1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:21 am UTC

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First things first. Happy 400th, yappo, happy 500th, jjj!
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Very ⁴ otter pirate song, yappobiscuits!
Goggalor, sorry to read about your Outside troubles... Good luck!

Latent22 wrote:Thought I would just brainstorm some solutions quickly.
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1. We leave the Wiki linked to geekwagon and are confused by numbers till the end of time.
2. We give in and convert to geekwagon numbering even though we may think it doesn't make sense 100%.
3. We link the wiki to http://xkcd.mscha.org/viewer/2629 and now they have to do click an extra link if they wanted the geekwagon viewable experience. Also their will be some confusion when going from wiki to geekwagon as the numbers change and when viewing geekwagon the numbers are not easily used in OTT conversations etc. Over time you can slowly add more cool stuff to the viewer.
4. You add a new bit to your wonderful website with geekwagon and Aubron frame redirects so that http://xkcd.mscha.org/geekwagon/2629 will instantly redirect to the geekwagon frame without the user even being aware. Then update the frame links in the wiki so that they go to this redirect so that the user clicks a link saying frame 2629 and gets to geekwagon on frame 2634. Still some confusion.
5. Create a wiki template that takes in the canonical frame number as the input and returns a valid link. This template can then be changed in one place to change how it displays the link on the wiki and what it links to. This keeps all frame links consistent in the wiki and would also allow it to do the maths to convert from canonical to GW/BA numbering if needed. Also we could try making each frame reference display extra info in the wiki if required like displaying other numbers in brackets or something. And then we can have a cool wiki editing battle where people constantly edit the template to switch the numbering between yours and gweekwagon and back again.
6. Try and convert Geekwagon or Aubron to your numbering system which may involve removing meteor frames as I think it only handles sequential frames.
7. Fork geekwagon (it's on github) to make one that does canonical numbering
Anyway just some ideas and options to think about.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, I like option 3.
I tried option 6 for Geekwagon, no success.
Option 4 I could fairly easily do, but it adds another link to the chain: if either my site or Geekwagon's has problems, the link is dead.
ggh wrote:
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Kazza3 wrote:
ggh wrote:Currently on Geekwagon, gw2452 is showing up as a very dark version of gw2456 for me. Is anyone else seeing that?

Nope, all fine for me.

Huh. Fine for me now too.
mojacardave wrote:Nope, but gw2471 is showing the heretical mustardy variant of the frame for me.
Looks like Geekwagon has all the mustard....

Perhaps another argument for my site, where you can see both versions plus the difference?

robbak wrote:As someone used "Walk AlONG" as their newpix caption, I had to OTTify Dell Shannon's "Runaway",
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As they walk along they wonder,
What went wrong with their sea,
A sea the watched so long

And as they still walk on they talked about
The things they've seen together,
Since their walk begun.

They are walking up the hill
Molpy scratched but they're walking still,
Finding rivers, mountains, towers, plants,
To conquer every ignorance,

And they wonder,
Why why why why wonder,
Why,
Why why why why why,
Things appear this way,

And they wonder,
Why things are this way,
And having fun this way,
Fun, fun, fun fun fun this way.....

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kazza3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:24 am UTC

Prediction: The person they meet looks exactly like like LaPetite, as does everyone else in their community, and all they'll say is... "Are you my mummy?"

Ok, I'm kidding. All they'll say is
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:I've got a request for any Waiter that's interested. I'm working on another idea, and I'd like to know: What were the most significant frames for you? Not your favorite frames in retrospect, but the ones that made the biggest impression in real time─the ones that encouraged you to keep following Time, no matter how long it went on.

Specifically, I'd like for you to please make me two lists:
  1. The five (or six or whatever) newpix that gave you the biggest "Neat!" or "OMR!" or "Wow!" or "D'awwww!" reaction when you first saw them. (If it was a series of frames, I'd like the one that first seemed particularly impressive.)
  2. Your five (or whatever) biggest cliffhangers: the individual newpix that had you most anxious to see what came next.

