BoomFrog wrote: fearless wrote:
12. fearless - suggests to self-investigate in a trying not to actually push for it way - scummy
wtf First of all I did not /suggest/ it - I was not the first person to bring up the self-investigation. I said just because we are not /guaranteed/ to have sane roles, it does not mean that they are necessarily insane. And from the wiki page, it is likely that the cop is sane based on her character in the series. o_O
I think this suggests that the cop is sane. I suppose it doesn't hurt to investigate oneself first and I don't think there are rules against targeting oneself. Still, I'd rather that we don't waste an investigation.
You say "it doesn't hurt" and then you say why it would hurt, aka "waste an investigation." which is a pretty big deal when we only get 2-4 investigations per cop generally.
And you didn't suggest it. The person who suggests a dumb idea is usually asking an innocent question. It's the people who support a dumb idea that I'm worried about.
The first sentence: because it's not up to me to decide whether to self-investigate or not. That decision is up to the cop. and if he/she is paranoid about the role, then the self-investigation would help clear a lot of wine later on.
The second sentence: I'm saying it is what *I* would do under the circumstances because *I* don't believe the cop role is insane. But that is not to say the cop holds the same view as me.
This sounds like a subtle attempt to get us to lynch the easiest target (the newbie) and ignore you. So far, it seems like most people think you're the scummiest, so such an attempt would make sense. We've addressed the one day grace period for newbies to give them a chance to figure out a strategy, but several of us have also told Carey that we'll lynch them if their behavior is the same tomorrow. Thus, I think your point is nothing more than trying to distance yourself from a scum role and propagate a lynch. Why would you do that? Because you're scum.
Really, you seem to be the scummiest overall, based on how you've changed your strategy a couple times and things like the above. Seeing as right now, I think you are most likely to be scum, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and
Look, I got prodded by the mod for inactivity so I was just trying to throw some ideas out.
I didn't vote for carey nor did I FoS him. I merely pointed out that having a town who mostly displays scum-like behaviour isn't benefical to town - and let's not forget how he faded in the 2 of 4 game...
I didn't "come to his defense". I said "IF he were town...".
Also, projection much? How was I distancing myself from a scum role? Please explain.
Propagate a lynch? I neither voted nor FoS'd. If anything, YOU are the person propagating a lynch bandwagon here, not me.
I don't even have a strategy. I've only posted like, 3 times, and I've been consistent in all of my posts.
I only brought up the jester thing again because I was asked.
I don't like fearless' defense. We can't be sure Elisa Maza is in play or, if she is, is the only cop. Boomfrog has now made it look likely there is more than one. It seems like you want to leave enough doubt if a positive scum result comes back on you to call the cop insane.
Ninja'd by CaptainFinglass. I never really considered the one day grace period a rule everyone was going to abide by. However, it did make me realize I don't like the phrasing of that quote. He didn't say "why keep a newbie that acts scummy around (since they could actually be scum)?" but "why keep a townie that acts scummy around?". This makes me think he knows he's a townie and is trying to use him as an easy target.
Why would Eliza NOT be in play? She was a main character... I don't think we would have many cops in a game this size... I thought this crazy idea was ruled out already.
Secondly it's a projection. In the sentence prior to that, I said the newbieness doesn't necessarily make him scum. So obviously the logical follow-through of that would be to contemplate "what if he's town?"... Like, seriously, I don't understand how some of you read meaning into things.