1190: "Time"

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Niclep was hot on the squirpy's trail.

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:35 am UTC

Rule110 wrote:Hey, Randall violated the "No ******s on this page" decree. :evil:

I know he's all-powerful and all, and that decrees aren't actually binding on anyone. But still... what kind of moral message does that kind of behavior send to our children?

We have children??!
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#1300

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:37 am UTC

Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:39 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:
Rule110 wrote:Hey, Randall violated the "No ******s on this page" decree. :evil:

I know he's all-powerful and all, and that decrees aren't actually binding on anyone. But still... what kind of moral message does that kind of behavior send to our children?

Well maybe the decree was designed to make Randall's one stand out more so we can enjoy it when it happens as it won't be drowned out by our incessant ch***ing.


Yeah, maybe.

Wait, "maybe?" It was your decree! Don't you know? Or were you just passing along commandments from a higher power10?

10 is a pretty high power, for instance. A thousand to the tenth power is over a million billion jillion.
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But then he heard a chirp!

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:39 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!

Great now you've got me imagining 'chirp' actually is a naughty word :P

Oh and I guess since I'm the goat from the previous page, it's my fault. If I'd posted later, I'd be pope and you'd be goat :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Latent22 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:40 am UTC

ZoomanSP wrote:P.S.: This reminds me that I always wanted to become a Knight Temporal. Who do I have to bribe ask for an appointment these dix?


I think you can only get appointed to be a Knight Temporal by your future self who already is a Knight Temporal. Thus proving your worthiness and skillful use of Time.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:43 am UTC

Happy 1300th, BlitzGirl!
Have some Neue Blitzkuchen.,..
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c---p

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:44 am UTC

Schmeckt gut! Danke, mscha! :D

Eternal Density wrote:Great now you've got me imagining 'chirp' actually is a naughty word :P

It might as well be...our "chirpy" can join the grand tradition of inappropriately named birds.
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Re: But then he heard a chirp!

Postby Latent22 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:55 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!

Great now you've got me imagining 'chirp' actually is a naughty word :P

Oh and I guess since I'm the goat from the previous page, it's my fault. If I'd posted later, I'd be pope and you'd be goat :P


chirp Vulgar.
Usage note
For many people, the word chirp is extremely vulgar, considered improper and taboo in all of its senses. Yet various forms of the word, primarily in its nonliteral, slang senses, have increasingly crept into casual use, not only as spontaneous expletives of shock, horror, or anger, but also as verbal tics and common intensifiers, mere indices of annoyance or impatience or even pleasant surprise: Where are my chirping keys? What the chirp is taking so long? This is chirping awesome! Nevertheless, the term is best avoided altogether in “polite company.” The mass broadcast media have actually been forced by the threat of punitive fines to block audiences from hearing it, either by banning its use entirely or by bleeping all or part of the sound—if only by blocking out nothing more than the vowel sound in the middle.
Although its first known occurrence in writing dates from the late 1400s (disguised in a cipher at that), the word chirp was undoubtedly heard long before that, and it remains primarily a creature of the spoken language. Well into the 20th century, it was generally regarded as “unprintable,” and forms like c*** or ch--p or some spelling distortion like chack or cig or cork or chug were typically substituted for it in writing. In speech, creative euphemisms abound, some born with each new generation. We now have see and seeing as well as c-word and c-bomb, all of which allow us to discuss the term without resorting to its actual use.

verb (used with object)
1.
to have sexual intercourse with a bird.
2.
Slang. to treat unfairly or harshly.
verb (used without object)
3.
to have sexual intercourse with a bird.
4.
Slang. to meddle (usually followed by around or with ).

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Re: But then he heard a chirp!

Postby poxic » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:58 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:verb (used with object)
1.
to have sexual intercourse with a bird.

Ew.
3.
to have sexual intercourse with a bird.

Ew.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:59 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:Hey mscha maybe you should re check the corner brightness from now on so we can catch when the daylight starts happening early. Been some debate as to when it will start but some predictions have been around it starting now.