Finally went through and picked my impact and suspense frames. I picked many. If you want me to do a cull, or a ranking, let me know - (maybe by PM?) and I will - likewise, if you'd like an explanation of any: some are obvious but some are obscure (like the first molpy confirmation).
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impact:
881
1241
1554
1604
1885
1933
2115
2225
2394
2440c
2586
2612

suspense:
521
676
998
1351
1360
1434
1437
1548
1728
1837
1860
2179
2188
2196
2253
2358
2552
2611
All numbers are mscha's canonical ones.

Besides these, I found most of the dialogue suspenseful to some degree, but mostly left those frames off the list.


And in the make-more-work-for-you department: jjjdavidson, could you make me one of your graphs too? (only if it's not much trouble.) I'm guessing my posting times will be all over the show....



ETA for the pope: I predict they'll get a curious reply, like "Hi! Are you here for the pick-up?" or some such.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:42 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Eee, Squirpirate! This would be an appropriate time to link to a song I wrote about OTTER pirates :mrgreen:
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ETA for the pope: I predict they won't get a response, since they are still too far away. They'll have to continue walking and we have to
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:00 am UTC

Too lONG a distance to hear.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:01 am UTC

Ninja'd
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Too far to hear-ONG:
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ZoomanSP predicted it correctly!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:04 am UTC

Good mornix all. Molpy up!

People, they say? Well, person anyway. I do hope that, assuming the person they see is real, means them no harm.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby FullOfIt » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:08 am UTC

BlueCrab wrote:
FullOfIt wrote:This reminded me of a book by one of my favourite authors, Stephen Baxter: Flood. There it is huge underground reservoirs of water that flood the world. Slightly recommendable. I prefer his hard SF books, and these are more of a sociorealistic (?) variety. Nevertheless: Stephen Baxter. Recommended.
Stephen Baxter is my Arch-Nemesis, and he has absolutely no idea that this is the case. He has gone and written three of the books in my head, and one of them he took way beyond what I was thinking.
I'm going to pick up the book you mentioned, FullOfIt, and second the recommendation of him as an author. Bast Baxter's good.

Hehe.

He's got his ups and downs, but one thing's for sure (and this ties nicely in to the OTC): You can almost never predict where his stories are going. Not even a hint of adhering to common storytelling devices. Which is nice.

Oh, while we're talking authors I'd like to pay back to the forum (which has given me so many great recommendations) with some recommendations of my own:

Karl Schroeder. SF unlike most other I've read. His Virga series combines low tech and ridiculously high tech.
Richard Morgan. He writes mostly SF, but also some very hard-boiled (and innovative) fantasy. The worlds he creates in his Takeshi Kovacs novels is mindbogglingly detailed. Morgan literally (;)) covers his world with technological and other details making them ridiculously realistic. There's enough throwaway ideas in his books to fill a library. Almost. :)
Joe Haldeman. His books are mostly rather short and standalone, which is nice since you don't have to invest so much time. He's got nice ideas, and writes quality stuff.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:19 am UTC

FullOfIt wrote:
BlueCrab wrote:
FullOfIt wrote:This reminded me of a book by one of my favourite authors, Stephen Baxter: Flood. There it is huge underground reservoirs of water that flood the world. Slightly recommendable. I prefer his hard SF books, and these are more of a sociorealistic (?) variety. Nevertheless: Stephen Baxter. Recommended.
Stephen Baxter is my Arch-Nemesis, and he has absolutely no idea that this is the case. He has gone and written three of the books in my head, and one of them he took way beyond what I was thinking.
I'm going to pick up the book you mentioned, FullOfIt, and second the recommendation of him as an author. Bast Baxter's good.

Hehe.

He's got his ups and downs, but one thing's for sure (and this ties nicely in to the OTC): You can almost never predict where his stories are going. Not even a hint of adhering to common storytelling devices. Which is nice.

