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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:08 pm UTC
by airdrik
Exodies wrote:
mscha wrote:Sea level rise, and castle crumbling, since just after the sea wall collapsed, some 16newpix ago.
Time_sea_level_rise_20130417_1100.png

(As always, red removed, green added.)

Why is the castle being under cut by the under current when Megan's Nub wasn't?

Difference in construction. The sandcastle was built to have a nice appearance and was not created to withstand the coming of the tide. The nub/dyke/whatever was built to hold back the tide (for a period of Time).

Or in other words, because Lord Randall dictated it to work that way.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:08 pm UTC
by histrion
It looks like C's giving the sandpile a backrub. And M doesn't look pleased about it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:09 pm UTC
by KarMann
Asthanius wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
Asthanius wrote:But think about it. Megan admitted that she doesn't know how the sea works. If she doesn't know how it works but continues to build, she must know something about the sea, possibly how high it can rise.

Because nobody ever builds sandcastles unless they're sure they will survive the tide? Even if the seamen keeps rising at the current rate, that part of the castle will last quite a while yet, so why not rebuild? All it shows is that Megan has no reason to expect an imminent tsunami.

Can we expect a tsunami? That'd be kind of awesome.

Well, BlitzGirl is experiencing a bit of a title wave.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:10 pm UTC
by Roia
KarMann wrote:
Asthanius wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
Asthanius wrote:But think about it. Megan admitted that she doesn't know how the sea works. If she doesn't know how it works but continues to build, she must know something about the sea, possibly how high it can rise.

Because nobody ever builds sandcastles unless they're sure they will survive the tide? Even if the seamen keeps rising at the current rate, that part of the castle will last quite a while yet, so why not rebuild? All it shows is that Megan has no reason to expect an imminent tsunami.

Can we expect a tsunami? That'd be kind of awesome.

Well, BlitzGirl is experiencing a bit of a title wave.


A joke that bad shouldn't make me laugh... But it did!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 pm UTC
by htom
Skipping the quotes because I don't want to create a potential race condition in the totals ...

The first (or appears as the first) frame. No past, all future. Wait for it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:18 pm UTC
by Eliram
histrion wrote:
Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1


I could have sworn someone seconded my vote for 78.

ETA: Never mind.

I vote for frame 167. The two castles are there, in their familiar form. C&M are both in the frame. There's building action (C), there's waiting action (M), everything we learned to love and expect in the one true comic.
167th

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:26 pm UTC
by Mycroft_147
Jafloi wrote:
Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1

I cast my vote for...

...wait for It...
*drumroll*


The very last newpix!
The end of Time!
The final frame to come gifted to us by the Almighty Randall!

*tssss*


Edit: Damn my XKOCD.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:26 pm UTC
by Angelastic
What's all this about not having the first frame? I thought we had the first frame, but just didn't know the hash of it.

61 has been my favourite for a while, though there are probably more recent ones I'd like better if I took the trouble to think about them all.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:28 pm UTC
by vvn
Exodies wrote:Why is the castle being under cut by the under current when Megan's Nub wasn't?

And, why didn't Megan just add a bit to the nub to keep it from happening?

I thought I remembered that some bonding agents were allowed in sand sculpture competitions. But, I could not find a reference to that on the web. I did find some cool sandcastles that don't exist anywhere in the Universe... http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... zo/4279810

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:28 pm UTC
by Caswallon
Spoiler:
Eliram wrote:
histrion wrote:
Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1


I could have sworn someone seconded my vote for 78.

ETA: Never mind.
I vote for frame 167. The two castles are there, in their familiar form. C&M are both in the frame. There's building action (C), there's waiting action (M), everything we learned to love and expect in the one true comic.
167th

I vote for frames 403& 404!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:35 pm UTC
by Flado
Yay! Caught up again!
Also: Frame one. It's the only one that makes sense for a connoisseur. So far, at least.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:41 pm UTC
by Jafloi
Update:***
First frame*: 6
25th: 1
52th: 1
61th: 1
78th:: 2
107th: 1
167th: 1
385th: 1*****
403th: 1
404th: 3******,*******
Last**: 2

*Because I am not Lord Randall the Almighty, the "first" frame referred to is the first at http://xkcd.aubronwood.com/time[/quote]
**Can someone provide me a link?
***One nanopix till the decision is made, but please continue to vote, could be fun seeing what turns out to be the most popular timeframe.****
[Edit:]****Done, landed on "First" frame
[Edit2:]*****Added vote!
[Edit3:]******Added one more vote!
[Edit4:] Adding an important thought:
Purplepants77 wrote:In light of all this critiquing of which Frame is most representative of the OTC, I would just like to reiterate my only previous post: This needle-pulled-thingy is becoming increasingly similar to the dialogue in Other Comic #915.

