyone N1 and N2 just didn't trigger it.
Obviously this could be faked as we do not expect any counterclaims (mpolo and me having day-ability only, Madge and moody claiming vanilla).
However I just don't see it, especially with the public thing.
So either the result or the flavor is telling us the truth, so we lynch Madge or moody today and other one tomorrow if game is not over.

@mpolo: do you still prefer Madge?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:43 pm UTC
by Madge
somitomi wrote:@somitomi: Did you visit plytho last night?

Yes and oddly enough I saw Madge visiting him, although the flavour in my role PM implies my results may not be accurate.[/quote]

I am vanilla town.

Also, I didn't visit plytho last night. So that was... odd.

I am still sure that Sabrar killed Bessie. I am less sure about Moody's scummitude now Plytho has flipped scum.

I can't confirm or deny Somitomi's past targets, they seem like reasonable enough choices though?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:33 am UTC
by Sabrar
Madge wrote:I am still sure that Sabrar killed Bessie.
Let's try this for the last time. C is eliminated. Therefore if I'm scum I would have to be B. However bessie was B. Why in hell do you think that I would kill my own buddy???

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:46 am UTC
by Madge
well for starters you could be a SK, perhaps "scum A", if you will.

I admit my powers of deduction were not great as I suspected you were C as I was certain you killed Bessie.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:22 am UTC
by Sabrar
Sure.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:28 am UTC
by Sabrar
So disregarding everything that is wrong with that scenario, if you think I'm SK then why do you ask me about having killed bessie specifically? Why couldn't I have killed jimbob with plytho killing bessie? The only reason you would think that is because you're B yourself and know that you were the ones to kill jimbob.
I think that's a major slip from Madge and I would prefer her lynch today, hoping that moody can indeed win with us and game will be over.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:49 am UTC
by Madge
I'm not mafia, I'm vanilla town, though I'm well aware how my accusation would have sounded.

The reason why I didn't ask about you killing jimbob is because you didn't kill jimbob, you killed bessie, didn't you?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:10 am UTC
by Sabrar
@somitomi: why didn't you watch mpolo? Surely he was the most townie-looking.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:41 am UTC
by somitomi
Madge wrote:I am still sure that Sabrar killed Bessie. I am less sure about Moody's scummitude now Plytho has flipped scum.

Why are you unsure about moody now? If you think Sabrar killed bessie, then moody is most likely mafia B (there's no reason for Sabrar to kill his partner and Mafia B hasn't been eliminated yet). How do you think the kills were distributed among mafia B, mafia C and Sabrar then? Especially would Sabrar have both day-vig and at least one night-kill?
Madge wrote:well for starters you could be a SK, perhaps "scum A", if you will.

Again, where's mafia B in this theory?
Sabrar wrote:@somitomi: why didn't you watch mpolo? Surely he was the most townie-looking.

You mean last night? I flip-flopped between mpolo and plytho (as the two towniest) and the dice landed on the latter.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:34 am UTC
by Sabrar
somitomi wrote:You mean last night?
Clearly.

Good catch wrt Madge not looking for B. I think that decides it for me.

Vote: Madge

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:25 am UTC
by mpolo
Yep. That looks very much like a slip to me. If I vote, she's L-1… Is that OK?

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:53 am UTC
by Sabrar
I don't see what problem it could cause.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:05 pm UTC
by Sabrar
We are not expecting more claims/results and there is no indication that Madge's content will improve. Based on past experience nothing will happen during the weekend either, we might as well finish this 3 days early.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:32 pm UTC
by moody7277
Sabrar wrote:I don't see what problem it could cause.


I'll wait until you have decided to end discussion before hammering Madge.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:35 pm UTC
by mpolo
Vote: Madge

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:35 pm UTC
by mpolo
By the way, plytho asked why I made no comment while voting yesterday. It was because it was 3 minutes before the deadline. I was just happy to get on at all…

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:45 pm UTC
by somitomi
moody7277 wrote:
Sabrar wrote:I don't see what problem it could cause.


I'll wait until you have decided to end discussion before hammering Madge.

Same here. I'll be away for the next 3-4 hours by the way

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:48 pm UTC
by Sabrar
I think the slip I found and somitomi's remark about Madge not even attempting to look for B is quite enough, of course if you have additional stuff to discuss I'm open to hear you out. But I don't plan to change my vote.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:25 pm UTC
by somitomi
I don't think I have anything to add to the discussion, so ready when you are.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:27 pm UTC
by Sabrar
I'm okay with hammer, mpolo seems fine with it, maybe wait a bit to see if moody has anything to say? But based on his comment, doesn't seem so.

Re: Wams chaos game day 4 (Or the thread where sabrar talks to himself)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:42 pm UTC
by moody7277
Looks like we're all good.

Vote: Madge

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:07 pm UTC
by wam

Votals

Sabrar- 1 - madge
Madge - 4 - sabrar, mpolo, moody7277

Not voting: , somitomi

Madge is lynched end of day 4. Deadline is Sunday evening uk time as I'm busy all weekend.

Re: Wams chaos game day 3

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:37 pm UTC
by wam
wam wrote:

Madge is lynched end of day 4. Deadline is Sunday evening uk time as I'm busy all weekend.


I'm shattered so will start day tomorrow.

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:44 pm UTC
by Sabrar
chaos
Spoiler:
@wam: why do you do this to me...

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:42 am UTC
by wam
End of day 4 flavour

Madge had bee under suspicion for a while and it finally came to a head on day 4. You lined them up against the wall and were amazed to see the bullets bounce off. They went "I prefer to work alone anyway" and left the resort.

Madge was lynched, they were C huck Norris and a member of town

Start of day 5 flavour


You all gather for breakfast for some reason it feels much later than you expected. Looking round you all see that somitomi is missing examining thier room its full of weapons and other dangerous goods.

somitomi was killed they were Helen Mirren and a member of mafia B.

Mafia B has been eliminated.

It is now the start of day 5. 3 players alive, 3 votes to hammer.

Votals

Not voting: sabrar, mpolo, Moody7277.

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:43 am UTC
by Sabrar
Is Mafia B not eliminated?

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:45 am UTC
by wam
Sabrar wrote:Is Mafia B not eliminated?


Fixed.

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:46 am UTC
by Sabrar
Kill:mpolo:Arnold Schwarzenegger

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:47 am UTC
by Sabrar
I'm out of nk-s so literally the only way for me to win is to guess correctly. Might as well do it now.

Re: Wams chaos game night 4

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:48 am UTC
by wam
mpolo has been killed

Their role and alignment will not be revealed.