Oh, while we're talking authors I'd like to pay back to the forum (which has given me so many great recommendations) with some recommendations of my own:

Karl Schroeder. SF unlike most other I've read. His Virga series combines low tech and ridiculously high tech.
Richard Morgan. He writes mostly SF, but also some very hard-boiled (and innovative) fantasy. The worlds he creates in his Takeshi Kovacs novels is mindbogglingly detailed. Morgan literally (;)) covers his world with technological and other details making them ridiculously realistic. There's enough throwaway ideas in his books to fill a library. Almost. :)
Joe Haldeman. His books are mostly rather short and standalone, which is nice since you don't have to invest so much time. He's got nice ideas, and writes quality stuff.

Do we have a book recommendations page on the Wiki?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby sford » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:48 am UTC

Prediction: Megan will wave her beautiful red flag, and the strangers will run away. She'll look at the flag and say, "neat".

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Postby azule » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:50 am UTC

CameronCat wrote:<snip>your Vincent adaptation <snip>

That word would have been useful in our defilk-enottification discussion. I love it. That's what these creative works are. Adaptations to "our" culture. :) :) Oddaptation isn't as pretty a word, but probably more accurate than filk. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Khrushy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:51 am UTC

Haven't posted in a few days, so here are my thoughts.

This either isn't actually the planet earth, or Act 1 wasn't actually by the sea, as we know it. Assuming the comments about "the air being different" and them being tired are supposed to relate to altitude sickness, there's nowhere on earth that would allow someone to, on foot, walk from sea level to that altitude in the timeframe the comic has so far suggested. (That and, you know, the beach has flooded to an apparent depth of several metres, which is a hell of a high tide).
Also. Boab trees. The appearance of them is somewhat otherworldly as well, as their earthly habitats don't really match up with anything else we've been shown so far.

I personally favour the train of thought that this is all based in a fantasy land which just resembles our world enough to firmly cement our expectations about how things behave. Otherwise, if I'm sticking on Earth, then I like the idea that Act 1 was by a large, dammed, lake, and the seatm rising has been due to either a partial dam burst or overflow. It would also likely put them at a high enough altitude (and close enough to the mountains) for the rest of the scenes to fit in.

Re: predictions for the person they saw? He won't see them, and will disappear over the hill. No communication or meetings with others will happen at this time.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:52 am UTC

OMR! People!

I've been following on my phone over the wipend but completely missed the castlepockalypse flashback :( BYE

Exciting times ahead.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:01 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:18 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time" TdF Update

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:26 pm UTC

No race today in the 100th edition of the TdF. The tour was first run in 1903 and was only interrupted by the two world wars. I'll spoiler some background on teams and organization of the TdF for those who care.
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Professional Bicycle Riders and Teams are licensed by the UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale). They make rules for eligibility, doping, race scoring, and a lot of other things around pro bike racing of all sorts (track, road, cross, etc). They have quite a lot of control over the three big stage races (TdF, Giro d'Italia, and Vuelta a Espania) as well as many others, though they don't directly run those races. UCI licenses both men and women and there are women's teams and races. Some teams are mixed, especially in the US.

A team such as Radio Shack isn't normally owned by its chief sponsor, but might be in part. Lance Armstrong helped found that team and was part owner at one time. A team is a private association, but must be licensed by UCI to participate in the major races. Likewise the individual racers are licensed and they contract with one of the teams to ride for a season, but Radio Shack riders aren't employees of Radio Shack, but of the team. A team normally has about 30 riders, though only 9 of them can participate in the TdF. Riders get a salary, plus bonuses. The salary varies widely from rider to rider as not all have the same reputation or the same expectations. A team budget for a season might be a few millions of Dollars/Euro/Pounds. The riders on a team participating in the TdF who are not part of the nine, will be riding other races, or preparing for such.

The TdF is actually run by a French Organization (duh), Amaury Sport Organisation (ASO). UCI and ASO have had their fights in the past. The ASO reserves the right to invite (and disinvite) UCI teams. They like to have a lot of French teams in the TdF as you would expect. The infighting has led to rider boycots in the past, actually. This situation is similar with the organizers of the other big stage races (national organizers, fights, ...)

