played his portion of the game much like he always does. Short posts, sometimes contentful, sometimes not, always appearing slightly scummy. He started with a bit of role spec, including the possibility the scum started as 1 + a recruit. After I FoS'd BXM, he voted (probably to make the point that FoS's are useless), but this could potentially be scum trying to start a 'wagon on someone who already had focus and suspicion on them, but he points this potential tactic out two posts later so I think that is unlikely.
Apologises for the FoS discussion dragging out. Feels that BigNose is playing like Newb scum, but doesn't want to lynch new players Day 1. Given that BigNose was town, i think this feels quite towny. Unvotes and votes Asmo for lurking, second to vote after Weeks. Again could be scum trying to start a wagon, especially if Asmo is town.
Az was analysed by F_C at this point who thought he was fairly neutral to slightly scummy, and asked him why he voted BXM. Az responded to this by saying it was because of BXM's reasoning behind his first vote for Will (which was that will said no scum, and BXM thought scum was possible). Not much here.
Responded to BigNose suggesting an analysis on a towny was a scumtell, by explaining the reasoning behind such an analysis. Then he suggests everyone posting a list of the players in order of suspicion. In retrospect I'm uncertain how useful this is (as Amy's list is so full of wine I'm feeling a bit tipsy just thinking about it). I think it's unlikely a scum would suggest such a list, however, as information is information, and information is good for town. Posts an Az-list:
Azrael001 wrote:I really hate lynching new players day one, but it seems likely that in this case it is justified.
5. Dr Ug
2. Not A Raptor
I'm not even going to wait for the points to be tallied.
Vote: Big Nose
Amy is actually up the scummy end, and from a meta point of view (as pointed out by VZ IIRC) she was mostly posting responses to other people's thoughts rather than de novo
analysis as is her usual play style. Also had weeks and BXM up towards scum (again, so did most of us). Interestingly, the 2nd through to 5th spots are filled with players who are still alive, and the only person more scummy on his list is asmodieus, presumably for lurking. Makes it difficult to read much into this list. Votes BigNose for his town-fail.
Accidentally reads a spoiler after the BigNose-hammer and asks for a replacement - Krong. In semi-summary I think Az was appearing relatively towny, however from a metagaming point of view I think Az tends to be scum when he appears to be town and town when he appears scummy. Onto Krong:Krong
jumps in with a greeting then asks Hendu if he will tell us the roles of the dead (which he didn't - although they're now both listed as "citizen" in the OP, so perhaps he changed his mind?).
Doesn't like my new playstyle (or perhaps the fact that I stated that I was doing it?). Sees it as a convenient smokescreen. Compares it to stating random voting, an analogy which I can see but I'm not certain I agree with. I'm still deciding whether this playstyle works or not. Votes for me to "get my attention", as he thinks I've been ignoring certain evidence in order to push my agenda. The evidence was that BigNose had accused almost everybody and I picked Sungura as his "Good lynch target". Whilst I can see this possibility, the fact that Amy turned out to be scum I would have thought negates this point. As an aside the main reason I picked his (BigNose's) final "target" was that he claimed he had a good reason to suspect someone, then after refusing to state who, and after we had put pressure on him, he accused Amy. I though perhaps this was his method to reveal his suspicion without actually stating it. I think it unlikely he really had evidence now, especially as the OP now states his role as "citizen", and Weeks didn't get his cop result until after BigNose was lynched (N1), so potential mason relationship between them wouldn't explain his "lynch candidate", even though it might have explained his reluctance to tell us about it.
Back to krong... (sorry if that ramble makes this difficult to read)... he then continued to disagree with my interpretation of weeks/bxm, and suggests that the argument about it has dragged on too long (like the FoS discussion) and we need to move on. After Weeks' cop claim asks if his sanity is in question.
Points out that a failed lynch means LYLO the next day. Now, this is an interesting statement
. At this point we were down to 10 players. If we assume 2 scum, and only 1 NK (which is all we had evidence of at that point), the next day we would be at 8 players. 2-6 is not LYLO (the day after with a mislynch is 2-4 which is LYLO), 3-5 on the other hand is LYLO, and makes me suspicious that krong had knowledge about the number of scum that the rest of us were missing. Krong: can you explain why you said we would be at LYLO if we had mislynched D2?
Votes Amy, forgets to unvote first and corrects this for either the 3rd or 5th vote depending on which one you count.
Interprets N2 activities to say that we don;t have a doctor, we probably have a Hutt / bounty hunter faction and that [obviously] there is a Sith master around. Suggests that if Sith had a recruit, perhaps it was limited to Jedi. This would certainly make sense from a flavour point of view, but in the light of the (possible) slip above, maybe trying to cover for that?
Expresses concern (after I did the same) about the lurking occuring. Retracts some of his suspicion on me, partly because of my analysis of Amy and partly because I'm being active.
Jumps back on to an FoS on me after Darkname's Vote, for me trying to lead a bandwagon on the two Jedi (as has been pointed all well and good to make this point in hindsight). Thinks we shouldn't let day drag on due to fear of another daykill. Whilst this fear may be well founded, any remotely active scum would be able to make use of their power before the hammer, (and the chance of >1 private daykill for scum + night kill in a game this small is pretty low IMO). I'm a little concerned at the idea of rushing a day.
Tries to see if BXM breadcrumbed a cop result, but can't find much other than a (very subtle if a true breadcrumb) bit about me being town. I really think this is reading a bit much into the BXM posts.
Thinks the discussion about my scumminess is getting nowhere and we need to change topic - so he analyses Asmo: Thinks he is lurky, but scummy from the content that is there, and a bit contradictory, especially in this post
(which I agree with), and votes for him. It was a fairly indepth analysis, so in and of itself fairly towny, but I can't shake this nagging suspicion...
Then a post about there probably being 2 Sith. Again this seems a bit contradictory with his post about possible LYLO on day 3 if a mislynch occured day 2. Asks for the OP to be updated with roles - which ended up being helpful in that we have now confirmed that D1/N1 deaths were both "citizen" (ie likely vanilla town).
Points out Amso's mistake when he said I said he lied about having an AP test. Asks for reasoning behind Asmo's finding me scummy, which he then does.
Thanks Asmo for posting content, notes conclusion is basically the same as ppl already thought (ie that I seem a bit scummy), but not enough to convince him that I am scum. Feels that I've made a few "I agree with Krong" statements, (one of which I've noticed on my rereading today). I must say this was not conscious, but just made when you wrote an analysis and I did in fact agree with your conclusions. Unvotes Asmo and is ninja'd by me (or so he claims). It was 11 minutes after I posted my unvote so definitely believable that it was a ninja, and quite a good ploy if he is scum and responded to my unvote. I think he really was ninja'd, and this makes me think he probably is town, as I agree that the town is being distracted by the argument between Asmo and myself.
When asked to give opinions of everybody gives a short post where he doesn't add much on the others (ie Will, mpolo and Darkname). I'd like a bit more in depth opinions.Summary:
I really don't like the suggestion that we would (not might be - would) be at LYLO on D3 if we mislynched D2, as we don't know how many scum there are. It could be a slip from a scum who knew there were 3 scum. However, the rest of his posting makes him seem towny. Az before him also appeared towny, but again Az appears towny when he is scum. Still definitely on my suspicious list, probably less suspicious than mpolo though.