1190: "Time"

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Re: Further Map Investigation

Postby tresoldi » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:32 pm UTC

waveney wrote:
tresoldi wrote:
waveney wrote:I tried looking at the map in 2906 to as well as 2907 to see if there was any dithering - there wasn't :cry:

However it did allow a closer invesigation of the areas covered with the dashed coastline, so here is version 3:

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Someone has already said that 13 (and perhaps 4) could be the Tyrrhenian sea. In a comment, "edo" pointed in my blog that 8 could be the Rhone, but I think it could also be one of the labels in 9.


13 Accepted - I had seen the note and then carefully forgot to act upon it.
4 It is labelling something else and I thick it is the square dot (but could be the river2)
8 I will indicate that it could be the Rhone but agree it could be one of those in 9

Also add 14: River2 flowing through the Straight of Messina. So it might be called the Messina. And possible rivers for 11 and 17.

So Current features are now:
Version 3.1: Modification to locations 8, 11, 13, 14, 17

1. Clear Square dot and some small writing - Bilbao?
2. Another Square dot - somewhere in the region of Carcassone to Beziers. Carcassone might be a good working assumption
3. Possible dot -could be Huelva or some place near it
4. Another Square dot and some small writing - New Rome?
5. Known Gibraltar beanish 933
6. Known Baleric Sea in Beanish
7. Known Ionian Sea in Beanish
8. Beanish 34cGX Perhaps the name of the river – the Rhone, but it might be in 9
9. Two Beanish Labels: 2JMX' and 433? The castle also appears to have a square blob.
10. Writing? (I no longer think there is a Square dot, as not on other page)
11. River name? Rio Segura?
12. Another named Sea? Adriatic?
13. Another named Sea? Tyrrhenian sea?
14. Name of River? This flows through the straight of Messina so might be called the River Messina.
15. Another named Sea? Adriatic?
16. Duck? (See unenhanced) with writing above partially hidden by dashed coastline.
17. River name? Possibly the Bradano?
18. The heavy dotted line here overlaps - might be mustard
19. Writing hidden by dashed coastline.


I forgot to add that, regarding 8, if we consider that there seems to be a correlation between the prefix (ᘊ)ᓭ- and nouns (and, in particular, between ᘊᓭ- and "water"), ᘊᓭᑦᑕᖉ is probably a common noun, just like ᘊᖊ,ᓄ ("sea"). It could be simply "river", maybe an autonomasy (it is, after all, the river closer to the Beanies).

I'm much more interested in ᘖᓄᘈᖉᐣ, which I believe is a proper noun.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby kasmeneo » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:57 pm UTC

Finally ketched up. As has been said before, there have been SO MANY wonderful OTTifications, in prose, poetry and image, that it's almost impossible to list and appreciate them all. A roundful of thanks and 7 to all y'all contributors!

I have rescaled my photomanip of frame m1513 to match the OTC size and aspect ratio.
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Edited for proper redundancy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Whizbang » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:10 pm UTC

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Re: Further Map Investigation

Postby trolleypup » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:16 pm UTC

waveney wrote:
tresoldi wrote:
waveney wrote:I tried looking at the map in 2906 to as well as 2907 to see if there was any dithering - there wasn't :cry:

However it did allow a closer invesigation of the areas covered with the dashed coastline, so here is version 3:
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Someone has already said that 13 (and perhaps 4) could be the Tyrrhenian sea. In a comment, "edo" pointed in my blog that 8 could be the Rhone, but I think it could also be one of the labels in 9.


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13 Accepted - I had seen the note and then carefully forgot to act upon it.
4 It is labelling something else and I thick it is the square dot (but could be the river2)
8 I will indicate that it could be the Rhone but agree it could be one of those in 9

Also add 14: River2 flowing through the Straight of Messina. So it might be called the Messina. And possible rivers for 11 and 17.