A TdF team normally consists of a Leader, several specialists (sprinters, climbers), and a few "servants" called domestiques. A domestique is expected to take care of the leader (and others, depending on the day) by fetching water bottles, snacks, rain gear, or whatever. Even a major rider like Greipel or a team leader (Sagan) will do duty as a domestique on a day that doesn't favor them. Lance Armstrong often did this duty, loading up his jersey's pockets with eight water bottles for the team. Greg LeMond started his European career as a domestique. Usually the team is expected to put the leader in the Yellow in Paris, though some teams have other goals. Some just want to win a lot of stages. Being in the limelight is good for the sponsors, of course.

Normally team members wear the team's jersey. There are exceptions such as the Yellow, of course, but there are others. The winner of the UCI world championship road race is expected to wear a white jersey with a rainbow of bands across the chest. Similarly, national champions are expected to wear the national jersey. Sagan would be in the Slovakia national champions jersey if he wasn't in Green. If you look closely, you can see bands on the sleeves of some of the riders indicating such things when they are in a premium jersey. I think that past world champions are allowed to wear the rainbow on their sleeve as well. Philippe Gilbert of Belgium is the current world champion in the road race. He is now riding for BMC, and in this year's Tour. There are several national champions as well.

Tuesday at 1300(Continental) the TdF will cross the neck of the Brest peninsula in a rolling, fast course with no serious climbs. The sprinters will get to play again for 197km
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Re: 1190: "Time" TdF Update

Postby cellocgw » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:31 pm UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:No race today in the 100th edition of the TdF. The tour was first run in 1903 and was only interrupted by the two world wars.


I remember seeing a photo from pre WW1, I think, of a bunch of riders smoking cigars as they went -- not on the final day or anything like that. They used to stop for beer breaks, too. Things have changed a bit.

Back to OTT: why would Megan yell to the apparent other person? They're not in immediate need of help, and it's not like the existence of people is a shock to Cuegan.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:33 pm UTC

Karhell's letters to the TimeWaiters, from the foot of NP620.

No wall of text this time, since I forgot to take notes :oops:
Also, the Outside has been getting in the way quite a bit this wipend... I'll have to correct that.

Where I am, Cuegan have reached a tree1, and are currently taking a nap.
Talk has been going on of their geographical location, some more poetry, and an awful lot of vegetation-related puns (much to BlitzGirl's displeasure, and growing annoyance).

Also, some interesting image-manips illustrating the OneTrueCat

1 neat

And then this.
Vytron wrote:I can't take it anymore! Just read The Second Controversy Of What People Should Be Posting and it was greatly disheartening to read that about half the thread got sick of blitzers like, 9 days ago (so the news that it's old are already old!), they skip the "epigones", they hate the reports of blitzers on blitzers, and think the thread should be about the OTC and not this bad recursion.

It hurt in the stomach to have that realization, I had already gotten a few vibes of it, but reading about it all in one sitting is a real mood-killer. They want us to spoiler the whole thing so they can skip it faster!

I know the other half of people enjoy reading about the progress and appreciate the richness of the thread, but this awareness of it just makes it impossible to continue (the thing I dislike the most is causing drama; the biggest drama in the thread was about blitzers). So this is my last SignPost. I don't want to feel like this anymore.

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I will continue to ketchup to the present, though now, silently, and will eagerly wait for the SignPosts of other blitzers like VoronX and TheMinim and other travelers (hopefully they have a thicker skin than me!), which really, are the meat and potatoes of this thread to me, Cueball and Megan can keep looking at the river forever...

<- Will now continue reporting my progress in the Location bar... Oh wait, it's this way -> or not...

See you in the present!

Oh dear. I'd been enjoying your signposts immensely, so far. It's a bit of a shame to see them come to an end like that. Hopefully we'll still meet in the future.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:38 pm UTC



Hm. That may actually be plausible.