Not yet.
Here are corner shades for the past 27 newpix. (0 is black, 255 = white. I've changed the script so that the bottom corners are actually in the sky, not the ground.)
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newpix: top-left/top-right/bottom-right/bottom-left
np2445: 6/6/17/18
np2446: 6/6/17/18
np2447: 6/6/16/18
np2448: 6/6/17/18
np2449: 6/6/17/18
np2450: 6/6/16/18
np2451: 6/6/17/18
np2452: 6/6/17/18
np2453: 6/6/17/18
np2454: 6/6/17/18
np2455: 6/6/17/18
np2456: 6/6/17/18
np2457: 6/6/17/18
np2458: 6/6/17/18
np2459: 6/6/16/18
np2460: 6/6/16/18
np2461: 6/6/16/18
np2462: 6/6/16/18
np2463: 6/6/16/18
np2464: 6/6/16/18
np2465: 6/6/16/18
np2466: 0/2/16/18
np2467: 6/6/16/18
np2468: 6/6/16/18
np2469: 6/6/16/18
np2470: 6/6/16/18
np2471: 6/6/17/18
Note that there can be (but aren't) false positives, if there happens to be a star at the pixel I'm checking. The lower values in np2466 are the mustard.
So, no brightening yet.

Edit: ‘future’ newpix added.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:59 am UTC

mscha wrote:Not sure what you're trying to ask (sigh...)

mscha wrote:Some of these messages are hard to read. I had no idea what Valarya was asking, for example.

Can we hug it out? Image I thought that word would be the funniest to change since you could fill in your own emotion (and be naughty with it), but I see now that it makes it way too vague if I actually want an answer to my question. You did answer it, in a way, by letting me know it isn't "right that very moment."

Latent22 wrote:I think the original chirp from Valarya could be replaced with something like 'excited'. He is saying how great it is when GLR modifies the comic in realtime for us.

Thanks, Latent. Oh and.. "she." :wink:

ggh wrote:But I did find Valarya's substitution hilarious, as I assumed she meant "aroused".

*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* ! (Or should I say *dong?* ;) ) We have a winner!.

Anyway, isn't that my luck. I post many times in the past 10 NPs and the first time I get lots of replies is b/c people are angry that I followed a papal decree. Peachy. Here, have some chirping cupcakes. Wonder if you can guess what that word would have been without the 'chirp' part.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby spamjam » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:00 am UTC

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Re: #1300

Postby edo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:02 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!


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Oh ch***

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:06 am UTC

Not very well, apparently. Image

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Which should he chase? The squirpy, or the chirpy?

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:08 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!

Great now you've got me imagining 'chirp' actually is a naughty word :P

Oh and I guess since I'm the goat from the previous page, it's my fault. If I'd posted later, I'd be pope and you'd be goat :P


chirp Vulgar.
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For many people, the word chirp is extremely vulgar, considered improper and taboo in all of its senses.

"God's light, these villains will make the word as odious as the word 'occupy;' which was an excellent good word before it was ill sorted" — William Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part 2, II.iv
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:22 am UTC

Wildhound wrote:There definitely needs to be an OTT Meta Thread. The OTTMT.


Isn't this the OTTMT? It's like Douglas Hofstadter's meta-chess at the last level, where all meta-boards are combined into the same one.

BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post, and I am allowed a naughty word:

CHIRP.

Okay, I feel much better now. :mrgreen:

Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!


...did you just become Mome five newpages in a row?

Also, why are there so many posts? It's a Sunday! I expected to be able to relax like last wipend, not to have to ketchup every few hours if I forgot to check the OTT!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Latent22 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:30 am UTC

taixzo wrote:
Also, why are there so many posts? It's a Sunday! I expected to be able to relax like last wipend, not to have to ketchup every few hours if I forgot to check the OTT!


Ok we will stop writing anything here so you can relax!
Edit: Sorry just made it worse there!
Edit2: And again worse! Sorry!
Edit3: Opps I did it again didn't I? Again Sorry.
Edit4: I keep doing it! Why didn't I think before I wrote that?
Edit5: And again there I wasn't thinking again and I've made it worse again
Edit6: Ok I promise I won't make it any worse.
Edit7: But there I go again I just broke my promise by saying my promise. How Chirped up is that?
Edit8: Sorry have to apologize again for making it worse. I'm deeply sorry and it won't happen again.
Edit9: But it did it just happened again. I don't understand how this is happening. I just want to say I'm sorry and not make this any worse!
Edit10: Sorry.
Edit11: I thought if i kept it really short it wouldn't make it worse but that didn't work!
Edit12: And by saying it didn't work it made it worse again. So Sorry.
Edit13: Look I'm so sorry but I really need to stop apologizing sorry. I'm trying to find a way out of this but still haven't found a sane one.
edit14: Ok so sorry for all this but I think I've solved it. If I make this small enough then it's all sorted right?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:33 am UTC

mscha wrote:
Latent22 wrote:Hey mscha maybe you should re check the corner brightness from now on so we can catch when the daylight starts happening early. Been some debate as to when it will start but some predictions have been around it starting now.

