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First off, I was specifically suggesting we DO NOT all post received emotion claims, unless it's something that really hurts town to keep hidden. I consider my emotion to be one of those, as it has an effect that spreads a bunch of mud which I'd like to keep as clean as possible. Some of the voting restrictions being claimed, if true, are also good to know about -- if you really have to votehop constantly, by all means tell us so we treat it as a neutral action rather than a scummy action.
Along the same lines, when BXM was pushing me for an animal claim, I'd say that we shouldn't claim until we (a) know keeping the information hidden will likely hurt town ("Hey guys, I'm a mutant raptorbear, miller.") or (b) have some idea of how Silknor assigns PyP roles. The latter point is particularly critical -- if someone picked Nurse Shark and Silknor isn't being terribly contrarian with his role assignments, we've just exposed that person as a doctor if we've hit a massclaim. Of course, they could lie to stay hidden, but that has the problem of confusing our rolecop.
Also, it's not like we're hurting for information or material to post here. That being said, I'm obviously willing to claim my role if there's a town consensus for a massclaim.
Finally, since Lataro seems to have missed it: I sent the emotion AMOROUS. I have the emotion PUNCTUAL. (Whether or not it's good for that information to be out there, it already is in my previous post... I see no strategic reason to rely on security by obscurity for those from now on.)
Regarding posting submitted emotion claims, there's a counter argument:
So what if everyone agreed to do this, and I submitted 'punctual'. And for the sake of the argument, I'm scum (I'm not
). Wouldn't I just claim something else, so you'd look bad?
Hm... yeah. I was looking forward to the idea of having some semi-confirmed, usually unbiased information out there so much that I forgot the "semi-" and "usually" parts. It's also got the reverse effect: If I say that I submitted X, and the person with X is scum and claims Y should we massclaim later, I end up looking bad. Even worse, we're pretty sure one of two people is lying, and only one of those choices is identified. It looks like rrwoods and ForAllOfThis have gone into this in a bit more detail, and I'd tend to agree with them now, though the idea of sitting on a half-finished list seems less than ideal, as well. :/
Now, as for player impressions... seems a bit early for this, but I'd rather do things this way than have pages of quote sniping:Lataro -
Has claimed jovial, posting style seems to fit, what with the lack of typical Lataro meta-voting and his smiley-accompanied complaints about it. Has claimed a voting restriction that won't have to make any "risky" votes, i.e. hammers or starting wagons. Seems neutral on these points.
However, has also been pushing quickly and strongly for full emotion-claims, threatening anyone who doesn't comply with a lynch. Essentially ignores strategy arguments raised against it; at one point compares ability claiming to Dethy, which is a seriously flawed comparison (what with it not being open, the likelihood of unequal town powers, etc.). When Lataro's ignoring something, it's usually not for a good reason. Moderately scummy.Elvish Pillager -
Has claimed survivor. I'm moderately suspicious of this right now, but that has more to do with my own misgivings as to optimal survivor strategy after <outside-of-game>Nikc's early survivor claim seemed to hurt him in an IRC game last night. Voting restriction is not likely to help town if true, a good way to hide if false. Nothing stands out from posts beyond that. Probably safe indy, but also a reasonable lynch target.Misnomer -
Has claimed "avenging"... I'm having mild lyncher or bomb worries. Not much to go on beyond that.Dark Loink -
Is posting poems? Inactive otherwise, though maybe excusable due to recent massive Dune post. Need some explanation for the poetry from him.Krong -
Me. Leaning anti-mod, though my opinion is changing.mpolo -
Unhelpful vote restriction; his discussion has mostly been about that. Dwelling on that seems slightly scummy to me.Martin -
Err... I can't find any posts from him, but I could swear there was a short one somewhere. Well, he needs to post more, at any rate.
(Running into my deadline, less specifics from here on...)existential_elevator -
Only thing I remember is an uneasiness with the amount of info being thrown around, which seems townie.RoadieRich -
Probably the only person claiming post restrictions that's making them look fun
Leaning townie for the content, as well.djkjr -
Don't remember any posts from djkjr._infina_ -
Indecipherable as always, probably a bit less active than usual.greenlover -
Not much content yet, other than a sent/got emotion claim.ForAllOfThis -
Haven't been in a game with you yet, but you seem to be pretty active so far. Thinking townie.ahippo -
Is a submissive hippo? Seems like a lot of claiming without much posting yet. Unsure.weiyaoli -
Neutral to townie. Spent a bit of time enforcing claimed post restrictions already, which is a good idea.Mavketl -
Posts look good so far, but not quite to the point of "Mav the Super Townie" yet. Will see if she gets there; she doesn't really give herself away as scum otherwise. (Kinda harsh to demand that from her, I know, but I think it's generally worked so far
) roband -
Posting a whole lot. So far, posts look pretty townie as well.Brooklynxman -
A bit annoyed that he asked me to animal-claim when, as far as I'm aware, he hadn't done so first. Claimed a vig is present in the game due to the emotion he submitted, which is an interesting bit of information. Haven't yet decided how to interpret that, whether it's true or false.Dr Ug -
Leaning town on him this game for once; seems to be considering the situation rather than pushing it. Replaced in, I think.rrwoods -
Replaced in, hasn't had time yet to act weird and make me think he's scum. Has claimed knowledge of a weird post restriction for someone else that we should be on the lookout for.
I don't see any reason not to vote now, especially since I won't have many chances to do so before the deadline. So, given his pushing an argument to the point of oversimplifying it and ignoring the merits of others' arguments:Vote: Lataro
Finally, in case it needs to be said: I have no voting restrictions.
The answer to the question "What’s wrong with the world?" is just two words: "I am." -- G. K. Chesterton (attributed)