1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:03 pm UTC

Barrel time, Cueball?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TheMinim » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:09 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Barrel time, Cueball?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:12 pm UTC

Blindpost from NP 809:

Here is the Chronicle of Firsts taken up as far as NP 50.

This was, and is, an interesting exercise. As with all historical research, I had to grapple with a dilemma, or perhaps inevitable tendency: reading the past through the lenses of the present.

I know how the story's come out -- so far -- and so will tend to overlook things that seemed to lead in other directions to the one we've taken: to take a Whiggish, progress-centred view, in other words. How to avoid this, and construe the past in its own terms? Should one even try, or should one concede the impossibility of, as Ranke put it, reconstructing the past "as it really was"? (Not to mention the naiveté of such a wish).

Well, no chance of resolving such a debate (possibly a sterile one anyway) here and now. But I have taken some care to avoid anachronism. For example, to NP 50, the phrase "One True Comic" hadn't been coined, still less "One True Thread." So in this portion of the Chronicle, I refer only to the Comic and the Thread.

I haven't including post numbers in this Chronicle, but will make them available whenever I upload this to the wiki.

This is very much a work in regress progress, and I make no claim to its being final or definitive. Which is as much as to say: I stand, or rather Wait, to be corrected.

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16 Trebuchet (prediction of)
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18 Beach not sand (cornstarch)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Hey, 200th post! Time for another rock 'n' roll offering to celebrate!

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It's interesting. For me personally, I just filk songs which I like, whatever they may be. That's why I sometimes filk well-known things, but sometimes things nobody's ever heard of :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:32 pm UTC

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CasCat wrote:I notice that the rock has a trail behind it. Like the beesnake. Does that mean that the trail/train/tail of the beesnake is just a graphic by Randall showing its loopy zigzag path, and not an actual trail, but an afterimage-of-movement, so to speak?

I think the beesnake isn't a beesnake at all; just a moving bug.
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mscha wrote:I think that's what most of us were already assuming. (I was, at least.)
It's a bit [heresy]inconsistent[/heresy], though: why doesn't Cuegan leave a trail? They must move visibly in the time a beesnake takes to leave its trail...
Agreed. Even the bird, moving at a probably faster speed doesn't leave a trail.

I think beesnakes leave a trail, to denote their chaotic paths. Cuegan doesn't leave a trail, because they go straight from one place to another, but the beesnakes go Family Circus style, so need a trail. So, yeah, I'm in the 'just a bug' camp. (Unless it's some bug that pulls in its tail when it lands.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:34 pm UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Hey, 200th post! Time for another rock 'n' roll offering to celebrate!

Happy 200th!

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ucim wrote:@BlitzGirl: Nice C.O.M.A. filk! I wonder what it is that makes a song more (or less) likely to be filked. I'm sure the distribution of filk versions is decidedly non-uniform over originals.

It's interesting. For me personally, I just filk songs which I like, whatever they may be. That's why I sometimes filk well-known things, but sometimes things nobody's ever heard of :P

When I filk, it's most likely an evergreen – mainly since I barely know anything that was made in the 21st century. Image

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mscha wrote:I think that's what most of us were already assuming. (I was, at least.)
It's a bit [heresy]inconsistent[/heresy], though: why doesn't Cuegan leave a trail? They must move visibly in the time a beesnake takes to leave its trail...
Agreed. Even the bird, moving at a probably faster speed doesn't leave a trail.

I think beesnakes leave a trail, to denote their chaotic paths. Cuegan doesn't leave a trail, because they go straight from one place to another, but the beesnakes go Family Circus style, so need a trail. So, yeah, I'm in the 'just a bug' camp. (Unless it's some bug that pulls in its tail when it lands.)

Or it's some kind of time-traveling bug, that leaves an echo of itself in places where it has been in the past few seconds. Therefore, when it sits still, you see a simple bug, and when it moves, you see a beesnake.
That's what I get when I apply Occam's razor, but I might have assembled it incorrectly...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flado » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:39 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:46 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:02 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:07 pm UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Hey, 200th post! Time for another rock 'n' roll offering to celebrate!

Happy 200th! These are possibly the best looking boobies I ever saw!

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Just wait for it with Time in your heart,
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You'll never wait alone.

Just wait for it with Time in your heart,
and you'll never wait alone...
You'll never wait alone.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:14 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Image
Wait, what?

Randamn it, Cueball, can't you put some antecedents with your pronouns?

(I don't know why I expected any better, what with Wait for it.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fhorn » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:18 pm UTC

mscha wrote:You'll never wait alONGe...
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I don't think this one has been done yet...

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Just wait by the sea¹,
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when you feel you're on your own.

Just wait for it with Time in your heart,
and you'll never wait alone...
You'll never wait alone.