On a related note:

Flado wrote:Yay! Caught up again!
Also: Frame one. It's the only one that makes sense for a connoisseur. So far, at least.


And personally, I would like remain among those of the opinion that no individual Frame can come close to capturing the essence of the OTC.
but if I had to pick, I'd say the first* one

*Because I am not Lord Randall the Almighty... (and so on)

[Edit5:] *******Adding vote from edo

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:45 pm UTC
by lmjb1964
airdrik wrote:
Exodies wrote:
mscha wrote:Sea level rise, and castle crumbling, since just after the sea wall collapsed, some 16newpix ago.
Time_sea_level_rise_20130417_1100.png

(As always, red removed, green added.)

Why is the castle being under cut by the under current when Megan's Nub wasn't?

Difference in construction. The sandcastle was built to have a nice appearance and was not created to withstand the coming of the tide. The nub/dyke/whatever was built to hold back the tide (for a period of Time).

Or in other words, because Lord Randall dictated it to work that way.


Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:52 pm UTC
by Montov
Best frame? #385:
http://xkcd-time.wikia.com/wiki/XKCD_Ti ... ime385.png

Cueball just finished his amazing recursive castle in the middle, and he is proudly showing it to Megan with his arms wide open. I love the recusrive castle, I love frames where both Megan and Cueball are visible, I love silent interactions between them, and I love how we can deduce entire emotions just by a variation of the position of the stick figures.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:56 pm UTC
by treadman
lmjb1964 wrote:
airdrik wrote:
Exodies wrote:
mscha wrote:Sea level rise, and castle crumbling, since just after the sea wall collapsed, some 16newpix ago.
Time_sea_level_rise_20130417_1100.png

(As always, red removed, green added.)

Why is the castle being under cut by the under current when Megan's Nub wasn't?

Difference in construction. The sandcastle was built to have a nice appearance and was not created to withstand the coming of the tide. The nub/dyke/whatever was built to hold back the tide (for a period of Time).

Or in other words, because Lord Randall dictated it to work that way.


Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.


Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:00 pm UTC
by vvn
[quote="Sciscitor"]Just an attempt to resolve the dimensionality puzzle.
-snip-[/quote}

Some thoughts on the universe choices
2D
Wouldn't gravity fall off by distance rather than distance squared?
The area near the fluid and dike looked 2d.

Unrelated to dimensionality: The zoom into the trebuchet shows that the pixel is not the elementary particle in the universe. (Or, the zoom in would be pixelated.)

3D
There was much discussion about the dike holding back the water, and it's need to be very long. But, when I have built such things to save my own constructions I have built them around the castle. This circular wall would be best drawn the way it was in the OTC.


2.5D (Antfarm-Universe)
Amusing physics choice, (And my understanding is that 17 or so of the dimensions required for string theory are like this.) But, not gratifying to me.
Also, how could we see the image, the light couldn't get to where we are standing. (Or, they have a universe where entropy is an even bigger bitch than we expect.)

Crossection of a 3D world
This is mostly the one I like. But not in the sense of cutting through the world with a plane, and only seeing what is in that plane.
The world is clearly 3d. Many arguments have been made for this, and I agree with them.
We are clearly not seeing the entirety of the world. The shoreline can't simply be infinitely long and straight and perfectly lined up behind what we see. etc.
Perhaps the universe is 2d at the right, turning 3d left of the dike. (That's why megan didn't just make the dike bigger, she ran out of 2d building material.)
I think the universe is 3d, but some things are hidden in ways we do not yet comprehend.

Hermeneutic explanation
I agree, what fun is this. I like to think Randall would have rules. Even if he would not share with us.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:00 pm UTC
by spamjam
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:11 pm UTC
by Whizbang
Jafloi wrote:Update:***
First frame*: 5
25th: 1
52th: 1
61th: 1
78th:: 2
107th: 1
167th: 1
385th: 1
403th: 1
404th: 1
Last**: 2

*Because I am not Lord Randall the Almighty, the "first" frame referred to is the first at http://xkcd.aubronwood.com/time
**Can someone provide me a link?
***One nanopix till the decision is made, but please continue to vote, could be fun seeing what turns out to be the most popular timeframe.****
[Edit:]****Done, landed on "First" frame
[Edit2:]Added vote!