So Current features are now:
Version 3.1: Modification to locations 8, 11, 13, 14, 17

1. Clear Square dot and some small writing - Bilbao?
2. Another Square dot - somewhere in the region of Carcassone to Beziers. Carcassone might be a good working assumption
3. Possible dot -could be Huelva or some place near it
4. Another Square dot and some small writing - New Rome?
5. Known Gibraltar beanish 933
6. Known Baleric Sea in Beanish
7. Known Ionian Sea in Beanish
8. Beanish 34cGX Perhaps the name of the river – the Rhone, but it might be in 9
9. Two Beanish Labels: 2JMX' and 433? The castle also appears to have a square blob.
10. Writing? (I no longer think there is a Square dot, as not on other page)
11. River name? Rio Segura?
12. Another named Sea? Adriatic?
13. Another named Sea? Tyrrhenian sea?
14. Name of River? This flows through the straight of Messina so might be called the River Messina.
15. Another named Sea? Adriatic?
16. Duck? (See unenhanced) with writing above partially hidden by dashed coastline.
17. River name? Possibly the Bradano?
18. The heavy dotted line here overlaps - might be mustard
19. Writing hidden by dashed coastline.

The rivers don't seem to be consistently labeled. One would expect the major rivers to be labeled, but the Ebro has none, nor does the Gibraltar. My personal suspicion is the faint lines that parallel the rivers indicate not words, but escarpments along the rivers. So 11, the long line next to the Tunis, all the lines around the Douro may not be labels? Alternatively, if they are writing, add 20 for the Tunis River, and maybe something for the Douro.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby the_Dex » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:20 pm UTC

Seriously, at the rate I'm going....

Time: the final frontier.
These are the voyages of the forumship EndofTime.
Its five-yip mission:
        to explore strange new words,
        to seek out new frames and new OTTifications,
        to slowly go where all OTTers have gone before.

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Re: Further Map Investigation

Postby waveney » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:38 pm UTC

trolleypup wrote:The rivers don't seem to be consistently labeled.

Agreed
trolleypup wrote:One would expect the major rivers to be labeled, but the Ebro has none, nor does the Gibraltar. My personal suspicion is the faint lines that parallel the rivers indicate not words, but escarpments along the rivers. So 11, the long line next to the Tunis, all the lines around the Douro may not be labels? Alternatively, if they are writing, add 20 for the Tunis River, and maybe something for the Douro.


As to what is labbeled it would depend on the original reason for the map, it would be those features of importance to the beanies. Gibraltar would be a small insignificant river2 before time.

As for escarpments - I thought this but there are many imporant escarpments not shown, and some of those indicated would be very minor. I have looked at both Tunis and Douro and personally don't think they are writing but might be simply tributaries.

While 11 and 17 follow the river2 14 does not.

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Re: Further Map Investigation

Postby Selcouth » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:13 pm UTC

trolleypup wrote:The rivers don't seem to be consistently labeled. One would expect the major rivers to be labeled, but the Ebro has none, nor does the Gibraltar. My personal suspicion is the faint lines that parallel the rivers indicate not words, but escarpments along the rivers. So 11, the long line next to the Tunis, all the lines around the Douro may not be labels? Alternatively, if they are writing, add 20 for the Tunis River, and maybe something for the Douro.


Also, we don't know whether the writing correlates at all to modern names of the rivers, mountain ranges, etc.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:19 pm UTC

MicroBlitz report, NP1309-1313

⁴fulsome ottifications from dawnfire (sweet!), AluisioASG, azule, AluisioASG again (hábil!), and again (uau!)!
⁴someful colorizations/manips from AnotherKevin, Rule110 (interesting variation), HES, BlitzGirl (it'd better not!), Whizbang (eeew), Ebonite, MajorDouble7, schwartzbewithyou, StratPlayer, NoMouse, charlie_grumbles, yappobiscuits, Whizbang, Valarya, jjjdavidson, superluminal (I wish...)!
⁷terful OTThercomics from Whizbang (...), Whizbang again!

⁷some height map, Kieryn! (But .bmp? Seriously?) Looks pretty similar to this one, but more sciency instead of artsy. Image

CasCat wrote:Mscha: Request from my-sister-the-lurker: "could you ask mscha if there was a way to have his view have a setting to automatically darken the lightest frames of the fading, and lighten the Long night some, so it would be easier to show people the whole story?"

Hmm, tricky, as I simply load the images as-is from the GLR's servers (or mine if you select ‘original’ or ‘difference’). But I might see what I can do – once I have some Time again. (Don't you-know-what...)
And for Whizbang and yappobiscuits, I'll see what I can do, but also not any time soon.

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Poor VoronX ...

BlitzGirl, I'm sorry to read about your troubles... I hope things work out for you. Image

Here's an alternate version of frame 1:
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Epilogue update. If, as always, we name the 5 post-don't-you-dare-mention-that-frame frames as A through E, the oldpix sequence that followed it is now:
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Still in the third 24-oldpix cycle, but I bet that'll be broken soon.

