The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby wam » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:43 pm UTC

Bayeisan

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My plan is to claim a watcher along the same lines as madges tracker if pushed. Ironically the one I actually visited is Just_me not kalira.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:59 am UTC

TPP
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Madge wrote:I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post or not. I already complimented Misnomer in PM but I just want to say this game flavour and setup is beautiful and I feel privileged to be playing!


Yes! Looking like a dream Twitch Plays Pokémon game! My only regret is to not be playing, but, I should be specially useful if Anarchy wins, as I should be able to check the thread at least every half hour as long as I'm awake.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby ConMan » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:14 am UTC

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I voted anarchy because (a) it lets us do more things, and (b) it means that mafia can't sneakily collaborate to let the actions benefit them, like making Red use Helix on a scum member. After all, if there are more town than scum, then I can only assume that letting each player take n actions means that there will be more actions taken by town than scum.

Oh, and btw, I'm ATV the Venomoth! Go town! My ability is solely to enable others' (or at least make them unblockable)!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby firesoul31 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:42 am UTC

TPP
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I'm Burrito, scum lie-detector.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby eculc » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:33 am UTC

TPP
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So, I'm BirdJesus. Well, not really. I'm part of the mafia, and have the ability to be confirmed by the mod as Bird Jesus in-thread. So, close enough, right?
Um, this post feels devoid of content. Good luck?
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby dimochka » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:48 pm UTC

TPP
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Role: Abby, town cop.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:40 pm UTC

TPP

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I'm Air, the town roleblocker. Should be interesting, definitely. I'm really excited about this.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Misnomer » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:20 pm UTC

TPP
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Looks like it's Anarchy then - oh boy, this could be interesting. :P
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:28 am UTC

TPP
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Yeah, gotta say that Democracy winning would have been a bummer :P

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby eculc » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:40 am UTC

TPP
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now that I've actually read through the thread...wow. Talk about experimental.

I think anarchy might be advantageous to scumteam. Letting everyone else kill each other with PC releases might be nice, but I'm concerned about how the chaos might backfire.
Um, this post feels devoid of content. Good luck?
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby firesoul31 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:09 am UTC

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Why does eculc have two spoilers already?

SUSPICION
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby wam » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:03 pm UTC

Bayesian

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Come on adam call the deadline before the kalira bandwagon gets any more traction as otherwise I will be doing a lot of explaining in the night chat as to why i lead a badwagon on a scummate.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Suzaku » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:06 am UTC

Iliad
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FB was a gorram PGO?! Not happy!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby mpolo » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:12 am UTC

Suzaku wrote:Iliad
Spoiler:
FB was a gorram PGO?! Not happy!


Iliad
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Yeah, a one-shot PGO with one-shot death protection. (He's Achilles.) Sorry for the bad luck.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:15 am UTC

Iliad
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Surprised that Xenos actually flipped Mafia. Very nice catch USN! (I suspected it first, but I thought it'd have been something a townie could do.)

And if people suspect me for talking on this thread instead of posting on game thread:

I'M TOWN, YOU SEE? POSTING ONLY ON THIS THREAD ISN'T SCUMMY!

I'd probably go and babble about how I think Lataro is scum and how Adam looks bad for suspecting USN (who, I don't think there's a way in hell would have bused Xenos), and they're probably town. I'd also get attention to myself and risk getting lynched, as it happens. So, yup, letting others talk first.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Suzaku » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:15 am UTC

mpolo wrote:
Suzaku wrote:Iliad
Spoiler:
FB was a gorram PGO?! Not happy!


Iliad
Spoiler:
Yeah, a one-shot PGO with one-shot death protection. (He's Achilles.) Sorry for the bad luck.


Still Iliad
Spoiler:
Serves me right for using my wife as an RNG :)
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:25 am UTC

TPP
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Whoa! This is nerve wracking! Like, if I send a PM to the wrong person, or carry the wrong action or reveal something wrong in the game's flavor, I could ruin the whole game!

For the benefit of spectators, and, because I think this information should only be withheld from players, but not everyone else, I'll say the next action sent by wam, whatever it is, will take effect. So I'm all like "oh god, what will he send??"

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Misnomer » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:26 pm UTC

TPP
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2 observations so far...

