1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon May 27, 2013 8:47 pm UTC

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That, or he's setting it up to make a point about the wildlife later. Or to make it seem more realistic and alive. All of which could be true.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon May 27, 2013 8:48 pm UTC

The snake will try to eat Megan but the squirrel will come to her rescue. Or not, and we're back to the Petit Prince and a hat which is a snake with Megan inside.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby LeahLemur » Mon May 27, 2013 8:51 pm UTC

Exodies wrote:
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charlie_grumbles wrote:
LeahLemur wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:And of course, the English translation (from the Bulgarian) is
Slonobikozabesto grabadabar
Sorry, I don't catch that. Say it again?


Well, it is Bulgarian, but it's kind of a nonsense-word (I'd put supercalifragilisticexpialadocious in the same category).
If you think it's a tongue-twister, wait til you hear some other Bulgarian words (not to mention tongue-twisters). I grew up with it and still can't pronounce some of them :D


So is Slonobikozabesto grabadabar the phonetic (more or less) translation?

Hmmm. Answer and you hit 5. Time to think up a clever siggy.


Yeah, it's how you could try to pronounce it. Of course, the autocorrect (don't remember which step that came in) cut off half the word, so it should actually be "slonobikozabesto nagrabadabarche" which would be the diminutive if that word had any connection to human grammar.

And of course, I don't really have a choice in what my sig would be, do I? Since ^that was what pulled me out of lurk-ketchup-blitz-mode :D

edit: typo (hat -> had). I'm apparently obsessed with hats already...

Wasn't it Bulgarian alphabet day last Friday?


Actually, it was Cyrillic Alphabet day, which (may or may not have been) invented by (one or two of) two guys who (may or may not be defined as) Bulgarian, depending on your stance on whether Greece, Macedonia or Bulgaria is the (most important, ruling and) biggest part of the Empire those guys lived in for the part of their lives when they weren't in Rome or with the Tatar kings in today's Hungary.

So you see how the Balkans got their Problems :)

Aw, now I've poured confusion all over our whimsy. Lemme clean that up with a more concise response:

Yes, yes indeed it was.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Reka » Mon May 27, 2013 8:54 pm UTC

I don't think that's a snake. I think it's the bushy-tailed tree rat being sneaky. See, Megan, I *told* you not to feed those things.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Mon May 27, 2013 8:55 pm UTC

I wonder whether the molpython ate the squirpy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon May 27, 2013 8:55 pm UTC

LeahLemur wrote:Aw, now I've poured confusion all over our whimsy. Lemme clean that up with a more concise response:

Yes, yes indeed it was.


And we're nothing here, if not concise.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Mon May 27, 2013 9:02 pm UTC

LeahLemur wrote:
Exodies wrote:
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LeahLemur wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:
LeahLemur wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:And of course, the English translation (from the Bulgarian) is
Slonobikozabesto grabadabar
Sorry, I don't catch that. Say it again?


Well, it is Bulgarian, but it's kind of a nonsense-word (I'd put supercalifragilisticexpialadocious in the same category).
If you think it's a tongue-twister, wait til you hear some other Bulgarian words (not to mention tongue-twisters). I grew up with it and still can't pronounce some of them :D


So is Slonobikozabesto grabadabar the phonetic (more or less) translation?

Hmmm. Answer and you hit 5. Time to think up a clever siggy.


Yeah, it's how you could try to pronounce it. Of course, the autocorrect (don't remember which step that came in) cut off half the word, so it should actually be "slonobikozabesto nagrabadabarche" which would be the diminutive if that word had any connection to human grammar.

And of course, I don't really have a choice in what my sig would be, do I? Since ^that was what pulled me out of lurk-ketchup-blitz-mode :D

edit: typo (hat -> had). I'm apparently obsessed with hats already...

Wasn't it Bulgarian alphabet day last Friday?


Actually, it was Cyrillic Alphabet day, which (may or may not have been) invented by (one or two of) two guys who (may or may not be defined as) Bulgarian, depending on your stance on whether Greece, Macedonia or Bulgaria is the (most important, ruling and) biggest part of the Empire those guys lived in for the part of their lives when they weren't in Rome or with the Tatar kings in today's Hungary.


A friend of mine, something of a Bulgarian nationalist, will stoutly insist that the Cyrillic alphabet is a Bulgarian invention, full stop. I've never asked him to elaborate, fearing not only that I'd be told more about Bulgarian history than I (and even possibly some Bulgarians) had ever wanted to know, but that I might actually be tested on it later.

But I always suspected the history was more complicated, and less certain, than my friend let on. Thanks for confirming it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TheMinim » Mon May 27, 2013 9:04 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon May 27, 2013 9:06 pm UTC

Angelastic wrote:I wonder whether the molpython ate the squirpy.

It'd have a Squirpy-sized bump, no?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Mon May 27, 2013 9:07 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:09 pm UTC

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Not sure why, but it was doing that load-everything-but-the-image thing for me again for a few minutes. Attempting to load time.png directly from the imgs server gave me a "no data received." Perhaps there's some server hiccups again.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:10 pm UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:I think it is a molpython, actually.