That'll have to do for now. I may or may not have time for some more blitchup later tonix, but tomorrow I almost certainly won't. It doesn't look like I'll ketch up soon. Image
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:50 pm UTC

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For decree: Friendly Beanie-1 Amtoo settles down with Beanette and they make dozens of Beanie Babies.

Dozens of what now?
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Beanies are very adept at sewing children's toys collectors' items:

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For decree: Amtoo grows sick of manufacturing Beanie Babies and consents to being Rosetta's consort. They make several well-coiffed babies. Beanette stands outside the castle walls and hurls Beanie Babies at them with a trebuchet.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:55 pm UTC

Just double-blind posting to say I haven't left! Just been incredibly preoccupied with Outside things lately :( I'll do a full ketchup Blitz when I have time in a couple days! Love y'all, be back soon.
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Ketchup

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:34 pm UTC

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dawnfire wrote:I thought I should try to do some justice to the first time we saw some real dialogue (ignoring the Later-Bye exchange). Hope you like it.
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Very nice, dawnfire! I'm loving all of your colored manips. :D

mikro2nd wrote:Our Way
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And now The End has come
And so we face the final newpix
Others, they'll say it's done
To which I'll say there's still a few trickses

We've lived a Time that passed
While Meg and Cue hiked every which-way
And more, much more than this
I OTTed my way

Mustard, we've seen a few
But then again too few to mention
We did what we had to do
The flames were quenched, avoiding tension

I planned to get more sleep
Each chirpin' frame along the ONG day
And wait, oh we did wait
I OTTed my way

Yes there were filks, I saw them too
When I tried to watch but coma'd through
And through the fade when there was doubt
When Cueball Pfffth'd and spit it out
We shared some cake
We shouted Snake
We OTTed our way

I've ONGed, I've laughed and cried
Obeyed decrees, and I've been ninja'd
The threats of comfy chair
And speak of steaks, badly singéd

To think we did all that
And it's been fun, those ghastly puns
Oh yes, we got some hats
We OTTed our way

For what are OTTers, what have we got
If not the pix, then just the OTT
We'll sing those songs that scarcely rhyme
With Beanish words from out of Time
The pix that glow, the OTTed prose
I OTTed my way

Yes, it was our way
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Re: Our Way

Postby Ximenez » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:39 pm UTC

mikro2nd wrote:I offer a song, along the lines, and to the tune of My Way by Frank Sinatra:

Our Way
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And now The End has come
And so we face the final newpix
Others, they'll say it's done
To which I'll say there's still a few trickses

We've lived a Time that passed
While Meg and Cue hiked every which-way
And more, much more than this
I OTTed my way

Mustard, we've seen a few
But then again too few to mention
We did what we had to do
The flames were quenched, avoiding tension

I planned to get more sleep
Each chirpin' frame along the ONG day
And wait, oh we did wait
I OTTed my way

Yes there were filks, I saw them too
When I tried to watch but coma'd through
And through the fade when there was doubt
When Cueball Pfffth'd and spit it out
We shared some cake
We shouted Snake
We OTTed our way

I've ONGed, I've laughed and cried
Obeyed decrees, and I've been ninja'd
The threats of comfy chair
And speak of steaks, badly singéd

To think we did all that
And it's been fun, those ghastly puns
Oh yes, we got some hats
We OTTed our way

For what are OTTers, what have we got
If not the pix, then just the OTT
We'll sing those songs that scarcely rhyme
With Beanish words from out of Time
The pix that glow, the OTTed prose
I OTTed my way

Yes, it was our way

ETA an ONG:
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7terful! I sang it aloud trying not to choke with laughter!
(Loved the self-deprecating ONG at the end.)

ETA:
Exodies wrote:ETA is a sign of vanity. The Tread records how many edits you did to your post and lots of people worry that we will look at "edited 2 times" and think it was to correct spelling or replace theres with they're and all the other absurd nit picking obsessions which seem to bedevil message systems. ETA - Edit To Add - see? Not to correct, but to add; a nice warm thing; gives a slight flavour of absent minded genius. So when you see it, you can think "self obsessed chirp".