Not yet.
Here are corner shades for the past 27 newpix. (0 is black, 255 = white. I've changed the script so that the bottom corners are actually in the sky, not the ground.)
Spoiler:
newpix: top-left/top-right/bottom-right/bottom-left
np2445: 6/6/17/18
np2446: 6/6/17/18
np2447: 6/6/16/18
np2448: 6/6/17/18
np2449: 6/6/17/18
np2450: 6/6/16/18
np2451: 6/6/17/18
np2452: 6/6/17/18
np2453: 6/6/17/18
np2454: 6/6/17/18
np2455: 6/6/17/18
np2456: 6/6/17/18
np2457: 6/6/17/18
np2458: 6/6/17/18
np2459: 6/6/16/18
np2460: 6/6/16/18
np2461: 6/6/16/18
np2462: 6/6/16/18
np2463: 6/6/16/18
np2464: 6/6/16/18
np2465: 6/6/16/18
np2466: 0/2/16/18
np2467: 6/6/16/18
np2468: 6/6/16/18
np2469: 6/6/16/18
np2470: 6/6/16/18
np2471: 6/6/17/18
Note that there can be (but aren't) false positives, if there happens to be a star at the pixel I'm checking. The lower values in np2466 are the mustard.
So, no brightening yet.

Edit: ‘future’ newpix added.

Also, the lightening should be about as long as the darkening, so, yeah, we've got more stasrs to see (the last ones may be M3 or so, and possibly a planet or two to firm up the date (the 12 year near resonance of jupiter w earth and the 8 year one with venus make the 24 year pattern. Mars would be helpful, what the moon is for days, Mars is for years. When does the linux clock run out again?
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Re: #1300

Postby Marsh'n » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:41 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Since this is my 1300th post...


A little belated, but I wanted to make you something special to help you feel better!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby sla29970 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:43 am UTC

During the second chirp 14 Andromedae winked out.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:44 am UTC

Ooh, donuts! Thanks, Marsh'n! :D Much better!

taixzo wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Edit: Randamn it! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME?!

...did you just become Mome five newpages in a row?

Nope. But it certainly feels that way. For chirp's sake!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:50 am UTC

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My first in a while :D and OMR it's seaish. No one feel obligated to read this, just me ranting about various things that have happened while I was away ;)

@yappobiscuits - far-in-the-future problems
@Wildhound - full in-comic time
@swein - color perception
@yappobiscuits - ottermolpy images (segue into small blurb about my vacation)
@Timelurker, others - date format
@Montov - prediction of cueball staying up half the night
@Wnderer - LSD stargazing (reveals some of those magnitude 5/6 stars mentioned later in the thread)
@Blitzgirl - Time fanart
@edfel - star trails
@Rule110 - seaish explanation of cosmic sphere
@Charlie_grumbles - page navigation
@Blitzgirl again - more fanart :P
@Ximinez - blinking stars, chirps (applicable to recent conversation on the same topic
@Davidy - missing stars
@Blitzgirl - recent dark-mustard


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yappobiscuits wrote:I'm still not sure I buy this whole far-far-in-the-future thing... they have language and concepts too similar to the modern day, like sandcastles and words like "neat"... I've always been open to the idea that it could be post-apocalyptic, but not THAT far in the future. That far in the future I would've expected entirely new civilisations to develop, ones entirely alien to our own. It just doesn't add up for me like so many other things about the OTC, which I guess is what keeps it so interesting and keeps us waiting for it...


I jokingly suggested that the "cryogenic apocalypse" depicted in Othercomic 989 had occurred, but actually that's a pretty viable possibility. What if the people they're living with are all from a group that was kept asleep for far too long, awoken by some automatic process at the heart of their facility? They come out to a much changed earth with civilization seemingly gone, and scrounge what they can to make a living. In this scenario, a peaceful walk with some sandcastles would be a nice respite where they could maybe forget everything which had happened.

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higgs-boson wrote:This, by the way, should be one of the rare occasions where we have a certain scientifc clue about the in-comic flow of time.


If edo is right and there are currently 6.36 minutes between frames, and if that has been consistent across all of Time, then 10 days 15 hours and 20 minutes (approximately) have passed since the beginning of Time.

However, the latter is almost certainly not the case. There is clearly inside-time compression going on.


