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Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:01 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
How's this for a solution: just add a little tiny "k" after the number of Calories listed on US food labels. Or imagine it's there for existing labels.

Voila, average Americans who don't know the difference can keep reading it like they always have (ignoring the k), and the pedants and Europeans who are used to kilocalories can take note of the "k" and read the values as three orders of magnitude larger to get the same understanding, and everything's dandy.

At least until some set of semi-literate people start thinking that food energy is now being measured in kilobytes or kilometers or some other kilo-unit informally abbreviated to just "k" without the base unit adjacent.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:57 am UTC
by Sunrider
I did some reading. In Europe, people often call kcals calories because they don't know *hit about scientific units. But in the USA, there are two different legal units called calorie.

No offense, but this is one of the 5 most stupid things I ever heard about.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:23 pm UTC
by Flumble
Sunrider wrote:No offense, but this is one of the 5 most stupid things I ever heard about.

Why do people say "no offense" precisely when they do offend?
Are you scared of being picked at because you acknowledge that units of measurement in the (non-academical) US are still centuries behind the rest of the world? :twisted:


gmalivuk wrote:Due to the confusion this apparently causes for our European readers, I move that US food labels be changed to the unambiguous BTU.

There's only one disadvantage to that: BTU is composed of imperial units, so it would make sense to use it. We can't have that.
I advise the use of horsepower-second instead.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:21 pm UTC
by Klear
Flumble wrote:
Sunrider wrote:No offense, but this is one of the 5 most stupid things I ever heard about.

Why do people say "no offense" precisely when they do offend?
Are you scared of being picked at because you acknowledge that units of measurement in the (non-academical) US are still centuries behind the rest of the world? :twisted:


I think the "no offense" is short for "offending someone isn't my primary concern here, I just find it funny" here.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:27 pm UTC
by Sunrider
Flumble wrote:Are you scared of being picked at because you acknowledge that units of measurement in the (non-academical) US are still centuries behind the rest of the world? :twisted:


Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down? We do, we do!

The Simpsons: All you need to explain the world.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:37 pm UTC
by gmalivuk
Flumble wrote:I advise the use of horsepower-second instead.
Which makes exactly as much or little sense as the (kilo)watt-hour.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:12 pm UTC
by Fysik Breddning
gmalivuk wrote:
Flumble wrote:I advise the use of horsepower-second instead.
Which makes exactly as much or little sense as the (kilo)watt-hour.

I once heard that the "kilowatt-hour per hour" was used in a certain power plant (and not in the short form "kilowatt").

However, I don't quite remember the circumstances and it might just have been a joke.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:38 pm UTC
by Quizatzhaderac
I could just about believe a manager asked for a report about the plant's bill-ables (kW*h) over a period much longer than an hour, with he x-axis scaled in units of a thousand to make the numbers smaller. The end result being some poor engineer having to label an axis "thousands of kilowatt hours per week".

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:13 pm UTC
by lgw
Bah, use the standard unit - the Firkin-Fahrenheit. All proper standard units start with an "F", of course (but not the converse: the fuckton remains non-standard; stuffy overly-proper standards committee!).

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:39 pm UTC
by ghlargh
I just did a google search for "15 dinosaurs live here" and got zero hits, i'm disappointed in you.

I had expected at least three restaurants to have their signs altered by now :P

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:47 pm UTC
by Klear
ghlargh wrote:I just did a google search for "15 dinosaurs live here" and got zero hits, i'm disappointed in you.

I had expected at least three restaurants to have their signs altered by now :P


Congrats! There's one hit now.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:14 pm UTC
by mathmannix
Klear wrote:Congrats! There's one hit now.


Now there's two. I didn't quote the whole thing, so still just two.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:50 pm UTC
by Red Hal
lgw wrote:Bah, use the standard unit - the Firkin-Fahrenheit. All proper standard units start with an "F", of course (but not the converse: the fuckton remains non-standard; stuffy overly-proper standards committee!).
Is that a metric fuckton?

Related: If we do decide to start offering deep-fried T Rex burgers, there is only one product to use.
Spoiler:
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Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:04 pm UTC
by gcgcgcgc
An 80kg human actually contains about 1.718 x 10^15 kcal of energy. But luckily, however unlikely it is you'll be eaten by a T.Rex, being thrown by one into a black hole is considerably less likely again, I assume.

Re: What-If # 0078 T-Rex Calories

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:37 am UTC
by Maxsimal
According to the shirt, the 'average' human listed there is

80kg, w 20/kg of bodyfat. 25% bodyfat - I guess this is an average western civilization person?

Disregarding that, they also have 1.2kg of carbs and 13.6kg of protein. These macronutrient amounts seem reasonable.

However
20 x 9000kcal/kgfat + 13.6 x 4000kcal/kg protein + 1.2kg x 4000kcal/kg = 239200kcal.

So the shirts total is clearly wrong, and a T-rex could survive on a human for almost a week!