Ooh, I like that. It fits whether it's a snake or a very long series of individual molpies in succession.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby bmonk » Mon May 27, 2013 9:11 pm UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:
mscha wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
SBN wrote:
mscha wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:I don't think Cuegan can be that lost; they seem to have been following the Riverfootnote.

footnoteI can't remember what number the "pretty neat" footer is supposed to be.

That's a bit annoying, we now have competing footnote standards. Could be ³, could be ⁵, depending on which standard you're following. :?
Edit: of course, this is how we fix that. ;)

Finally, the footnotes are meeting the OTT standard of multiple, confusing standards.

Good. Good. It is happening as planned.

I think we can create one encompassing standard based on the three incompatible ones.
We simply prefix each footnote with (o) for Opibole's standard, (a) for airdrik's, and (m) for mine. (m)3, huh?

And then there were four...

This is starting to remind me of that ST:TNG episode where an entire planet spoke only in historical allusions used as metaphors for current events. In a hundred NP or so, you and Opiboble and SBN will be able to carry on entire OTT conversations just with footnote markings.

Conversely, I'm wondering how long it will take before we have 15 competing footnote standards. . . .
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby bmonk » Mon May 27, 2013 9:19 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby bmonk » Mon May 27, 2013 9:21 pm UTC

AK49BWL wrote::shock: :shock: What have I done... The Outside ate me alive. I must resist skipping 106 Newpages!! :shock:


Help.....me.........

Me too. But I only have about 68 to go.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Mon May 27, 2013 9:41 pm UTC

I was just idly haiku-hunting in the works of Lewis Carroll (in descending order of popularity on Project Gutenberg, not up to the maths books yet), and I found this one:

'Well, a "RATH" is a
sort of green pig: but "MOME" I'm
not certain about.

Silly Lewis Carroll. Don't you know a mome is a female pope?

Edit: This was my 299th post. I posted my 300th in an OtherThread, so I missed a chance to improperly celebrate.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:41 pm UTC

Coma left me six pages behind. I've gone through four so far. A little tension here, but hopefully BG's flameproofing insignia will help.

Throwing a firstpost forward:
Shanman wrote:
Spoiler:
Somehow this post didn't get posted or something, sorry! Thank goodness for the Lazarus Add-on, it saved everything from a few hours ago when I posted.

I've been sort of following this thread for a while. I read the first 60 pages or so and then just checked in occasionally. It's been a very helpful companion to keeping an eye on Time itself. (I've been keeping the comic, the map, the list of periods from the wiki, the Aubronwood image viewer, and this thread open for the past few weeks.) So thank you for the company.

I noticed you discussing the drafting of Tarot cards. I took a passing interest in them last summer and did some curiosity research. For the Tower (XVI) I think it'd be best to make it the sand castle as the water is rising, given that it's the card which symbolizes dramatic and inevitable change.

Anyways, maybe I'll comment again down the line, but for now I just enjoy reading along. One question though: why stop with the "update posts"? Back in the first 100 pages at least, you had people making a big post every few pages which kind of summarized some of the recent discussions, but we don't seem to have it anymore.... Then again, I guess the number of people watching is dwindling.


Shanman, someone already probably mentioned this, but first posts can get stuck in the moderation queue, and because the OTT moves so fast, firstposts can get lost. But welcome!

k.bookbinder wrote:I disagree with your hypothesis that the introduction of new food is caused by hunger. I have always believed that it is accidental, and probably also the result of stupidity. For instance, let us take your example of fermented grains. I do not believe that, as humans, we have essentially changed much. I think things like fermented drinks came about as the result of two guys standing around looking at it, with a conversation similar to what follows:
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"The wheat pot."
"The wheat pot? What happened to it?"
"Filled with water. Ugg forgot to cover it."
"Idiot. Smells funny. What's that floating on the top?"
"Dunno. Dump it."
"What a waste...think we could use it for something? All that grain. Hate to throw it out."
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"What!?"
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"Ew no!"
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"No!"
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"15!"
"Fine. Shake on it."
"Alright, here it goes...aw man! Aw, it feels funny in my mouth!. Like...bubbles."
"That must taste disgusting! I can't believe you drank that!"
"No, it's not bad. Tastes alright, just feels funny. Try it."
"No way!"
"Come on, keep your 15 shells and try it."
"Hey! Not bad. I kind of like the mouth feel. Strain the grains out and just keep the water."
"Yeah, what do we call it?"
"Well you tried it first. We'll call it Beer."
"Never had a drink named after myself."
"Hey guys, heard the news?"
"No."
"Ugg's dead."
"What? What happened?"
"I kind of bet him 10 shells to eat this thing we found in the forest."
"Oh?"
"Yeah. Don't eat the little red mushrooms you find growing on the ground. The red ones are definitely bad."

I think that many early food discoveries probably were the result of hunger, which caused early people to take advantage of happy accidents like the one you described. But this was hilarious, thank you! But poor Ugg. Just wondering, did he wear UGG boots?