ETA: no, no, no. I just wanted to say that editing your last post is hazardous when you are on a long slow blitz. The danger of spoilers is highly likely. (Also removed an ugly apostrophe.)

Loved it. Maybe because it totally does not apply to me. :wink:

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DrSamCarter wrote:I feel rude for not expressing admiration to specific OTTers for all the OTTIfications and colourings and manips and witty interpretations, but I keep losing track of who did what and the wowterful but overwhelming thing is the astonishing rapidity with which they appear. They are all appreciated.

This, absolutely this. OTTifics and OTCols are the soul of our beloved OTT. I guess I'll have to cope with never being able to applaud each and every one the way their authors deserve.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:57 pm UTC

Finished my blitz of GLR's pastposts! I found one more RELATED quote that I thought I would share, circa 2006H, when the fora were young:

xkcd wrote:*quietly reaches back through space and time and makes a careful twist.*

Now the incorrect spelling was never there.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:58 pm UTC

Woah. Terrifyingly short ketchup.
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I think, between me and my multitude of sisters, we own all of these. Or at least "owned".

ETA: Damn, now I either can't post until I finish what I was working on, or I find something else to celebrate with.
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Re: 1190: "Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:09 pm UTC

P136: It appears that the madness is getting a little much for people :(
mscha wrote:І'm outta here. A few juvenile delinquents have ruined it for the rest of us.


It's interesting -- to me -- that the madness is only visible when quoted or when it appears in the title of each post. It seems that the forum software kept a "clean" copy of the intended post, but only exposed the maddened posts during the madness. This makes reading it a little confusing, because most of the time you have no real idea how confusing it was, and why people are getting annoyed!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:26 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:28 pm UTC

Happy 600, HES! Have some cake:
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smolloy wrote:P136: It appears that the madness is getting a little much for people :(
mscha wrote:І'm outta here. A few juvenile delinquents have ruined it for the rest of us.


It's interesting -- to me -- that the madness is only visible when quoted or when it appears in the title of each post. It seems that the forum software kept a "clean" copy of the intended post, but only exposed the maddened posts during the madness. This makes reading it a little confusing, because most of the time you have no real idea how confusing it was, and why people are getting annoyed!

Image at past-mscha. Actually, at some point, Mod Madness was removed from the OTT in particular (though it still applied to previews and quotes). I'm not precisely sure when that happened, though - this was long before I reached the Now of the needle-pulled thing. Do any Old Ones remember roughly when the OTT was spared?

Edit: Heh, took my own advice and checked the Wiki article: http://xkcd-time.wikia.com/wiki/The_Madness
The filters were applied normally from newpix 192 until newpix 214, then only applied to quotes and previews until the Madness left at newpix 309.
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Re: 1190: "Things that be on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:31 pm UTC

P139: A wonderful example of the full power of the madness, and an explanation for mscha's response to it!
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k.bookbinder wrote:I shall explain: Each frame of Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! be 1 Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! Frame. It be a static moment in Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!. The Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! between two Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! Frames be measured as 1 Newpix (NP). One tin be-did, "I stepped away for 1/2 a NP and suddenly we have a religion?" and mean that they be-did go-done for approximately half the Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! it woll-did take to transition from 1 Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! Frame to a new Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! Frame, which woll-did be 1 NP. However, if the Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! Frame changes, regardless of how much Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! has passed in the Outside world (outside of Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!), then it be still 1NP. There be no exact direct correlation between the passage of Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! (or Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! in Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!) and standard measurements of Things that are on my side for 600, Alex! in the Outside world.


Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlueCrab » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:34 pm UTC

BlueCrab wrote:Blindpost from np 1218:
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foilman wrote:New plan ONG...
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Did anyone else notice that Megan's twin (on the left, next to the yurt) planted a flower? Last frame she was kneeling down:

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I think she's saying bye to their camp :(


*sigh* Yeah, as soon as I began ketchupping today I saw that it had crept past Cuegan (Triffids?! What the?) I guess the Forty just have this thing for playing with semencancercoffeebabies when there's nothing else to do. :lol:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:50 pm UTC

Nothing spectacular in the way of colorizationssee question below, ottifications or OTTcomics. Hopefully those I can start adding to the mix shortly. However, when I did my first 'IDs' of the Beanies (way back on NP1050) and, especially after we met the rest of them, I had planned to do a similar "close-up" approach on the rest. Before I got a "round tuit", we got "..." and then "RUN" and then more "..." and then the words we don't like you say or even think about. I mentioned during the aftermath about my canceled plans and that I wasn't sure if these were still needed, but k.bookbinder suggested I finish the "poroject". So, after that long winded introduction, I present the rest of the Beanie...