Just wait for it with Time in your heart,
and you'll never wait alone...
You'll never wait alone.


mscha wrote:When I filka, it's most likely an evergreen – mainly since I barely know anything that was made in the 21st century. Image

a: which apparently nobody notices


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:28 pm UTC

@mscha - your filk, good. I don't know the tune, but I imagined it as "Downtown" and it worked fine. hehe.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fhorn » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:34 pm UTC

Kabuthunk wrote:Sweet sassy mollassy, this topic has grown crazy massive. Last time I posted (late April), the thread was about 400 pages long. It's over double that now. Crazy.

At least there's a number of sites I can use to watch the progress every so often.


Now I want people's posts to start with "sweet sassy mollassy."

BlitzGirl wrote:Randamn it Sweet sassy molassy, Cueball, can't you put some antecedents with your pronouns?

yappobiscuits wrote:Hey Sweet sassy molassy, 200th post! Time for another rock 'n' roll offering to celebrate!

SBN wrote:Wait Sweet sassy molassy, what?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:36 pm UTC

IFIWF*:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:48 pm UTC

Cheers BlitzGirl! Nice to see someone clearing up after Cueball's grammatical mess :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:52 pm UTC

I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:58 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:IFIWF*:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:00 pm UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Molpy molpy molpy molpy...

Just discovered this. It's now the soundtrack to my morning ketchup...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:02 pm UTC

ucim wrote:I see you're starting on the Evil Overlord stuff right away... heresy against the One True Author... DRACOMAX! You know what to do.

Now let's see... shall it be the soft, melted chocolate, or the pepperoni pizza... decisions, decisions.

All of the above, please. :D It shall be my evil feast.

mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

I think, though I'm not sure about this, that Cueball is referring to the depth of the canyon itself (brink to water surface) and not the depth of the body of water below. Again, antecedents would help.

Also, my quick-and-dirty mathing suggests that the waterfall is approximately 24.4q high (42.75m / 140ft)H. But I'm probably not the best one to do that calculation, being the English major. *rants again about antecedents*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:03 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:07 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

I think, though I'm not sure about this, that Cueball is referring to the depth of the canyon itself (brink to water surface) and not the depth of the body of water below. Again, antecedents would help.

Also, my quick-and-dirty mathing suggests that the waterfall is approximately 24.4q high (42.75m / 140ft)H. But I'm probably not the best one to do that calculation, being the English major. *rants again about antecedents*

But ...
Megan wrote:It could be even deeper.
We don't know how far down the water goes.

I interpreted that as: she's wondering about the depth of the canyon up to the bottom om the river. But she might indeed have been talking about not knowing how far the wowterfall falls. (You're the English major, I'm just a maths major, so you've probably got it right. ;) )
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:09 pm UTC

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yappobiscuits wrote:Molpy molpy molpy molpy...

Just discovered this. It's now the soundtrack to my morning ketchup...

Wheeee molpy molpy molpy molpy :D Image
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:10 pm UTC

Megan wrote:But then, a river couldn't cut all the way through a mountain, either.
Because, how would it get started?

That's not a bad question, Megan. IIRC, it was long a mystery why the Colorado goes right through the Colorado Plateau (through the Grand Canyon) instead of around it. (Answer, I believe: the plateau rose up while the river was already flowing there, as slowly as the the river was cutting the canyon.)

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yappobiscuits wrote:Molpy molpy molpy molpy...

Just discovered this. It's now the soundtrack to my morning ketchup...

Wheeee molpy molpy molpy molpy :D Image

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fhorn » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:19 pm UTC

Stuff with which to pelt... didn't know if the supply in the back of the cave was getting low/stale/eaten.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:20 pm UTC

Hey, who needs a math(s) major when you can do it the old-fashioned way?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:27 pm UTC

So... they're standing at about 24.4q above the river³. (Or 25 according to Earthling on Mars, if I counted correctly.)
Is anyone from the catography department present? How high have they climbed since they left the river³? And since they left the the sea¹?
(Edfel's map⁴⁷⁸ could use some contour lines, perhaps...)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:37 pm UTC

mscha wrote:<snip>
I interpreted that as: she's wondering about the depth of the canyon up to the bottom om the river. But she might indeed have been talking about not knowing how far the wowterfall falls. (You're the English major, I'm just a maths major, so you've probably got it right. ;) )

I'm never as right as I think I am. :wink: What we need here is context. To the Dialogue!

Cueball: I guess the land goes up, but the River stays at the same level.
Megan: The River has been going up, too. But not as fast as the land. Can water really wear away rock like this?
Cueball: I guess it can.
Megan: I can't imagine how long it must have taken.
Cueball: Yeah... *picks up rock* A lot of these rocks are pretty crumbly. Even down there, between all the big rocks, the cliff walls look sandy. Water eats away sand pretty fast.
Megan: Yeah. *Cueball drops rock, they watch it fall* I wonder how deep it gets.
Cueball: Maybe it goes right through the mountain, and it's as deep as the mountain is tall.
Megan: It could be even deeper. We don't know how far down the water goes.
Cueball: Hmm. I guess it can't be much deeper than the surface of the Sea. If it were, it wouldn't flow fast and cut into the ground.
Megan: Oh. Yeah. But then, a River couldn't cut all the way through a mountain, either. Because how would it get started?