Perhaps there is - but maybe it's safe to take about 5 minutes as the average? What if we assume the sandcastle episode was about 2 or 3 days (taking periods of absence as catnaps or something like that), their walk along the sea (as mentioned) as 4 days, and then another 2 or 3 days since then? That would add up to 8 to 10 days. The passage of time certainly is confusing given this is the first actual night we've witnessed, and as mscha pointed out it would simply be nonsensical for the rest of the comic to have only taken a day.

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Pikrass wrote:This reminds me of something I sometimes wonder: do we all perceive the colors the same way? Maybe my green is not someone else's green, and his brain create another mental image for that color?

Yeah! My sister and I speculated in that many many years ago, when we couldn't agree on "warm" and "cold" colours. Impossible to tell really. I would say probably.
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The fact of the matter is, as long as the outcome is the same (red is still red and blue is still blue), it really doesn't affect anything to try and determine "how" someone perceives something versus how someone else perceives it. The important differences arise when two things are perceived the same by one person and different by someone else - in the case of color, we call this colorblindness or tetrachromacy.

On a somewhat related note, this argument is the primary reason why maybe we shouldn't care about the existence of a multiverse - if we can't ever observe or otherwise access other universes, what does it matter if it's even there?

yappobiscuits wrote:Well, I'm rather coma deprived now and can hardly keep my eyes open, so coma ottermolpy time... I look forward to all your further astronomical analyses! But for now, molpy down. Pip pip!
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This image reminds me, I saw some sea lions this morning! None up close, unfortunately, but a couple bobbed their heads out of the water about 15q offshore and reminded me of your molpy down images :P

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Wildhound wrote:<snip>
I agree, it doesn't make any sense to me to sort values by anything other than least -> most significant, or preferably most -> least significant.
To me, writing a date as mm/dd/yyyy is as silliy as writing the number one-hundred and twenty as 201.
ISO ftw.

The date order is just like the Lego(s) thing. It doesn't matter what is right/wrong or correct. What you were raised with just sounds good in your head and there isn't anything that logic can do to change that.


Actually, while I was raised on MM/DD/YYYY, I've recently adopted YYYY/MM/DD pretty effortlessly, and I don't think anyone has had any problems understanding what I mean since it isn't much of a stretch from either of the other standards.

Montov wrote:How long is the night going to last? Well, my guestimate is that Cueball will wake up Megan halfway. So it's going to be a long night.


...And we have a winner! Maybe. Could be more or less than half, at the time of writing (current newpage: 980) I have no idea.

Wnderer wrote:
lotsofstars.png

I see lots of stars


Actually, yeah - this might be the answer to a lot of people's questions. There are a lot of stars there - you can see it in the mid-blue strata in this picture. But they're really hard to make out in the black-and white version.

BlitzGirl wrote:Image Yay, Time fanart:

Redundant spoiler:


I mentioned this in one of my somewhat-blind posts, but I cannot emphasize enough how awesome this, molpy fan art, and the cueball/kitten attack fanarts are! Blitzgirl, you're my hero.

edfel wrote:Hey! I don't think this kind of manip has been done before, so here it is !
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(each pixel has the max.luminosity over frames 2395-2418)
mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.

redundant spoiler


Made this a little more traditional looking by applying a motion blur:
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Mostly for visual effect since, as is pointed out a few posts down from this, the sky is a sphere and this is a linear motion blur!

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k.bookbinder wrote:Good mornix all. Molpy up!

What has Cueball just gathered? Stones? I see that, with no moon as reference, it seems nearly impossible to come to some consensus as to where and when they might be located, though, all analysis seems to get everyone in the same general latitudinal range.

Again though, I must ask, because I am still not quite satisfied, regarding our direction as observers: Is everyone assuming that, as we are observing Time, we are facing West and are parallel with latitudinal lines? Because we are not a part of Time, but apart from it, if we were faced Northwest or West by Northwest, would that not change the relative celestial positions, and therefore, change the outcome of the analysis?


We are assuming that we're facing generally west, because that's where the sun set.

We are not assuming that we're facing exactly west. In fact, the current apparent consensus (or at least, majority position) is that we are facing a little bit north of west, and that west is approximately toward the trunk of the prominent tree. Why we think that is a little hard to explain, but here goes.

Seaish explantion follows.
-seaish explanation-
*puts down chalk* Any questions?


Wow. Neat.

Before I read this post I thought the stars just sort of...scrolled across the sky :P Thanks for enlightening a young dragon in the ways of the sky! (Surely stellar navigation is useful while flying)

charlie_grumbles wrote:
Eutychus wrote:
TheMinim wrote:Back on page 199 there is talk of the text directly beneath the name. It is fairly interesting talk.
So does anyone have a quick and simple way of reaching page 199?