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So, there's that.....

pending questions/rantsWhen I try to work with any of the frames in Photoshop Elements 10, all of the brushes and effects (etc.) get rendered in gray-scale. I'm following the "Dummies" book for E-10 and, say, I "select" a red. The "background/foreground" box only shows my selected color as gray. And where I paint only shows gray. I've tried some "effects" (inc. one with diagonal gray and red stripes, that was rendered as alternating shades of gray [please no jokes]). Now when I bring in a .png image like one of my Beanie IDs that I colored in Paint (or bring in a B&W .jpeg image), I get full color controls. (Of course, when I try to do anything with one of my Beanie crops, I get an ICC error no matter what I do. But, I can paint a red or green line on the image.)
I've seen other folks get "WOWTERFUL" multi-color colorizations or add-a-photo manips crediting Photoshop as their platform. What am I doing wrong???? Please, help!!!!
Also, in MS Paint, can I do photo overlay manips, like mscha's NEAT "Frame 1" or something like DrSamCarter's beautiful mountain scene? (Not that I'm going to try to duplicate them or anything. Just might want to do the same concept.)

At any rate*, thanks for any help**.

* two-and-a-half percent....
**HELP!!

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Re: 1190: "Things that are on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:55 pm UTC

142 pages, and over 5000 posts about this comic (at the point I'm racing through in the deep-past), and this guy uses his first (and only) post to ask this:
chaoticlychaotic wrote:Does anybody have an archive of all the images released so far?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:56 pm UTC

pelrigg wrote:pending questions/rantsWhen I try to work with any of the frames in Photoshop Elements 10, all of the brushes and effects (etc.) get rendered in gray-scale. I'm following the "Dummies" book for E-10 and, say, I "select" a red. The "background/foreground" box only shows my selected color as gray. And where I paint only shows gray. I've tried some "effects" (inc. one with diagonal gray and red stripes, that was rendered as alternating shades of gray [please no jokes]). Now when I bring in a .png image like one of my Beanie IDs that I colored in Paint (or bring in a B&W .jpeg image), I get full color controls. (Of course, when I try to do anything with one of my Beanie crops, I get an ICC error no matter what I do. But, I can paint a red or green line on the image.)

Oh, I can help you with this one. I'm using the full version of Photoshop but the issue is the same. All of the newpix of Time are saved as Grayscale images. To add color of any sort to one of the newpix, you first have to change the mode from Grayscale to RGB. On my version of Photoshop, that's under Image > Mode > RGB Color.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:15 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
pelrigg wrote:pending questions/rantsWhen I try to work with any of the frames in Photoshop Elements 10, all of the brushes and effects (etc.) get rendered in gray-scale. I'm following the "Dummies" book for E-10 and, say, I "select" a red. The "background/foreground" box only shows my selected color as gray. And where I paint only shows gray. I've tried some "effects" (inc. one with diagonal gray and red stripes, that was rendered as alternating shades of gray [please no jokes]). Now when I bring in a .png image like one of my Beanie IDs that I colored in Paint (or bring in a B&W .jpeg image), I get full color controls. (Of course, when I try to do anything with one of my Beanie crops, I get an ICC error no matter what I do. But, I can paint a red or green line on the image.)

Oh, I can help you with this one. I'm using the full version of Photoshop but the issue is the same. All of the newpix of Time are saved as Grayscale images. To add color of any sort to one of the newpix, you first have to change the mode from Grayscale to RGB. On my version of Photoshop, that's under Image > Mode > RGB Color.


Thanks, BlitzGirl. I'll give that a try. (I have the full version myself. I paid real $$ for it when I was "rich and famous".)

Now maybe I can join in the fun.
(I had a different photo-editor when I had ME and XP that I could fly on. If I still had that I'd have made more manips by now...)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:19 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
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pelrigg wrote:pending questions/rantsWhen I try to work with any of the frames in Photoshop Elements 10, all of the brushes and effects (etc.) get rendered in gray-scale. I'm following the "Dummies" book for E-10 and, say, I "select" a red. The "background/foreground" box only shows my selected color as gray. And where I paint only shows gray. I've tried some "effects" (inc. one with diagonal gray and red stripes, that was rendered as alternating shades of gray [please no jokes]). Now when I bring in a .png image like one of my Beanie IDs that I colored in Paint (or bring in a B&W .jpeg image), I get full color controls. (Of course, when I try to do anything with one of my Beanie crops, I get an ICC error no matter what I do. But, I can paint a red or green line on the image.)