Okay, now I've taken a little creative license and "translated" the Dialogue to make it easier for me to understand.

Cueball: The land rises in elevation, but the River doesn't. It seems to be at around the same elevation it was when we first saw it.
Megan: The River has been rising in elevation, too, but not as quickly as the land has been rising in elevation. Can water erode rock like this?
Cueball: Apparently so.
Megan: It must have taken a long Time.
Cueball: The rocks are pretty soft, and probably easy to erode.
Megan: I wonder how deep the canyon gets.
Cueball: Perhaps the canyon goes right through the mountain. In which case, the canyon would be as deep as the mountain is tall.
Megan: The canyon could be even deeper if you include the depth of the River.
Cueball: The canyon can't go much deeper than Sea level, though. If it were deeper than Sea level, the water in the River wouldn't have as much potential energy, and would not be flowing as rapidly as it is. It also would not have to erode the land to get down to Sea level.
Megan: Sure. But how could a canyon form in the middle of a mountain? Rivers choose the path of least resistance, and flow through lower elevations. Why would it try cutting straight through a mountain?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:50 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:51 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:10 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:16 pm UTC

Angua wrote:New Ong
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Complete and utter bollocks, Cueball. Sandstone doesn't look sandy unless you know it is.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:25 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
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azule wrote:But the point was people know cliche and not trope (as was my knowledge base, long ago), and that was how it is best to explain the realm of tropes is through that comparison. Though, yeah, I was originally bringing up a wholly unrelated topic: vocab, lexicon, whatever it is. I probably should have tried looking it up to get a clearer definition.

Trope, cliché, stereotype, archetype, pattern. If people start adding "just a" to trope, then it will be indistinguishable from cliché ("oh, that's just a trope").

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Well, we gotta have standards!

There are good arguments either way, and (IMHO) neither method is inherently worse. Similarly the question of whether a post should be editable could also easily go either way. However, once one method is chosen, this creates expectations in the reader, and reading is smoother if the agreed-upon standard is mostly adhered to. (I will also note that there are good arguments for not choosing, but that is not a choice we got to make.)

Posts here come with quite a bit of overhead: the header, the icons, the signature, the sidebar statistics, and they occupy space and slow down the reading. So, consider it a form of organic data compression. :)
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If double posting was such a bad thing the forum software could delay publishing a post until the last poster had a different name. It's not rocket science. Similarly, red text could be turned blue if the poster wasn't an admin.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:30 pm UTC

Exodies wrote:If double posting was such a bad thing the forum software could delay publishing a post until the last poster had a different name. It's not rocket science. Similarly, red text could be turned blue if the poster wasn't an admin.
By now you should have started to get the picture. These sort of rules aren't designed to improve matters for anyone, but to demonstrate that WE WILL OBEY.

Deliberate, or a convenient coincidence that this was a double post?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:32 pm UTC

Blitzgirl wrote:So from what I can tell, we were both right. And two rights make a U-turn into oncoming traffic, as the saying goes.


Sigged!

And they sure have been talking about the river for a while, which is cool. The more dialogue the better. Perhaps they will come to some epiphany about the rising sea soon.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:33 pm UTC

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Post, then ONG. Besides, they ONGed while they were talkONG.

It is absurd to remark that there is something that you can't imagine being the cause of something you aren't aware has happened.


If you think that's bad, just wait until some OtherPersonInThe OTC explains to them how the giant canyons in the Western USA were pretty much carved in a couple days after a humungous ice-dam broke and spilled a great-lake-sized volume of water all at once. None of this "little river wears a spec of rock each day" stuff for us cowboys!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:35 pm UTC

ergman wrote:
Blitzgirl wrote:So from what I can tell, we were both right. And two rights make a U-turn into oncoming traffic, as the saying goes.


Sigged!

Doesn't work so well in the UK, though
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby poxic » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:37 pm UTC

Works fine there, too. You just have to do a bit more or less than 180o.
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Re: 1190: "Time" Rising and Falling Action

Postby Exodies » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:40 pm UTC

ttscp wrote:A second reason is a feeling that corresponds to what the theater types call rising and falling action. Think of a triangle with a horizontal base. In a five act ShakespeareS play, the point of the triangle is generally in the third act, the action rising toward that point and then falling afterwards.M

Movies skew the triangle toward the right, speeding down the slope toward the conclusion. That might distort my analysis a little. If this really were a term paper, I'd analyze a representative sample of movies, plays and books to determine more exactly how much skew and how it afffected the prediction.A

My feeling may simply come from Cuegan climbing into the hills and so they could be at the highest point of their journey. There are some novels and plays that literally chart the rising/falling action (Charlie's IQ in Flowers for Algernon). I don't think any author consciously intends that, but the symbolic value may be too strong for the subconscious to resist.L

At the midpoint you expect a more definite turning point, but since we have only two characters who speak, and there's not much conflict between them, I"m going with the visual.

Yes you're prolly right. But what on earth is rising and falling action?
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