1. I am VERY pleased that there's a decent split amongst the players over anarchy vs. democracy - was very anxious when designing the game that one system shouldn't be obviously better than the other. Of course, the net result is that both systems are probably equally unhelpful, but never mind :twisted:
2. While successful Red actions certainly have the potential to swing the game, I would personally say that they're something of a sideshow - if town wins, it'll most likely be down to good old-fashioned scum hunting and clever lynching rather than any of the gimmicks.

Also, very glad that the Strength typo got picked up early! Had anyone actually tried to use it, I think I would have had to leave it as a vig, which could have led to an absolute bloodbath of a game (though of course, it may still be a bloodbath anyway...) :wink:
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby UniqueScreenname » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:11 pm UTC

Iliad
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It appears I was accosted before I could investigate Lataro. I may have been roleblocked. It could have something to do with Lataro. Idk. I hate not getting results. :x
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby moody7277 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:13 pm UTC

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So with me being the only Trojan left, it looks like time to hand over the sword to Aeneas and see how many Greeks I can take with me to the underworld.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby dimochka » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:43 pm UTC

Iliad
Spoiler:
unfortunately i didnt pay attention to the deadline and didn't submit any actions last night (to add someone to my mason chat). And since DJ died, I've got no one to talk with.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Lataro » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:09 am UTC

illad:

Spoiler:
Double gamble.

I don't know for a fact that USN is town, it just seems very likely given the number of deaths last night, and the fact that I jailkept her.

Also, total made up role, sounds like a good one to put in the bank for another game though. The idea of a cop picking a target, and the results being sent to another player would be a great way of getting cop results out early without putting the cop on the spot.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Madge » Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:17 am UTC

TPP (twitch plays pokemafia)

Spoiler:
Just realised I haven't posted, nobody's posted, so I made a post (and then an extra additional post about politics)

I'm wondering why there's so little activity - we'll see what happens, I suppose.

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My safeclaim is Red, which is kind of annoying because it's a hard character to come up with a convincing fake power for; however, I guess I can just use my real power and claim to be using it for good. Heck, I'm half considering "using it for good" one night.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby UniqueScreenname » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:21 am UTC

Iliad
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Given Lataro's claim I see two options.

1. The person who knocked me out was a type of modified roleblocker who reverses the action taken. I copped Lataro, he targeted me, I get no results and Lataro gets an accurate cop result on me.

2. Lataro was the one who knocked me out, has some sort of investigation role, and revealed me as town to give himself townie points.

Basically if it was anybody other than Lataro, I would assume the first option. Lataro's too good for this game to be straightforward though.

Also, I don't know how much of this I should reveal. I am a cop with no results. It's not exactly wise to out myself for no reason. I could lie and say I have a one-shot, or maybe a series of one-shots, however I don't know which is worse, claiming cop or JOAT, and has anybody ever believed a one-shot claim when the game wasn't riddled with one-shots? Sigh. I don't know what to do yet, but I have to say something.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Misnomer » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:19 am UTC

TPP
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Hmmm, I wonder - has Madge deliberately posted misinformation about how democracy mode works, or is it a genuine misunderstanding? In any case, I shan't address it myself unless a player asks for mod clarification.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:11 pm UTC

TPP
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Anarchy is indeed going to look very bad if wam never sends a red action :O

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:38 pm UTC

TPP
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Thinking the low activity of the game because it started on a weekend is an exceptional circumstance and extension should be granted. I remember Scooby Mafia being hurt because of this. Strict Turbo limits were put in place when another mod was waiting in the queue for their Turbo to start, but this isn't currently the case, so mods have no need to force the game into the 21 days limit.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Misnomer » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:53 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:TPP
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Thinking the low activity of the game because it started on a weekend is an exceptional circumstance and extension should be granted. I remember Scooby Mafia being hurt because of this. Strict Turbo limits were put in place when another mod was waiting in the queue for their Turbo to start, but this isn't currently the case, so mods have no need to force the game into the 21 days limit.
TPP
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I may well grant an extension, but I don't want to do it just yet - and I certainly don't want to make it seem likely. Firstly, I think if I grant an extension now it makes it more likely that we'll remain at our current slow pace - I suspect the urgency of a more imminent deadline will speed things up a little.