Oh, I can help you with this one. I'm using the full version of Photoshop but the issue is the same. All of the newpix of Time are saved as Grayscale images. To add color of any sort to one of the newpix, you first have to change the mode from Grayscale to RGB. On my version of Photoshop, that's under Image > Mode > RGB Color.

It is the same in Elements 11, as well: Image > Mode > RGB Color
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:21 pm UTC

mscha wrote:⁷some height map, Kieryn! (But .bmp? Seriously?) Looks pretty similar to this one, but more sciency instead of artsy. Image

Well not intended for artsyness - was more thinking along the lines of for generating 3d models

And yep, I will convert the raw data to png as soon as I get a chance
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Blind-Post NP1197

Postby azule » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:30 pm UTC

chem1190c wrote:I think the whole thing is a diversion.. Hairdo was obviously buying time to launch the Secret Royal Beanish Navy just in time for the flood.

Something like this:
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Woah, nice visualization. Smooth as a snake!

BlitzGirl wrote:In cultures that read left-to-right, there is a tendency to give objects traveling left-to-right across a field of view more positive associations: moving forward, progressing, heading the correct way. Objects moving right-to-left, or against-the-grain, are more apt to be viewed with suspicion or a sense of wrongness.

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I have a sneaking suspicion that GLR knows this theory. I also have a sneaking suspicion that there is a real name for this phenomenon, but I have forgotten it if ever I learned it.


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Re: 1190: "Things that be on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:33 pm UTC

P146: I notice that people still discuss distance in units of metres (HERESY!!). Kinda strange, since I would have guessed that people would have started speculating on the size of the sandcastle by now, but I guess we just assume the height based on a "normal" height of our two heros. I wonder when we'll see distance units changes to cues/Qs/etc?
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Re: 1190: "Things that be on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:40 pm UTC

smolloy wrote: I wonder when we'll see distance units changes to cues/Qs/etc?

It's going to be a while - cues were introduced somewhere between the Time I caught up to the Present and the first usage of "molpy," so, not until the 500s newpages, I would guess.
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Re: 1190: "Things that be on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:59 pm UTC

P151: Found it! The first use of the word "loopist"! People have been discussing the "loop" and "erosion/decay" theories for quite some Time now, but this is the first time that I have seen that word written explicitly. We've only made it to NP223 (Geekwagon), and think of how much of the language of this thread has already been solidified! Very cool!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:01 pm UTC

Blindposting this because ever since the end of the OTC I've never managed to get ketched up again, but I came across this wowterful traffic sign on Flickr which I really wanted to share with you all (I hope this hasn't been done before). A slightly less interesting version can be seen here.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:07 pm UTC

Hmmm.... Getting a little irritated with the posters here in the deep-past. They only post the new newpix every third or fourth time, which makes it difficult to follow them without switching back and forth to Geekwagon. It's a real pity that my Time-machine doesn't allow me to communicate with the locals...
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Re: 1190: "Things that be on my side for 600, Alex!"

Postby smolloy » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:16 pm UTC

154 pages, and now I understand the origin of "needle-pulled-thing". It's part of the Madness! :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:37 pm UTC

smolloy wrote:Hmmm.... Getting a little irritated with the posters here in the deep-past. They only post the new newpix every third or fourth time, which makes it difficult to follow them without switching back and forth to Geekwagon. It's a real pity that my Time-machine doesn't allow me to communicate with the locals...