@Charlie_Grumbles Thanks for the update and history lesson. Of course, no one in my office cares about the TdF. So, unfortunately, I currently have no means of showing off my new found knowledge. Oh, well. They all think I'm nuts anyway.
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Re: 1190: "Time" TdF Update

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:43 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:I remember seeing a photo from pre WW1, I think, of a bunch of riders smoking cigars as they went -- not on the final day or anything like that. They used to stop for beer breaks, too. Things have changed a bit.

However, if you look carefully at some of those old pictures, the muscles on their legs stand out amazingly. They weren't loafing, probably.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:48 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:


Hm. That may actually be plausible.

@Charlie_Grumbles Thanks for the update and history lesson. Of course, no one in my office cares about the TdF. So, unfortunately, I currently have no means of showing off my new found knowledge. Oh, well. They all think I'm nuts anyway.



The other possibility is an invisible barrier and some large print writing appearing before them: "You cannot go that way".
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:52 pm UTC

Latent22 wrote:Maybe the future world not only has rising sea issues but lower oxygen levels as well...

The only other options are that we missed much of the climbing frames or GLR is not only playing trickses with compressed/expanded time but also with height/distance.

That's... actually possible. If the rising sea is caused in part by the collapse of the ice caps into the general ocean, the rapid lowering of sea temperatures would kill off certain mosses, microbes and krill which produce a significant portion of the earth's oxygen. Of course, if that were happening, they'd likeley all be dead, since phytoplankton add 60+ percent of the atmosphere's oxygen...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:58 pm UTC

Khrushy wrote:Haven't posted in a few days, so here are my thoughts.

This either isn't actually the planet earth, or Act 1 wasn't actually by the sea, as we know it. Assuming the comments about "the air being different" and them being tired are supposed to relate to altitude sickness,

I suppose we're not talking full blown altitude sickness, so they aren't necessarily that high...

there's nowhere on earth that would allow someone to, on foot, walk from sea level to that altitude in the timeframe the comic has so far suggested.

Well, I know a place where you can go from sea level to 4500 ft in 3 hours. They've been on the road for an unknown but presumably not to small number of days now...

(That and, you know, the beach has flooded to an apparent depth of several metres, which is a hell of a high tide).

There are places with tidal ranges of easily 10 meters and more, but we're pretty sure that that's not what we're seeing. They've commented on the regular changes in sea level they're used to...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby foilman » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:00 pm UTC

Hey-ONG!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:07 pm UTC

foilman wrote:Hey-ONG!
Spoiler:
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Running and shouting!! I'm freaking out man, we're going to see people soon, I can just feel it.

Prediction: The other people will be on a quest from somewhere else to see why their sea is shrinking.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:17 pm UTC

foilman wrote:Hey-ONG!
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So the big question: Friend or foe?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:18 pm UTC

I'd have to say I'm in the statue camp; it seems most-likely. Makes you wonder, though.. with all this talk of them being 11k years in the future and finding abandoned things, it's even more strange that La Petite was where she was, all sneaky like.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Whizbang » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:18 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:
foilman wrote:Hey-ONG!
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So the big question: Friend or foe?


It looks like a small tree to me...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:23 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
foilman wrote:Hey-ONG!
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So the big question: Friend or foe?


It looks like a small tree to me...


No no no no no! It's not. It's clearly a shrubbery.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:25 pm UTC

TimeLurker wrote:
foilman wrote:Hey-ONG!
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Running and shouting!! I'm freaking out man, we're going to see people soon, I can just feel it.

Prediction: The other people will be on a quest from somewhere else to see why their sea is shrinking.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jovialbard » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:25 pm UTC

Blindpost:

Cool! A structure! I think it holds a telescope... or it's a windmill? I'm sure you guys have already figured it out :)
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Cool! People in the distance!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby FullOfIt » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:26 pm UTC

I'm reading her body language, and the way the HEY is drawn, as slightly aggressive.

Perhaps it's a mischievous kid who's let the faucets run in the public bathroom, flooding everything, making the sea rise...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fhorn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:29 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:No no no no no! It's not. It's clearly a shrubbery.