Just popped in for a second to help a tribe member.

At the top of any page, look for text like this:
Post a reply First unread post • 38759 posts • Page 969 of 969

Click on the last bit: Page xxx of yyy. You will get a form to fill in with a page number.
It will take you directly there.

Hi to all.
Back to the desert.


Wow. I didn't know this, and I've run a forum for a couple years now! Not to mention fiddled with phpBB's source code a number of times. Guess I never really touched the forum's pagination :P

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ChronosDragon wrote:OMR, the things I miss while on vacation! A quick-as-you-like meteor sequence which defied all known laws of newpix delivery, a return of the revered KarMann, and a wonderful hat from Vytron! Not to mention numerous wonderful filks! (Filkery? Filkings? Ottodies?)

Meanwhile, even while not on the thread my thoughts keep turning to it. I built a sandcastle on the beach today - and I can only conclude that Cuegan are wizards. Building such straight walls and large structures? There must be some magic involved. I could barely manage their first castle, stretched my limits to expand it with its second tower and connecting wall, and utterly failed to go beyond that in terms of replication. I have a newfound respect for their skills, in any case.

Maybe tonight I'll go out on the deck of my hotel room and look at the stars (assuming there are no clouds, which is an unlikely proposition on the shores of a Washington beach). The OTT has reminded me how I used to love astronomy, which I haven't thought much about since I was 8 or 9.

Happy Waiting, maybe I'll do a proper ketchup when I get back. Until then, ChronosDragon out Image

Your mistake was in using sand.

Case wrote:Well, since we're currently underneath the stars, watching shadows melt, which is my favourite place and time to be, and I've also noticed a fellow countryman here in the OTT, I guess I'll de-lurk myself. Too bad I don't have any unnoticed meteor pictures like the newposters before me to make this post worth it.

Anyway, even though I've only registered recently and pretty much out of convenience to keep better track of my ketchups, I was there at the dawn of the third newpix of Cuegankind. I witnessed the first semencaffeinecancerbabies crawl from the sea (which is big). I've seen the creation of Book of Aubron. I waited half an hour for one darkening pixel (and then did it again - Gee Willikers). I watched in astonisment the destruction of the castles before The Fading came upon it all. I've walked on the banks of the pretty neat river which doesn't look broken but is bigger than it looked (although not as big as the sea). I've seen molpies and facebugs play in the shade of the trees that know what they're doing and snakes and raptorcats attack the Cuegankind.

So, yeah. Hi. I'll be in the stern, waiting for...in the stern.

Welcome.


Well, you're probably right - but I didn't have any semencancercoffee on hand, so I had to make do with the second-best. Guess that's why it's second-best.

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More fanart - turned out a bit darker than anticipated, hope y'all can see it...

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Oh, and hi blitzing-the-past Minim!
(I know this is present BlitzGirl and not past BlitzGirl, but I had to say hi back!)


I know I already commented on this with your last fanart, but the quote-script makes it so easy to comment on every single thing ever! I love this, it's so 4!

Ximenez wrote:
NoMouse wrote:Also, has anyone noticed, that np2449 (according to mscha's count) is missing a star?

Good catch! A flying bird?


Someone (someone...) should take a census of all the missing stars (mostly taking note of locations on screen) to check if there's any discernible pattern. Although, perhaps once it begins lightening we'll know for sure.

Davidy wrote:According to Wikipedia, there are approximately 1600 magnitude 5 stars visible (and 4800 magnitude 6). Given that there is almost no light pollution and the Milky Way was brightly visible (usually becoming visible when magnitude 5 stars are visible), I would guess (even given that we are viewing only a small percentage, maybe 1/40, of the celestial globe) we should be seeing a lot more stars that we are. I know that when I have viewed the sky at one of the few truly dark spots in the US (and there are damned few of them), I was able to see an almost total blanket of stars.


They're going out! Oh my Randall, the stars are going out!

BlitzGirl wrote:Depends on the bat - I can definitely hear some types of batchirp.

NoMouse wrote:I'm pretty sure this is mustard. It looks really weird.

Yeah. Here's what it looks like on my browser:
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Gah - ninja'd by mscha!

Redundant:


It's a lot more subtle on firefox, where the sky is pretty much uniformly almost-black. On chrome, which seems to do some gamma correction, it's more obvious.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hajo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:51 am UTC

Arky wrote:Has the sky showed any sign of getting lighter, for those who can see things such as the exact hue of pixels?