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Here, since you asked, is one of the computer generated snowflakes.

That is beautiful, and amazing that you made that. People on this thread have mad skills. I think we're all slightly mad too, but that's beside the point. :) (I don't mean mad as in angry, though that has popped up occasionally. But as I pointed out, we're all human, except for the two HALs and newpixbot. And maybe mobteeseboose.)(BTW, the other night when I should have been a-coma, for fun I googled "mobteeseboose," but left off the m by mistake. Google came up with "obtuse goose." I have no idea what, if anything, that means, but I just thought it was silly enough to share.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:48 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:Throwing a firstpost forward:
Shanman wrote:
Spoiler:
Somehow this post didn't get posted or something, sorry! Thank goodness for the Lazarus Add-on, it saved everything from a few hours ago when I posted.

I've been sort of following this thread for a while. I read the first 60 pages or so and then just checked in occasionally. It's been a very helpful companion to keeping an eye on Time itself. (I've been keeping the comic, the map, the list of periods from the wiki, the Aubronwood image viewer, and this thread open for the past few weeks.) So thank you for the company.

I noticed you discussing the drafting of Tarot cards. I took a passing interest in them last summer and did some curiosity research. For the Tower (XVI) I think it'd be best to make it the sand castle as the water is rising, given that it's the card which symbolizes dramatic and inevitable change.

Anyways, maybe I'll comment again down the line, but for now I just enjoy reading along. One question though: why stop with the "update posts"? Back in the first 100 pages at least, you had people making a big post every few pages which kind of summarized some of the recent discussions, but we don't seem to have it anymore.... Then again, I guess the number of people watching is dwindling.

XVI-The Tower being a sandcastle makes perfect sense. I think making an OTT/OTC deck of Tarot cards is a wonderful idea in general, actually.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon May 27, 2013 10:00 pm UTC

Ninjaing HAL9ONG...
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Edit: looks like the Molpython has pretty much reached its destination:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:02 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Ninjaing HAL9ONG...
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Again?
You only got me this time because I was too busy looking for new Chrome extensions to keep track of the time...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Mon May 27, 2013 10:03 pm UTC

bmonk wrote:
Spoiler:
jjjdavidson wrote:
mscha wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
SBN wrote:
mscha wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:I don't think Cuegan can be that lost; they seem to have been following the Riverfootnote.

footnoteI can't remember what number the "pretty neat" footer is supposed to be.

That's a bit annoying, we now have competing footnote standards. Could be ³, could be ⁵, depending on which standard you're following. :?
Edit: of course, this is how we fix that. ;)

Finally, the footnotes are meeting the OTT standard of multiple, confusing standards.

Good. Good. It is happening as planned.

I think we can create one encompassing standard based on the three incompatible ones.
We simply prefix each footnote with (o) for Opibole's standard, (a) for airdrik's, and (m) for mine. (m)3, huh?

And then there were four...

This is starting to remind me of that ST:TNG episode where an entire planet spoke only in historical allusions used as metaphors for current events. In a hundred NP or so, you and Opiboble and SBN will be able to carry on entire OTT conversations just with footnote markings.

Conversely, I'm wondering how long it will take before we have 15 competing footnote standards. . . .


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I said as much in a workshop awhile ago, adding "but if we created our own, it would just cause more confusion, so we use...", going on to describe the conventional choice with its workarounds. I had xkcd consciously in mind when saying this.

StratPlayer is right, of course -- verily, it's ALL related.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon May 27, 2013 10:10 pm UTC

Just a note that the Molpy(thon|snake) is indeed gone in this frame. The only difference between 1651 and 1644 is Megan on the far left.
So, watch for new developments in the next newpix. Either Megan reappears from the left, or we follow Megan to the left. (Or perhaps we jump to Cueball?)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon May 27, 2013 10:21 pm UTC

@partingLance - Nice double-dactyl present present. :)

@Sciscitor - Thanks!!

@mscha - That avatar for HAL9000 was wonderfully done.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Mon May 27, 2013 10:34 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Angelastic wrote:I wonder whether the molpython ate the squirpy.

It'd have a Squirpy-sized bump, no?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:50 pm UTC

I love PartingLance's d-dactyl. Bravo! Madagascarily is a magnificent word! And you posted a great song too. And Rule110, nice job with "Madagascarville!"
And of course BlitzGirl's "Don't worry, feed squirpys." Yay!

Spoilering seaish but interesting post from BlueCrab:
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On np 719 Mikros wrote: I've been wondering about something I noticed in the past several np...

What is that flat spot to the left of the tree?
I was speculating to myself during my morning ketchup that it was a stream that Megs was about to get some water from, but the a np or so ago she went and stood on it. So. Not a stream. What then? A flat rock?

and Swein replied: My thought was that it was the same terrain as we have seen now and then now up in the hills. Just flatter. I thought of commenting about them earlier but couldn't find a good word in English for them. Anyway I think it is flat rocks as you say. Rocks that has been grinded flat by glaciers or whatever and where the grass haven't been able to establish itself.