Firstly they must find.... another shrubbery!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Khrushy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:31 pm UTC

Zorin_75 wrote:
Khrushy wrote:there's nowhere on earth that would allow someone to, on foot, walk from sea level to that altitude in the timeframe the comic has so far suggested.

Well, I know a place where you can go from sea level to 4500 ft in 3 hours. They've been on the road for an unknown but presumably not to small number of days now...


Yeah, but 4500ft (~1.5km) doesn't even count as high altitude - typically that's considered the absolute starting range for any changes in altitude to noticeably affect your performance, and the duration of their trip would actually offset any symptoms of the changes in altitude (when climbing at altitude you're supposed to take several days to gradually ascend to allow your body to steadily aclimate to the thinner atmosphere - if done properly you should be fine up to about 2.5km up even if you're somewhat unfit).

I mean, sure, we could argue over the details, but the short version is that, to me, nothing about their trip (including travel time and the angle of the climb) seems to imply they've actually rapidly climbed a huge mountain, yet we're seeing symptoms of thin atmosphere, in a world filled with tons of other wacky inconsistencies too.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:34 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:35 pm UTC

Reading Karhell's letters to the TimeWaiters, from the foot of NP620, and then visiting that page for nostalgia, I am reminded that we haven't seen any noir for a bit. ChronosDragon, anything new on the horizon? I'd been enjoying it.

There's a page on the Time wiki for literature created here. It has a few entries, but many authors are not represented here. I hope they will step forward and put their works on the list!

Can't listen to ottifications right now as there are people asleep, but I'm looking forward to them.

Kieryn wrote:The other possibility is an invisible barrier and some large print writing appearing before them: "You cannot go that way".
Or a black knight, saying "Thou shalt not pass!".

Your first possiblility (The mirror) is similar to "Second Earth", an independent film that came out about a year or so ago, and was surprisingly good. I think most timewaiters would enjoy it; it had a limited release to I'm not sure where you'd find it.

Hmmmm - people. I would say that now could be the start of the second act. While they only started looking for people because of Megan's injury, actually finding and interacting with them has the potential of changing the dynamic of the story, and also propelling the initial impetus (does that make sense?) of what is broken in their world... i.e. finding out why the sea is rising. All prior has been just looking around and saying "wow", "neat", and "look out!", by way of showing us the world they are in, and hinting at their relationship with it (and to some extent, with each other). But realistically speaking (wait - that was heresy!), the two of them are not likely to be able to "fix" the world by themselves, nor (for the story's sake) is the problem likely to be so simple.

The story has some of the flavor of Ringworld.

prediction: The people they find (they will be people) will ultimately turn out to be not what they seemed, be it friend/foe, smart/dumb, mastermind/victim... something that will lead the Cuegan one way and then they discover the truth about them, complicating matters.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:35 pm UTC

fhorn wrote:
Kieryn wrote:No no no no no! It's not. It's clearly a shrubbery.

Firstly they must find.... another shrubbery!


One that looks nice.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:36 pm UTC

My prediction: alternating rot13 Morse with the dots and dashes of each letter arranged in clockwise (for the first and last letter of each word) and anticlockwise (for other letters) spirals, with the dots being circles attached to any surrounding dashes, to form funny-looking liney-circly glyphs. The underlying text is in Indonesian.

If that is indeed the code used, then GLR reads the thread.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:38 pm UTC

ucim wrote:Hmmmm - people. I would say that now could be the start of the second act. While they only started looking for people because of Megan's injury, actually finding and interacting with them has the potential of changing the dynamic of the story, and also propelling the initial impetus (does that make sense?) of what is broken in their world... i.e. finding out why the sea is rising. All prior has been just looking around and saying "wow", "neat", and "look out!", by way of showing us the world they are in, and hinting at their relationship with it (and to some extent, with each other). But realistically speaking (wait - that was heresy!), the two of them are not likely to be able to "fix" the world by themselves, nor (for the story's sake) is the problem likely to be so simple.


Had not thought of that, but yes.. now I can see it that way. That would be truly epic and neat.
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