That power can be yours, too :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kazza3 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:00 am UTC

mscha wrote:@Kazza3: great summary¹ of all the evidence.
A few comments:
Although the determined latitude is pretty certain, the longitude might not be, because of uncertainty with leap seconds. (The rotation of the earth slows down, very slowly, but in a somewhat unpredictable way. Over the course of 11,000 years, that might add up to enough uncertainty that the predicted rotation of the earth might be off by hours, and we could be in Europe or Asia.)
You also may want to consider Cassini Madagascar (or simply Africa) as a possibility, which brings some of the evidence closer together.


Thanks; added that to the summary, which is now the Setting page on the wiki. And re: Cassini Madagascar, the intention of the page wasn't to include theories of everything, just to be a group of all the evidence, from which people can draw their own conclusions elsewhere. (And I'm not a Cassinist anyway. :) )

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlueCrab » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:05 am UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
mscha wrote:Just a reminder, from np1830/np1831:
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I think at that time, we all thought that Megan was mistaken, or perhaps nuts. I do think, though, that a molpybat might be a sufficient explanation. Although, in my own experience, at my current geographic locations, molpybats are most active just after dusk. So late in the nix, would one expect molpybats? And could we detect such molpies?
Wasn't there a raised-eyebrow smiley around here somewhere? I never doubted her...
I've heard nighttime chirps many times. Some of them were clearly from a bird which had been woken by something and some were clearly idiot seagulls (seagulls are often idiots) but others were neither. I'm pretty sure they weren't bats; the bat calls I'm familiar with are very high-pitched and I would characterize them as a squeak rather than a chirp.
Sometimes there seemed to be one bird flying in a straight line which would pass overhead again somewhat later in the opposite direction, and sometimes there were two which would stay in the area for 15 minutes or more, chirping and answering every few minutes.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:18 am UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:Well, I'm rather coma deprived now and can hardly keep my eyes open, so coma ottermolpy time... I look forward to all your further astronomical analyses! But for now, molpy down. Pip pip!
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This image reminds me, I saw some sea lions this morning! None up close, unfortunately, but a couple bobbed their heads out of the water about 15q offshore and reminded me of your molpy down images :P

Oh yay! Reminds me of the time I went to Scotland on a bit of an adventure holiday and the engine in our little boat died a mile out to sea, we had to row back with the tiny emergency paddles, and the whole time we rowed back there were a bunch of seals following us, bobbing their heads up to take a look. Presumably they were just curious, but too scared to come up to us when the engine was running, then as soon as it died they started popping up... not really relevant to anything, it just reminded me of it :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Arky » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:28 am UTC

hajo wrote:
Arky wrote:Has the sky showed any sign of getting lighter, for those who can see things such as the exact hue of pixels?

That power can be yours, too :D


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Marsh'n » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:34 am UTC

Well, I've got about 5 hours to coma now before I have to start the workday, so happy sunrise to those who are keeping the faith.0
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:53 am UTC

This thread is too weird even for me.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:57 am UTC

HES wrote:
ggh wrote:HES, I'm with you on the name thing - completely.

Just to clarify, this includes the people I've been living with for a year

Working with, for me, but I've never shared a flat, so I don't know for sure. I am notoriously rude, in that I never do introductions for this very reason, even when I should be really comfortable with both parties' names. Worse, my facial recognition software is not very good, so I often don't recognize those I've met until I get to know them better. Too many times my "nice to meet you" has been met with a chilly "we've met." Embarrassing.
HES wrote:
ggh wrote:If it makes anyone feel any better, I have to hit the quote button to read anything under size 70 - and y'all do that all the time.

But I did find Valarya's substitution hilarious, as I assumed she meant "aroused".

I thought for a moment that your own text was under 70. You Borderline Hypocrite you! :P

Huh - actually I could read that. Guess it depends on which computer I'm on.... so :P back at ya. :P
SBN wrote:You might try just using control+
I paste the small stuff into a notepad, and yes, there is always some, and while it isn't always worth the effort, like with the redundicat spoilers, the occasional gem keeps me doing it.

Y'know, I'd heard that, but it didn't work and I didn't perservere. Now that you've suggested it, I gave it another go, and control+ still doesn't do anthing for me, but lo and behold, command+ does. So I'll use that from now on. Thanks, SBN!
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ggh wrote:But I did find Valarya's substitution hilarious, as I assumed she meant "aroused".