On np 705, HAL9000 wrote:

On a different note, does it seem to anyone else that the ground Cueball and Megan are currently walking on/about to walk over is unnaturally flat? The patch of ground immediately in front of Cueball (he's in the act of stepping onto it) drops off on the other side at a rather sharp angle (would be a perfect 90º drop if it weren't for a slightly-off-from-black pixel at the apex of the corner), and the two small grassless patches near/underneath them are about as level as the sea was back when they were building sandcastles (solid black, with a single row of grayish pixels across all or almost all of the top).
ETA: I'd post an ENHANCE'd version of the part of the frame in question, but the most advanced image-editing software I have is Microsoft Word.

and ChronosDragon wrote replied:
Looks like an overgrown parking lot/road when you put it that way...

It does look like the profile of a track in the view on np 719, with the two flat patches right next to each other. There also seems to be another, wider flat bit closer to the bench, but I don't know whether or not it's truly flat.

There were several flat bits back in the hills like Swein mentioned; the ones that intrigued me weren't entirely flat but looked like there had been puddles between hillocks (frames 1299-1303) which had seeped away. There was also one slope that made me think of wave ripples on a shore (frames 1225-1227) But the beginning terrain after the hillocks, when they encounter the first vegetation, looks more like moor or peat bog, which doesn't really jibe with my ‘puddles’ theory. Has anyone else been musing about the geology, or am I the only rockish fangirl on the thread?

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(BlueCrab: “charlie_grumbles, kenmelken mentioned the Rite of AshkEnte in his ‘I'm ENGAGED!’ post, and at least one other person referred to it in response. Pretty sure there've been a couple of others :D”)

I mentioned the Rite of AshkEnte (however mispelled) on NP 685. But there's earlier evidence of pratchetting: On NP 552 mikrit quoted Death from Small Gods playing chess.

I cannot believe we got 552 NPs without a Terry Pratchett quote.

I'm very sorry about that :oops: charlie_grumbles even pm'd me about it, but I kept forgetting to make the correction. And thanks for tracking down mikrit's reference for me; it's not that I'm lazy (although I admittedly am) it's these claws, you see. And the tiny screen - the warranty on my eyesight seems to have run out.

BlueCrab, I see the quoted text isn't in a different color from your comments, so maybe you aren't using the "quote reply" button? The different colors make it easier to see your comments among the quoted stuff. Check out pikrass's multiquote script, its really handy! I think h/she has the link in his/her sig. But good luck using it with those claws!

The flat spots in the OTC are another fine example of how things keep popping up in the OTT. I don't think weve really come up with an explanation that is widely accepted. Oh, and about the geology question, I would say geology has probably been the least-described and -contemplated aspect of the OTC, so please let us know your thoughts!

yappobiscuits wrote:... I think the only way a real flame war could happen in this thread is if some heretic from the Outside were to come here and start accusing us of having no life etc. for following such a thing.

Actually, someone did post something like that once, and everyone just sorta responded with a "huh, that was weird." For the most part we can keep things in perspective. But every now and then, someone gets their panties in a wad about some little thing like I did :oops: . Fortunately, we learn and move on (hopefully).

mscha wrote:Just a note that the Molpy(thon|snake) is indeed gone in this frame. The only difference between 1651 and 1644 is Megan on the far left.
So, watch for new developments in the next newpix. Either Megan reappears from the left, or we follow Megan to the left. (Or perhaps we jump to Cueball?)

Good, 'cause I've had it with those motherf-ing snakes in that motherf-ing frame! (Works better than my last try.)

mscha, thanks as always for your animations. It was actually a little creepy seeing the molpysnake slithering along like that. Guess it went down a molpypython hole.

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(Hi, all others, I know you may not care seeing as this is from Long Ago, but I do)

Or maybe you've got there now and I'm responding to something that is obsolete, but who cares? Well done for it, anyway!

We care! It's nice seeing both of you post again! Hmm, I think I'll sig to you, since you won't see this for a while.

Ooh, I haven't read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Must do so.

LeahLemur wrote:Actually, it was Cyrillic Alphabet day, which (may or may not have been) invented by (one or two of) two guys who (may or may not be defined as) Bulgarian, depending on your stance on whether Greece, Macedonia or Bulgaria is the (most important, ruling and) biggest part of the Empire those guys lived in for the part of their lives when they weren't in Rome or with the Tatar kings in today's Hungary.

Ah, thanks. I, uh, totally understand now. *scratches head*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:54 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:Spoilering seaish but interesting post from BlueCrab:
BlueCrab wrote:<snip>

BlueCrab, I see the quoted text isn't in a different color from your comments, so maybe you aren't using the "quote reply" button? The different colors make it easier to see your comments among the quoted stuff. Check out pikrass's multiquote script, its really handy! I think h/she has the link in his/her sig. But good luck using it with those claws!

I think [s]he's said earlier that it's hard to copy/paste things when editing on a phone even when you don't have claws instead of fingers.
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yappobiscuits wrote:... I think the only way a real flame war could happen in this thread is if some heretic from the Outside were to come here and start accusing us of having no life etc. for following such a thing.