I vote 404. It has the most emotion of them all.

I would have voted for it earlier, but the preference was made for something in the first 167 or so.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:16 pm UTC
by ChronosDragon
Exodies wrote:
mscha wrote:Sea level rise, and castle crumbling, since just after the sea wall collapsed, some 16newpix ago.
Time_sea_level_rise_20130417_1100.png

(As always, red removed, green added.)

Why is the castle being under cut by the under current when Megan's Nub wasn't?


Have you ever made a sandcastle near the water? Loosely mounded sand tends to remain a loose mound, while carefully packed and vertically-oriented sand is quick to crumble, especially when dry.

The way Megan and Cueball (mostly Megan, as of late) are horsing* around tends to reinforce the idea that they're young, maybe kids. Megan's idea to haul herself up on the bucket when there's a ladder literally right in front of her is a bit whimsical, anyway.

*Better hope Uncle Jack's not around

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:23 pm UTC
by mscha
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:28 pm UTC
by Caswallon
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.

Ah, the internet. Proving wild accusations and assumptions both wrong and right for 33 years.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:30 pm UTC
by histrion
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.


Welcome to another exciting* episode of US-UK-Okay!, where we explore all the little differences that make our neighbors across the pond seem so strange - no matter which side of the pond you're on.

(In the US, "dike" is the preferred spelling for a levee or ditch, "dyke" for a lesbian - at least if m-w.com is any indication.)

*Several electrons jumped orbits. The stage manager is chewing a Wint-O-Green Life Saver.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:31 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.


Spoiler:
"Phrases

put one's finger in the dyke
attempt to stem the advance of something undesirable.
[from a story of a small Dutch boy who saved his community from flooding, by placing his finger in a hole in a dyke]"


:lol: I can't stop giggling! Seriously, tears. It's been going on for quite a few minutes now.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:36 pm UTC
by manvandmaan
Montov wrote:Is that a minaret? Do we need to elect an Ayatollah now?

I always felt like one of the Time-religions needed a mufti.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:44 pm UTC
by lmjb1964
Shepherdess wrote:
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.


Spoiler:
"Phrases

put one's finger in the dyke
attempt to stem the advance of something undesirable.
[from a story of a small Dutch boy who saved his community from flooding, by placing his finger in a hole in a dyke]"


:lol: I can't stop giggling! Seriously, tears. It's been going on for quite a few minutes now.


Maybe we should call it a damn! I mean dam! Damn.

How about seawall?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:48 pm UTC
by histrion
manvandmaan wrote:
Montov wrote:Is that a minaret? Do we need to elect an Ayatollah now?

I always felt like one of the Time-religions needed a mufti.


Here in the Abbey the walls are very drafty. Anything you can lend me to keep my hands warm would be highly appreciated, no matter what cutesy name you want to call it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:49 pm UTC
by _it_
Okay, I'm here. What did I miss?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
by Purplepants77
In light of all this critiquing of which Frame is most representative of the OTC, I would just like to reiterate my only previous post: This needle-pulled-thingy is becoming increasingly similar to the dialogue in Other Comic #915.

On a related note:

Flado wrote:Yay! Caught up again!
Also: Frame one. It's the only one that makes sense for a connoisseur. So far, at least.


And personally, I would like remain among those of the opinion that no individual Frame can come close to capturing the essence of the OTC.
but if I had to pick, I'd say the first* one

*Because I am not Lord Randall the Almighty... (and so on)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:52 pm UTC
by spamjam
Just remember, kids, The Journey Is The Prize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxpcZrQQM-4

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:00 pm UTC
by spamjam
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:01 pm UTC
by pitareio
I'm really surprised the rightmost tower hasn't collapsed yet. How long will it stand?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:05 pm UTC
by histrion
pitareio wrote:I'm really surprised the rightmost tower hasn't collapsed yet. How long will it stand?


It's waiting for it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:10 pm UTC
by treadman
lmjb1964 wrote:
Shepherdess wrote:
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.