*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* ! (Or should I say *dong?* ;) ) We have a winner!.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:04 am UTC

KarMann wrote:One of my OCD quirks is that when I fall a bit behind (not just here, but in many other fora, comments, Facebook, email, etc.), I get intimidated by the pile before me, and avoid it, but I can't bear to read the new stuff without catching up with the old*, so it just gets bigger and bigger, and more and more intimidating, and usually I just eventually give up....

You have just described me perfectly. I've been caught between coma and ketchup, coding and charting, constellations and calculations, and a backlog of attempted timeodies that I can't quite finish (or start)─and there's still the Outside to consider. Today it just got to be too mustarding much. I lay down on the couch at noon with As Time Goes By* on the DVD─and crashed until 7pm. :( I'm still wiped, but I'm going to make at least a few replies, perhaps one for every twenty I'd like to make.

First, huge thanks to mscha, Kieryn, Rule110, edfel, NoMouse, and at least five or six others I've forgotten, including some low-posters and delurkers, for all the astronomical analysis, image processing, and general nerdiness and brilliance. Have you still been nerd-sniped if you managed to dodge the truck?

* Without even realizing the irony of my choice. :shock:

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ZoomanSP wrote:P.S.: This reminds me that I always wanted to become a Knight Temporal. Who do I have to bribe ask for an appointment these dix?

I think you can only get appointed to be a Knight Temporal by your future self who already is a Knight Temporal. Thus proving your worthiness and skillful use of Time.

Well, c─p. I've been meaning to ask BlitzGirl if, as the first Knight Temporal, she'd consider knighting me, if she thinks a lowly clerk is worthy of such an honor. Now what?

Skipping ottifactions:
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Pikrass wrote:Well, I really wanted to read [all the filks posted here], but for me it involves singing them along in my head, and there's no way I could have ketchupped quickly if I did.

I confess I also skip many of the timeodies posted herein. I also have to follow them in real time in my head and, besides, I really can't appreciate ones where I have no idea of the original tune─a shame, because I can appreciate how much work goes into some of them. And my French is nearly nonexistent, and my knowledge of French music is limited to Edith Piaf and Jacques Brel, so your "La Mer" is beyond me. However, I stopped to read your English translation, and found it quite poetic. Well done!

Hey, you!:
Spoiler:
Ximenez wrote:
mscha wrote:But what if there's ever only two of them, and they have no need to address other people? Would they use names then?

Two reasons to believe there are more than two of them: They live in (plural) tents and LaPetite. Of course they could share a name, i.e. be called the same way by others, something like our Cuegan. In such a case, would they call each other "Cuegan"? I believe "hey" is a way for GLR to avoid naming them. Maybe a name would carry too much information about their origin and whereabouts?

In first-person detective fiction, in particular, it's a popular convention to avoid naming the narrator. Dashiell Hammett's Continental Op comes to mind, for instance: several short stories and at least one novel, all without ever naming him. The technique occasionally leads to somewhat artificial phrasings, but it allows the writer to emphasize the crime rather than the detective, while also allowing readers to more easily project themselves into the narrator. (The Thin Man and The Maltese Falcon, to me, are much more about the detectives than the crimes, in contrast to the Continental Op stories.) I've seen it in SF stories, as well. I think Randall is making a deliberate choice here to keep as much of an Everyman / Everywoman feel to the characters as he can.
AnotherKevin wrote:I think that Cueball avoids calling Megan by name after the unfortunate incident where he called his ex-girlfriend by the name of his ex-ex-girlfriend, not yet having learnt that calling her 'darling' avoids the possibility of getting it wrong. :wink:

I just made sure that my current wife has the same name as my first (spelled differently, but said the same). Simple!

Hand-drawing:
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BlitzGirl wrote:It's possible Randall is making his own brushes in Photoshop, using photographs as reference. I use grass brushes whenever I can, because it's a great shortcut. However, given the complexity of past othercomics, I think it's more plausible that Randall has been drawing Time by hand. "Phantom image-producing commercial entity" seems rather silly.

I've commented before that there's a stylized and distinctly fractal character to many of Randall's trees, in the OTC and in "Click and Drag", leading me to think that they were generated algorithmically; I even wondered about the acres of grass and weed in "C&D". But I know from experience that tuning such an algorithm to get exactly the look you want is an art in itself. Just my opinion.

And now that I've spent an hour and a half (including distractions) on this one ketchup post, it's coma time for me again. "WatchWait the skies, everywhere! Keep looking. Keep watchingwaiting the skies!" Good night, Mrs. MobTeeseboose, wherever you are!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:09 am UTC

Just an ONG before I go, a lesson to be learned...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:29 am UTC

Friends, I have noticed something most disturbing!