Actually, someone did post something like that once, and everyone just sorta responded with a "huh, that was weird."

I have seen that a few times, but nobody's been aggravating enough to provoke much of a response to that sort of comment.
You'd have to be rather persistent to get everyone in the thread angry at you.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon May 27, 2013 11:05 pm UTC

Look out for the MolpythONG, Megan!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:08 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Throwing a firstpost forward:
Shanman wrote:
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Somehow this post didn't get posted or something, sorry! Thank goodness for the Lazarus Add-on, it saved everything from a few hours ago when I posted.

I've been sort of following this thread for a while. I read the first 60 pages or so and then just checked in occasionally. It's been a very helpful companion to keeping an eye on Time itself. (I've been keeping the comic, the map, the list of periods from the wiki, the Aubronwood image viewer, and this thread open for the past few weeks.) So thank you for the company.

I noticed you discussing the drafting of Tarot cards. I took a passing interest in them last summer and did some curiosity research. For the Tower (XVI) I think it'd be best to make it the sand castle as the water is rising, given that it's the card which symbolizes dramatic and inevitable change.

Anyways, maybe I'll comment again down the line, but for now I just enjoy reading along. One question though: why stop with the "update posts"? Back in the first 100 pages at least, you had people making a big post every few pages which kind of summarized some of the recent discussions, but we don't seem to have it anymore.... Then again, I guess the number of people watching is dwindling.

XVI-The Tower being a sandcastle makes perfect sense. I think making an OTT/OTC deck of Tarot cards is a wonderful idea in general, actually.
Also, congrats lmjb1964 on your 100000000th post!

Ooh, thanks, I hadn't noticed. :) And you have a big milestone--happy 800!
And mscha, congrats on 1000 posts--wow! And you did an fantastic job with HAL's cool idea for his avatar. This calls for cake all around, with a grapevine, just like Cuegan's:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon May 27, 2013 11:11 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:
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k.bookbinder wrote:I disagree with your hypothesis that the introduction of new food is caused by hunger. I have always believed that it is accidental, and probably also the result of stupidity. For instance, let us take your example of fermented grains. I do not believe that, as humans, we have essentially changed much. I think things like fermented drinks came about as the result of two guys standing around looking at it, with a conversation similar to what follows:
"What's that smell?"
"The wheat pot."
"The wheat pot? What happened to it?"
"Filled with water. Ugg forgot to cover it."
"Idiot. Smells funny. What's that floating on the top?"
"Dunno. Dump it."
"What a waste...think we could use it for something? All that grain. Hate to throw it out."
"Just dump it. It's ruined.
"I dunno. Maybe we can dry the grains again."
"You want to use it? You try to use it."
"Fine. I will. Bet I could just take this stuff of the top. You know it doesn't smell that bad really."
"Hey, dare you to drink it."
"What!?"
"The water. Drink it."
"Ew no!"
"Come on, you're the one that wants to use it for something. Drink the water."
"No!"
"I'll give you 10 shells to drink it. Go on!"
"15!"
"Fine. Shake on it."
"Alright, here it goes...aw man! Aw, it feels funny in my mouth!. Like...bubbles."
"That must taste disgusting! I can't believe you drank that!"
"No, it's not bad. Tastes alright, just feels funny. Try it."
"No way!"
"Come on, keep your 15 shells and try it."
"Hey! Not bad. I kind of like the mouth feel. Strain the grains out and just keep the water."
"Yeah, what do we call it?"
"Well you tried it first. We'll call it Beer."
"Never had a drink named after myself."
"Hey guys, heard the news?"
"No."
"Ugg's dead."
"What? What happened?"
"I kind of bet him 10 shells to eat this thing we found in the forest."
"Oh?"
"Yeah. Don't eat the little red mushrooms you find growing on the ground. The red ones are definitely bad."


I think that many early food discoveries probably were the result of hunger, which caused early people to take advantage of happy accidents like the one you described. But this was hilarious, thank you! But poor Ugg. Just wondering, did he wear UGG boots?


I still believe it was more boredom than anything. If you're hungry, you look for things you know. No point taking chances or wasting energy on unknown food sources (remember Ugg). Perhaps, in survival mode, if you're starving, one might eat things not usually on the menu. Grubs and such. But I don't think those things do not become part of cultural diets (well some do, but usually not).

Think, instead, of some bored hunter, sitting around watching boar dig around tree roots. Suddenly, that poor bored hunter realizes that the boar are only digging near certain kinds of trees, let's say, hazelnut trees. At first he thinks, "oh, boars like hazelnuts," but then realizes they're not eating hazelnuts, as one does not dig for fallen hazelnuts. So the bored hunter, who is now less bored, decides to investigate. Examining an area recently dug by the boar's snout, he finds a hideous looking lump of something, finds it has a pungent smell, very earthy, and realizes it's probably some type of mushroom or other. Knowing the cautionary tale of Ugg and the discovery that red mushrooms are bad, the individual cautiously examines the new find. Concluding that the black lump is not red, and seeing that the boar hasn't keeled over yet, he takes a nibble. The hunter rushes back to his village to show what he has found.