I know we had trouble with that during the madness, I believe that was why the madness was partially lifted. Should we make an attempt to go edit in the missing newpix? (Being careful never to put one in early, of course.)
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The ID-40 Project

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:34 pm UTC

Pelrigg's Beanie-identifications encouraged me to get the next installment of the ID-40 project up. Previously, I identified the characters in the group of six.
This installment focuses on Cuegan's first scene with the Twenty, spanning from one blackout newpix to another. This scene is notable because it's the one in which LaPetite returns. Image

There are in fact twenty unique characters in the scene, counting Cuegan and LaPetite. One of these characters did not appear in the newpix that I used for group identifications of the Forty - what appears to be a small girl with short black hair, whom I've dubbed Yin-Yang (YY) - she is standing with the kids at the front when the scene begins. It was surprisingly easy to keep track of everyone; here is a gif I created of the characters that includes the name labels (all frame numbers are mscha):

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The only character that really bothers me in this scene is Mini Two-Tone, the small boy with thick black hair. When he stands up in 3030, his hair thins, and doesn't re-thicken until 3034. But it's obviously still the same character - process of elimination leaves no other potential replacements. The character Meg-a-like also looks rather strange when she's standing with the group, partially obscured - her hair seems thinner than it is when she emerges in 3034 to tie up the Raftcastle - but that could be simply because she's facing the other direction.

Here's the detailed identification chart (click for larger image):

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I also altered my original Forty identification to mention Yin-Yang's absence (click for larger image):
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flado » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:37 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:52 pm UTC

A memory lane ONG:
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I took my own advise (like BlitzGirl did about The Madness) and took it upon myself to e-mail Phil Plait (The Bad Astronomer) about his (The BA's) involvement with Time:

pelrigg wrote:Dear Phil Plait;

First, long time reader, first time writing you, standard verbiage. I started with you on the old web site (too bad you don't update it any more. Maybe once a year, or so?) Then moved over to the Discovery blog and now here on Slate. (I don't read the comments here on Slate that often. Flames jump out of it too quickly. A couple of thousand posts on "hot-button" issues? It's nice to see the greater exposure for your stuff, but I don't have the patience for all of that.)

To the main subject. I know you've mentioned xkcd in your blog before (Discovery era) and was kind of surprised when you didn't mention Time(comic 1190)[http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/time.png] especially during what was referred to on the Time Thread [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043] as the "Long Night" during which Mr. Munroe rendered a realistic "moving star field" night scene. Realistic enough for members of the Thread [Starting at viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043&start=37840] to identify the year the story was set in (circa 11,000 years from now). However when Time reached it's end, Mr. Munroe did something rare for himself, he commented on one of his creations [http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/07/29/1190-time/] and in it (and in an interview with "Wired.com") he mentioned your help with the astronomy.

Dear sir, come clean. Please, please, please, do a post about your involvement with one of Mr. Munroe greatest achievements.

Thank you;
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I'm not exactly sure why not all of the http addresses didn't come through as links. But at least the addresses are there. I encourage any one else who follows Bad Astronomy to drop a line. (mail: thebadastronomer@gmail.com)

@ BlitzGirl (again): Good work on your identifying The Forty. (Hmmm.... Looks like there were exactly forty of them....)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:05 pm UTC

@svenman: Those are awesomeful signs! Image

pelrigg wrote:@ BlitzGirl (again): Good work on your identifying The Forty. (Hmmm.... Looks like there were exactly forty of them....)

Thanks! And yeah, right now the numbers are finally up to a true forty, though I have some concerns about the characters Loopsy/Pony/Pulled-back when we get back to the large group scenes. It's possible these aren't actually three separate characters. I'm waiting to reserve judgement until I actually get back to that scene, however. So yes, the Forty are Forty for now! :D

Oh, and good idea to email Phil Plait; it will be interesting to see if he will have a reply.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:06 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Latent22 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:28 pm UTC

Great work with the IDing BlitzGirl!

So now we have the mystery of did they leave behind YY.

still looking forward to finding out who spoke all the dialog in the zoomed out coming together frames.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:29 pm UTC

I just added my recent OTTifications (assuming I remembered them all) to the wiki, and also added So Long and Thanks for all the Newpix, just because I found it while looking to see which ones mine were between. I hope I didn't mess anything up. I notice that the numbers increment automatically if you just put links without numbers (I guess this is just the usual unnamed-external-link numbering, but it works well as table numbering, just as long as nobody puts an unnamed link in the introductory paragraph), but I don't know how to do that from the graphical editor (is there a way to do it? I've just been inserting mine using the code editor because I didn't want to have to renumber everything manually, but I don't want to accidentally make it incompatible with the other editor), so some people had put in their own numbers, which messed up the count. So I removed those numbers, and now the count is at 202. I am sure there are some that haven't been added to the wiki yet. I liked it better when there were wiki fairies to mysteriously add these things. :D In fact, all the wiki editors deserve cake. Here you go:

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