Well actually it's pretty minor. But I think it counts as mustard.

In the chirp-frame 2 newpix ago, just above the word "chirp," there is a single darkened pixel. It's #010101, while the surrounding pixels are all #020202
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I came upon it while searching for flying molpies in the last few newpix.

If this means what I think this means, the GLR erred when blinking out one of the stars - which means, if he erred with the other ones as well, the blinking ones might be eminently traceable. So far, no other visible signs of raptormolpies, avian or otherwise.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Latent22 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:30 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:Just an ONG before I go, a lesson to be learned...
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What are they doing? They are Chirping. You will need to read my dictionary definition I posted to understand what that really means.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:35 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:
KarMann wrote:One of my OCD quirks is that when I fall a bit behind (not just here, but in many other fora, comments, Facebook, email, etc.), I get intimidated by the pile before me, and avoid it, but I can't bear to read the new stuff without catching up with the old*, so it just gets bigger and bigger, and more and more intimidating, and usually I just eventually give up....

You have just described me perfectly. I've been caught between coma and ketchup, coding and charting, constellations and calculations, and a backlog of attempted timeodies that I can't quite finish (or start)─and there's still the Outside to consider. Today it just got to be too mustarding much. I lay down on the couch at noon with As Time Goes By* on the DVD─and crashed until 7pm. :( I'm still wiped, but I'm going to make at least a few replies, perhaps one for every twenty I'd like to make.



It definitely can be a challenge to keep up with the pace around here. I sometimes find it a little intimidating, and I have been here since the early frames. And that is without the burden of analysis and creativity.

Too be honest, I sometimes feel guilty that I do not contribute more. But alas, I feel I've neither the skills/know-how or tools to provide the kind of analysis and creativity others have contributed. So I would like to, once again, give my thanks to all those who take the time to provide the rest of us with so much information and entertainment. You all make it hard to stay current :wink: , but also give us all something to stay current with. :D Thanks!

By the way, As Time Goes By is one of my favorite series!

Cueball does not seem to be very much a'coma. Who is the "they" that he is wondering about?

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Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:50 am UTC

"They" must be the nightchirpies we can't see. Image

jjjdavidson wrote:
Latent22 wrote:
ZoomanSP wrote:P.S.: This reminds me that I always wanted to become a Knight Temporal. Who do I have to bribe ask for an appointment these dix?

I think you can only get appointed to be a Knight Temporal by your future self who already is a Knight Temporal. Thus proving your worthiness and skillful use of Time.

Well, c─p. I've been meaning to ask BlitzGirl if, as the first Knight Temporal, she'd consider knighting me, if she thinks a lowly clerk is worthy of such an honor. Now what?

Oh, missed this the first time round (distracted by mome-doings). The custom of self-knighting is actually outdated, a relic from the pix before my blitz ended. The practice was ceased because of worries it could be exploited. I'm pretty sure the current custom is that any Knight Temporal can knight others, though nobody has actually asked to be knighted on a newpage since the mid-500s. I was the one to knight mathrec and Angelastic, and I think that StratPlayer did a knighting for someone at one point, too.

So, if any of y'all want to be Knights Temporal, just let me or one of the other Knights know. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:52 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:"They" must be the nightchirpies we can't see. Image

jjjdavidson wrote:
Latent22 wrote:
ZoomanSP wrote:P.S.: This reminds me that I always wanted to become a Knight Temporal. Who do I have to bribe ask for an appointment these dix?

I think you can only get appointed to be a Knight Temporal by your future self who already is a Knight Temporal. Thus proving your worthiness and skillful use of Time.

Well, c─p. I've been meaning to ask BlitzGirl if, as the first Knight Temporal, she'd consider knighting me, if she thinks a lowly clerk is worthy of such an honor. Now what?

Oh, missed this the first time round (distracted by mome-doings). The custom of self-knighting is actually outdated, a relic from the pix before my blitz ended. The practice was ceased because of worries it could be exploited. I'm pretty sure the current custom is that any Knight Temporal can knight others, though nobody has actually asked to be knighted on a newpage since the mid-500s. I was the one to knight mathrec and Angelastic, and I think that StratPlayer did a knighting for someone at one point, too.

So, if any of y'all want to be Knights Temporal, just let me or one of the other Knights know. :)


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:00 am UTC

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Oh and an Othercomix reminder...
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