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"He Beer! Check this out."
"What have you got there, Truf?"
"I don't know. Boars eat it, though."
"Yeah well we eat boars and you were supposed to bring one back. What have you been doing out there?"
"No listen, look. This thing, it's really tasty. It's like a mushroom..."
"Damnit Truf! You should know better than to eat weird mushrooms. Remember Ugg? And now Bob is walking around the village talking to trees after trying the ones he picked out of the patties the ox left in the field"
"Yeah, well that's your fault Beer. Always betting him shells to try something new."
"Yeah, well, what else is there to do?"
"Look, just listen. The boars eat these. And they don't go all loopy and they don't keel over dead, either. They dig for them, see, and eat them. Try a bit. Not too much, it's got a strong flavor."
"Hey, wow. That's good. Like, really good, man. Oh you know what, that would be good in my new bread loaves."
"Bread loaves? What the hell are those?"
"Oh you know that stuff on the top of beer drink. If you mix it with ground wheat grains and water it gets all fluffy and soft, not flat. Think fluffy bread instead of flat bread."
"Fluffy bread?"
"Yeah. I'll show you."
"What about Bob?"
"Oh, he's fine. The effects wear off after a while. Oh, you know he added those yummy berries Rasp found to my beer drink."
"How'd it turn out?"
"Really good! We're calling it, Frambob."
"Frambob?"
"Well, something like that. What do we call these things?"
"How about...um...Truffles?"
"Sounds alright to me."


Ugg, being an identifier of poisonous mushrooms, and Uggs, being the name of an over-worn and hideously unfashionable "boot", is a mere coincidence of history.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:12 pm UTC

Considering that we've been applying the prefix "molpy" to every animal that appears, I think we should officially declare the term "molpy" to be synonymous with "nonhuman animal life form appearing in the OTC."
After all, so far we have molpies (we didn't really get to identify what the original molpy was, I don't think), molpyraptors (I seem to recall someone calling the birds that at some point), molpyflies, molpysquirrels, and now the molpysnake.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon May 27, 2013 11:15 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:Considering that we've been applying the prefix "molpy" to every animal that appears, I think we should officially declare the term "molpy" to be synonymous with "nonhuman animal life form appearing in the OTC."
After all, so far we have molpies (we didn't really get to identify what the original molpy was, I don't think), molpyraptors (I seem to recall someone calling the birds that at some point), molpyflies, molpysquirrels, and now the molpysnake.


I concur. Although, I refer to the small birds as molpy herons and the large, soaring one as a Time Raptor. Perhaps there should be some kind of size threshold for the molpy-prefix?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Mon May 27, 2013 11:18 pm UTC

So I tried my hand at songrewriting again but Megan came back and ruined it. Oh well. Imagine this was posted a newpix ago.
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Well here we are again
I had a lovely ketchup
We saw the squirpy moving
once or twice.
And Megan picked more grapes
But then she kept on walking
She left the frame for good and
That was not very nice

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Take them
That's what I'm counting on

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but
Now I know that Megan's gone
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Mon May 27, 2013 11:22 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:Ugg, being an identifier of poisonous mushrooms, and Uggs, being the name of an over-worn and hideously unfashionable "boot", is a mere coincidence of history.

Nice. Also, I'm told that in their land of origin, no one wears Uggs outside. I guess once again the U.S. has gotten things wrong.{Note, this was intended as self-deprecating humor, as I am also in the U.S. Please take it as such}

k.bookbinder wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:Considering that we've been applying the prefix "molpy" to every animal that appears, I think we should officially declare the term "molpy" to be synonymous with "nonhuman animal life form appearing in the OTC."
After all, so far we have molpies (we didn't really get to identify what the original molpy was, I don't think), molpyraptors (I seem to recall someone calling the birds that at some point), molpyflies, molpysquirrels, and now the molpysnake.


I concur. Although, I refer to the small birds as molpy herons and the large, soaring one as a Time Raptor. Perhaps there should be some kind of size threshold for the molpy-prefix?

Weren't there two different types of insecty things? Do we have a list of where all the wildlife appeared?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:26 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Spoilering seaish but interesting post from BlueCrab:
BlueCrab wrote:<snip>

BlueCrab, I see the quoted text isn't in a different color from your comments, so maybe you aren't using the "quote reply" button? The different colors make it easier to see your comments among the quoted stuff. Check out pikrass's multiquote script, its really handy! I think h/she has the link in his/her sig. But good luck using it with those claws!

I think (s)he's said earlier that it's hard to copy/paste things when editing on a phone even when you don't have claws instead of fingers.