Secondly, I thought wam's reasons for an extension were just a little rubbish tbh! :P posting may have been low, true, but they have a whole raft of political votes, Red actions, rolespec and several role hints to go on already - if anything, I'd say they have more information than players usually have ahead of a D1 lynch!
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:05 am UTC

I've decided, Mafia willing, that if all goes according to plan the World Powers Mafia should show itself sometime after Easter.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Misnomer » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:03 am UTC

TPP
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I'm an old softy at heart really. :wink:
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:41 am UTC

TPP
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Yay for Christmas ghosts!

Anyway, really worried about the viability of Anarchy, seems a single player can clog up the whole process, so Democracy can get a lot more done in the same time (at least 3 times as much, in this case). But let's see how Democracy goes, tomorrow...


Bayesian
Spoiler:
Whoa, can't believe I quit because one of the lynches was random, without noticing, until now that... everything is random! All the results that people get from other people depend of a random number, and it's there on the rules:

If the player is scum, X=Sqrt(rand())
If the player is town, X=1-Sqrt(rand())
where rand() is a random number between 0 and 1

And the game runs on that. Now my complain looks as silly as complaining there's a jester in a game called Jokers of Mafia XD

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby wam » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:28 am UTC

Bayesian

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Adam sorry if I have backed you into a corner here.
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:26 pm UTC

TPP
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Oh god, and it happened! When sending the PM to Madge, somehow, the message history of how I PM'd WilliamTheConqueror got at the bottom o_O - must be more careful when sending PMs (doesn't matter because she knows WilliamTheConqueror wasn't lying about the 9 townies remaining, but she would have known anyway - she still can see how WilliamTheConqueror asked if he was allowed to reveal that info, which Madge wasn't meant to see).

Anyway, Conman is next, Anarchy is quickly catching up, I wonder if I'll have to eat some of my words later (but, eh, at least the people changing their votes for Democracy would have to eat them too.)

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby bessie » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:35 pm UTC

Iliad

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I investigated Adam last night and received a cryptic prophecy, from which I was able to determine his role. So I guess that extra year as an undergrad so I could double major in astrophysics and classical civilization wasn't a total waste.

I think freezeblade is Achilles and is town. It would fit with the flavor as to why he can't vote for the Achaean night kill (Achilles is not participating in the war because of a disagreement with Agamemnon). And he mentioned he might be able to vote later in the game (maybe if Patroklus dies?). I would rather lynch someone else but I'm not sure who yet.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Deva » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:10 am UTC

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby New User » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:53 am UTC

Bayesian
Spoiler:
Wrong again about moody. Maybe. I lack confidence in my ability hunt scum, because I am so often wrong.

Now I think the scum team is mpolo, Kalira, and Suzaku. Maybe cemper93. I watched Madge and saw Suzaku with an 81% of having visited Madge during N2. Since Madge claims to have been roleblocked, that would make Suzaku a scum roleblocker. Now I need to think of a way to bait Suzaku into admitting something without revealing too much myself. If I just come right out and claim my results, he could falseclaim anything believable if he's scum. He could even just say that he didn't visit Madge at all, and my random numbers were the real culprit. But someone must have visited Madge besides myself, if she was indeed roleblocked. And Suzaku is the only one I have a result for.

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Vytron » Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:16 am UTC

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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby eculc » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:39 am UTC

TPP
Spoiler:
So, I have a one-shot cop. Who to use it on?
Um, this post feels devoid of content. Good luck?
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby kalira » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:02 pm UTC

Bayesian:

Spoiler:
REALLY, ADAM?? God, this is my first game as scum, and it really feels like it sucks for us. As I said in game, I prob wouldn't have signed up for this if I'd known about the work trip earlier, because not having time to post is not really something town accepts as an excuse.

However, there are so many investigative powers that the slightest of infractions gets you investigated, and I don't know what the RNG is doing right now other than killing me. Seriously, though... in actuality, I got a 9% scum probability on Madge last night. She's already had a 4%. And she got a 99% against me? ARGHHHHHHHHHH! These numbers cannot be reality, man!

(Side note: I'm not really angry at you, Adam, unless you're actually screwing around with the numbers, in which case I will hold a fiery grudge against you for a while. This is just damn frustrating, and we haven't even been able to make a NK yet. What is that even about??)
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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Postby Adam H » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:08 pm UTC

TPP
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Ah, the old town-pretending-to-be-jester-to-get-out-of-the-mislynch gambit. I'm not sure it's ever been tried. Well, there's a first time for everything! :D

Edit: *Shrug*
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