Spoiler:
"Phrases

put one's finger in the dyke
attempt to stem the advance of something undesirable.
[from a story of a small Dutch boy who saved his community from flooding, by placing his finger in a hole in a dyke]"


:lol: I can't stop giggling! Seriously, tears. It's been going on for quite a few minutes now.


Maybe we should call it a damn! I mean dam! Damn.

How about seawall?


Ok. I apologize. Dyke is acceptable British English for an embankment to hold back water.

This is from the British Oxford dictionary: Wrong.

This is from the American Oxford dictionary: Also Wrong?

EDIT: After all this I need to go outside for a fag!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:10 pm UTC
by HAL9000
Is it me, or is the gap between the central sandpile on the platform and the tower on the right of the platform crenelated?
Specifically, the smaller platform atop the larger one.
EDIT: 14000th post!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:15 pm UTC
by macraw83
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:
Shepherdess wrote:
mscha wrote:
treadman wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Also, the castle was built by Cueball, and the dike (NOT dyke! Different thing entirely!) by Megan. Just sayin'.

Yes, please. If you're trying to be funny, than fine. Crude humor, but fine. If you don't know how to spell dike, then this lesson might save you some embarrassment in some future time.

Wrong.


Spoiler:
"Phrases

put one's finger in the dyke
attempt to stem the advance of something undesirable.
[from a story of a small Dutch boy who saved his community from flooding, by placing his finger in a hole in a dyke]"


:lol: I can't stop giggling! Seriously, tears. It's been going on for quite a few minutes now.


Maybe we should call it a damn! I mean dam! Damn.

How about seawall?


Ok. I apologize. Dyke is acceptable British English for an embankment to hold back water.

This is from the British Oxford dictionary: Wrong.

This from the American Oxford dictionary: Also Wrong?

EDIT: After all this I need to go outside for a fag!

This is also in the American dictionary: "dyke 2"

EDIT: Oh no, I'm the Pope this page...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:16 pm UTC
by airdrik
HAL9000 wrote:Is it me, or is the gap between the central sandpile on the platform and the tower on the right of the platform crenelated?
Specifically, the smaller platform atop the larger one.
EDIT: 14000th post!

Looks crenelated to me, Cueball did that in 683-684

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:16 pm UTC
by edo
I caught up? and only 9UTC?

I vote for d886b2211e9f32b58f43c887959db0158e1d4652877ae2d062c71840c8cc131d.png, "The Ecstasy of Cueball"

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:22 pm UTC
by Latent22
HAL9000 wrote:
Latent22 wrote:Ok everyone there is a cool new feature in The Book of Time. Go to any page (except the last few as I haven't updated them yet) and there is a link at the bottom that takes you to that newpix's point in the Forum thread. So if you know the newpix number you want to investigate you can go to that page in the book of time and then use the link to get there quickly without having to search through the forum. Also this is useful if you want to edit a Book of Time page and want to see what was talked about at that Time to know what to add.

OH MY GOD YOU ARE THE BEST
Edit: the link to page one of the forum (from the book of time) is not there, instead, I see a wall of 'expression error: unexpected = operator.' The others all seem to work.


Yeah I had to Coma after I made that change and realized too late that I had made a mistake effecting some of the first pages entered. I've now fixed up those bad pages but there are a few more I have to check. And have to fix the bug in my wiki template code. Its currently 75kB of code that I need to optimize because wikia does not like big scripts like that.

Edit: 100th post!
Edit2: script bug fixed now

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:28 pm UTC
by iisjreg
This is what the semencaffeinatedcancerbabies are thinking:

Spoiler:
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:31 pm UTC
by Latent22
mscha wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
SPACKlick wrote:Could anyone gen together something so that you could time the frame number or time&date of two frames and automatically produce these red green images? I'm not computer savvy so no idea if it would work.

mscha has been making a lot of the comparison images, they may be able to help you.

FWIW, here's the Perl script I'm using. You'll need to install some non-standard Perl modules from CPAN, and have the images in the current directory, preferably with increasing file names (I use xkcd_time_20130417_1500.png for the latest image, from 15:00 UTC today).
Usage is then:
xkcd_comp first.png second.png
or just:
xkcd_comp image.png
if you want to compare an image with its predecessor.


You can use the site http://geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190 to do this for two adjacent frames already. Just tick the box below the frame. You then need to go back frames for it to work and it is a bit strange at times but it does let you see changes between frames easily.