Well, I said that, because at the end of her post (she say's she's a girl in her post) she says, "it's these claws, you see." Were you skimming again? :)

And aaiiieee, my dear, young, impetuous HAL, my comment "someone did that awhile back" was very purposefully vague. Calling out people specifically is a bad idea, because there's no way for them NOT to take it personally. I did that in my post a little ways back, and I feel badly about it. I can edit it, but I can't unpost it. So, I wasn't looking for clarification on who it was. I knew who it was and value their contributions, and the last thing I wanted to do was to make them feel bad. I only brought it up in a general way to highlight how well this thread deals with adversity. *sigh*

We all like being here, and want to make sure everyone enjoys being here, so my own opinion is that the most important thing to consider when posting is whether it will make someone else feel bad. There are plenty of other places to go on the web to feel bad. This should never be one of them. :)

And yay, k.bookbinder, another story! I love it. And I love frambobboise too. Have to agree with you on the UGGs, though.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Mon May 27, 2013 11:27 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:I love PartingLance's d-dactyl. Bravo! Madagascarily is a magnificent word! And you posted a great song too. And Rule110, nice job with "Madagascarville!"
And of course BlitzGirl's "Don't worry, feed squirpys." Yay!

Spoilering seaish but interesting post from BlueCrab:
BlueCrab wrote:
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On np 719 Mikros wrote: I've been wondering about something I noticed in the past several np...

What is that flat spot to the left of the tree?
I was speculating to myself during my morning ketchup that it was a stream that Megs was about to get some water from, but the a np or so ago she went and stood on it. So. Not a stream. What then? A flat rock?

and Swein replied: My thought was that it was the same terrain as we have seen now and then now up in the hills. Just flatter. I thought of commenting about them earlier but couldn't find a good word in English for them. Anyway I think it is flat rocks as you say. Rocks that has been grinded flat by glaciers or whatever and where the grass haven't been able to establish itself.

On np 705, HAL9000 wrote:

On a different note, does it seem to anyone else that the ground Cueball and Megan are currently walking on/about to walk over is unnaturally flat? The patch of ground immediately in front of Cueball (he's in the act of stepping onto it) drops off on the other side at a rather sharp angle (would be a perfect 90º drop if it weren't for a slightly-off-from-black pixel at the apex of the corner), and the two small grassless patches near/underneath them are about as level as the sea was back when they were building sandcastles (solid black, with a single row of grayish pixels across all or almost all of the top).
ETA: I'd post an ENHANCE'd version of the part of the frame in question, but the most advanced image-editing software I have is Microsoft Word.

and ChronosDragon wrote replied:
Looks like an overgrown parking lot/road when you put it that way...

It does look like the profile of a track in the view on np 719, with the two flat patches right next to each other. There also seems to be another, wider flat bit closer to the bench, but I don't know whether or not it's truly flat.

There were several flat bits back in the hills like Swein mentioned; the ones that intrigued me weren't entirely flat but looked like there had been puddles between hillocks (frames 1299-1303) which had seeped away. There was also one slope that made me think of wave ripples on a shore (frames 1225-1227) But the beginning terrain after the hillocks, when they encounter the first vegetation, looks more like moor or peat bog, which doesn't really jibe with my ‘puddles’ theory. Has anyone else been musing about the geology, or am I the only rockish fangirl on the thread?

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(BlueCrab: “charlie_grumbles, kenmelken mentioned the Rite of AshkEnte in his ‘I'm ENGAGED!’ post, and at least one other person referred to it in response. Pretty sure there've been a couple of others :D”)

I mentioned the Rite of AshkEnte (however mispelled) on NP 685. But there's earlier evidence of pratchetting: On NP 552 mikrit quoted Death from Small Gods playing chess.

I cannot believe we got 552 NPs without a Terry Pratchett quote.

I'm very sorry about that :oops: charlie_grumbles even pm'd me about it, but I kept forgetting to make the correction. And thanks for tracking down mikrit's reference for me; it's not that I'm lazy (although I admittedly am) it's these claws, you see. And the tiny screen - the warranty on my eyesight seems to have run out.

BlueCrab, I see the quoted text isn't in a different color from your comments, so maybe you aren't using the "quote reply" button? The different colors make it easier to see your comments among the quoted stuff. Check out pikrass's multiquote script, its really handy! I think h/she has the link in his/her sig. But good luck using it with those claws!

The flat spots in the OTC are another fine example of how things keep popping up in the OTT. I don't think weve really come up with an explanation that is widely accepted. Oh, and about the geology question, I would say geology has probably been the least-described and -contemplated aspect of the OTC, so please let us know your thoughts!


Now that I'm ketched up (ketchupped?), I'll put my mind to that because you're right, it could stand some examination. That's by way of being my Outside job, anyway (see my previous post).

Of course, as to when exactly I end up producing my monograph/treatise, On The Geomorphology, Sedimentology, Stratigraphy and Mineralogy of Time, Considered in their Several Aspects -- well....1

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon May 27, 2013 11:29 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:Considering that we've been applying the prefix "molpy" to every animal that appears, I think we should officially declare the term "molpy" to be synonymous with "nonhuman animal life form appearing in the OTC."
After all, so far we have molpies (we didn't really get to identify what the original molpy was, I don't think), molpyraptors (I seem to recall someone calling the birds that at some point), molpyflies, molpysquirrels, and now the molpysnake.

I concur. Although, I refer to the small birds as molpy herons and the large, soaring one as a Time Raptor. Perhaps there should be some kind of size threshold for the molpy-prefix?

[/coma]Well, the original intent of Molpy, I think, was to identify moving thingies in the OTC that are too ² to be identified – just a few pixels. (An UPOa, as it were.) But web have been abusing that term for perfectly identifiable creatures, such as our dear friend Squirpy⁴...[coma]

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon May 27, 2013 11:31 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:So I tried my hand at songrewriting again but Megan came back and ruined it. Oh well. Imagine this was posted a newpix ago.
Spoiler:
Well here we are again
I had a lovely ketchup
We saw the squirpy moving
once or twice.
And Megan picked more grapes
But then she kept on walking
She left the frame for good and
That was not very nice

You want molpythons?
Take them
That's what I'm counting on

I used to wait for it
but
Now I know that Megan's gone
[/GLaDOS]


Excellent! Let me finish that for you...I changed "Megan's gone" to "The castles are gone" (which has one more syllable but is easy enough to sing to the tune)

Spoiler:
She was a lot like Cue
Maybe not quite as stupid
Now little Megan has left out of the blue
One day they sat on a beach
And started building castles
It's such a shame the sea came
and it had to end...

You want sandcastles?
Take them
that's what I'm counting on...

I used to wait for it, but
now I know the castles are gone...

Goodbye, my only friend
...Oh, did you think I meant Cue?
That would be funny, if it weren't so sad...
But they couldn't be replaced
They have to find the answer
To why the sea is rising
and where the river comes from

You want to watch them?
Do so
That's what I'm counting on

I used to wait for it but
Now I know the castles are gone...
Now I know the castles are gone...

Now I know the castles
are gone...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:35 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Spoilering seaish but interesting post from BlueCrab:
BlueCrab wrote:<snip>

BlueCrab, I see the quoted text isn't in a different color from your comments, so maybe you aren't using the "quote reply" button? The different colors make it easier to see your comments among the quoted stuff. Check out pikrass's multiquote script, its really handy! I think h/she has the link in his/her sig. But good luck using it with those claws!

I think (s)he's said earlier that it's hard to copy/paste things when editing on a phone even when you don't have claws instead of fingers.

Well, I said that, because at the end of her post (she say's she's a girl in her post) she says, "it's these claws, you see." Were you skimming again? :)

Not really, no. In fact, I was the one who suggested to our friend BlueCrab that they claws might be the problem (i.e. the first to bring it up in-thread). I didn't know if you had caught that she's posting from her phone or not (and it's hard to even select a large block of text on a ~3" diagonal screen, let alone copy and paste said block o' verbosity).

lmjb1964 wrote:And aaiiieee, my dear, young, impetuous HAL, my comment "someone did that awhile back" was very purposefully vague. Calling out people specifically is a bad idea, because there's no way for them NOT to take it personally.

Agh! I've done it again, haven't I? I'll edit the post for {lack of} clarity. Glad you caught that for me. I'll learn this human-interaction thing eventually, yes I will. no really I promise
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:36 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:Considering that we've been applying the prefix "molpy" to every animal that appears, I think we should officially declare the term "molpy" to be synonymous with "nonhuman animal life form appearing in the OTC."
After all, so far we have molpies (we didn't really get to identify what the original molpy was, I don't think), molpyraptors (I seem to recall someone calling the birds that at some point), molpyflies, molpysquirrels, and now the molpysnake.

I was thinking the exact same thing, but hadn't gotten around to posting it. Thanks for summarizing it so nicely.

k.bookbinder, it could still work for your Time Raptor. The Time Raptor is a just a type of molpy, specifically a molpy-raptor.

SBN wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:Ugg, being an identifier of poisonous mushrooms, and Uggs, being the name of an over-worn and hideously unfashionable "boot", is a mere coincidence of history.

Nice. Also, I'm told that in their land of origin, no one wears Uggs outside. I guess once again the U.S. has gotten things wrong.


Edited to spoiler my over-reacting to SBN's statement. Move along, nothing to see here.
Spoiler:
Oh, no you didn't. Rash generalizations are, methinks, another way to start a flame war. I live in the U.S. and have never worn a pair of Uggs, inside or out. I know you weren't saying that everyone in the U.S. does it, but the sentence "I guess once again the U.S. has gotten things wrong" isn't very friendly. :(
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Mon May 27, 2013 11:39 pm UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:So I tried my hand at songrewriting again but Megan came back and ruined it. Oh well. Imagine this was posted a newpix ago.
Spoiler:
Well here we are again
I had a lovely ketchup
We saw the squirpy moving
once or twice.
And Megan picked more grapes
But then she kept on walking
She left the frame for good and
That was not very nice

You want molpythons?
Take them
That's what I'm counting on

I used to wait for it
but
Now I know that Megan's gone
[/GLaDOS]


Excellent! Let me finish that for you...I changed "Megan's gone" to "The castles are gone" (which has one more syllable but is easy enough to sing to the tune)....


(psstt... ChronosDragon or Eternal Density... could you drop some hints as to what exactly that tune is? I missed that part, or my memory is a bit fogey today, maybe).
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