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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:48 pm UTC
Valarya wrote:
Jonas79 wrote:

Guys. How can none of you notice that this frame is lighter <gray-scale> than any of the 894 that came before it?! Does that mean it's going to fade away? PANIC!! PANIC!

The lightening was the first thing I noticed. Is it something with how aubronwood is rendering this frame?

EDIT: The black changed from 000000 to 151515.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:51 pm UTC
the loopists can't be right, if there's a loop, there's no "waiting for it".
This is probably a time transition, after this it'll fade right back into 2 weeks/months/years from now, showing the result of their journey

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:51 pm UTC
JCPenney wrote:Suppose we zoom out yet again, and instead of seeing the river and whatever else is Beyond, the entire frame is inside a dream bubble hovering above Cueball and Megan, who have been napping on a beach. As the dream fades, Cueball gets up to stretch his legs and dips his foot in the water, returns to Megan, she begins to build a sandcastle like she did in the dream, Cueball helps her, and so on...

Suppose it will all slowly crumble down, get washed over by the sea1 and after a while Cueball and Megan come back and have a nice day at the beach, building sandcastles and having cryptic dialogues...

Also: The upper reinforced part of the structure looks like the outline of a hat.

1 Which is big and could of course do that, for it can do whatever it wants for it is the sea, which is big...

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:57 pm UTC
Split-image showing how I'm seeing the difference between 894 and 895.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm UTC
higgs-boson wrote:
Valarya wrote:Guys. How can none of you notice that this frame is lighter <gray-scale> than any of the 894 that came before it?! Does that mean it's going to fade away? PANIC!! PANIC!

For me, this "black" is still #000000, "white" still #ffffff. Check your monitor?

Screen burn from looking at it too long?

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm UTC
Valarya wrote:
Jonas79 wrote:
Spoiler:

Guys. How can none of you notice that this frame is lighter <gray-scale> than any of the 894 that came before it?! Does that mean it's going to fade away? PANIC!! PANIC!

Yikes, you're right! Well, almost, it was the second-last newpix that was suddenly brighter.
The black pixels used to be [0, 0, 0], in the last two frames it's been [0.00392156862745098, 0.00392156862745098, 0.00392156862745098].
Not a lot of change, in fact, my Firefox shows both as #000000.

Edit: it shouldn't, though: 0.00392156862745098 == 1/255, so it should translate to #010101.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:00 pm UTC
To me it looks as noticeable as the split image shown a few posts above. When I flip back and forth on the Book of Aubron it's very different. Try it in Chrome instead of Firefox?

Either way, more people than just me can notice the change. So what do you think it means?

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:04 pm UTC
Corrado wrote:EDIT: The black changed from 000000 to 151515.

That's a bit much... According to the pixel values inside the PNG, it should be #010101, and I'm seeing #000000 (Firefox, WIndows).

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:04 pm UTC
Valarya wrote:To me it looks as noticeable as the split image shown a few posts above. When I flip back and forth on the Book of Aubron it's very different. Try it in Chrome instead of Firefox?

Either way, more people than just me can notice the change. So what do you think it means?

In FF it is always the same shade of black, but in IE, 895 is indeed noticeably lighter! :o
A fade out should not be the end, that would not be cool!

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:07 pm UTC
The hash is changing.
Why can't I see it lightning?
Can anyone help?

Edit to add this,
the image is brighter now,
getting PNG.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:08 pm UTC
Kieryn wrote:Ok, I don't know why I did this... I guess I kind of got obsessed with the idea the sandcastle building and maybe the whole comic was scripted back in the 1st NP century and so I had this old experiment lying around and... well... um...

Prediction for the next 900 newpix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOWQYx7MYU

That is fantastic! Aside from the fact that I have always loved the Lemmings games, and sincerely hope that one day there will be a licensed version of the original games on an iDevice.

Jafloi wrote:
The t-shirt of some teacher I once had wrote:Haikus are simple
but sometimes they don't make sense
refrigerator

I have a whiteboard in my office just for random quotes from the internet, That is now on it

Neil_Boekend wrote:Now here's a big spoiler for ya:
Spoiler:

And this one is even bigger:
Spoiler:

I would rank those as less spoilers than Towel Racks, and quite deserving of a ricecop.com ticket (Stickers make me faster, right??)

Edited to add a prediction:
I think that the possible lightening of the pixels may be indicative that the sun is just starting to go down, (more a contrast change than a absolute colour change). I think that the sky will begin to darken as well, and after 15-20 Newpix the scene will be a uniform dull grey. Then, from out of nowhere, LaPetite will return with various floodlights and continue building/saving the castle and the flags from the rising sea (which is Big). Or, in the cover of darkness, the Raptors will frolic in the sand leaving nothing but ominous footprints.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 pm UTC
mscha wrote:
Corrado wrote:EDIT: The black changed from 000000 to 151515.

That's a bit much... According to the pixel values inside the PNG, it should be #010101, and I'm seeing #000000 (Firefox, WIndows).

Yep, you're right, my bad. 5 demerits for using screen-cap vs. actual image. Grabbed the image source and spot-checked in Photoshop and confirmed the 010101.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:09 pm UTC
Jonas79 wrote:The hash is changing.
Why can't I see it lightning?
Can anyone help?

Have you tried looking at the comic in a different browser? And flipping between the most recent frames on the Book of Aubron?

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:10 pm UTC
I stand corrected.
Did some manual color-picking on 437ef9223e24b6e021b7c7179157176ff719c81497d8c58c2efd40503b867f28.png.

#010101

wow.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:12 pm UTC
I ran a little script to check the color of the pixel 5 from the left and bottom of each newpix:
Spoiler:
xkcd_time_20130325_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0430.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0530.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0630.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130405_2000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2200.png: #ffffff <= that's the microtrebuchet zoom
xkcd_time_20130405_2300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130406_0000.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130426_0000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0200.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0700.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0800.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0900.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1100.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1200.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1300.png: #010101

(All the snipped ones are #000000.)

So, not a lot of change (yet), although what you see apparently depends on browser / OS / whatever.
It would indeed be a lame ending if the picture just fades out. But unless it speeds up, that might take quite a while.

Edit: note that this is on my local collection, downloaded as they appear. Randall could be retroactively change the older newpix and I'd never know.

Edit2:
Drakeesh wrote:Edited to add a prediction:
I think that the possible lightening of the pixels may be indicative that the sun is just starting to go down, (more a contrast change than a absolute colour change). I think that the sky will begin to darken as well, and after 15-20 Newpix the scene will be a uniform dull grey. Then, from out of nowhere, LaPetite will return with various floodlights and continue building/saving the castle and the flags from the rising sea (which is Big). Or, in the cover of darkness, the Raptors will frolic in the sand leaving nothing but ominous footprints.

Good point, also need to check the color of the sky.
Added that to my little checking script. So far, always #ffffff.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:23 pm UTC
mscha wrote:I ran a little script to check the color of the pixel 5 from the left and bottom of each newpix:
Spoiler:
xkcd_time_20130325_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0430.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0530.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0630.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130405_2000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2200.png: #ffffff <= that's the microtrebuchet zoom
xkcd_time_20130405_2300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130406_0000.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130426_0000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0200.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0700.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0800.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0900.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1100.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1200.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1300.png: #010101

(All the snipped ones are #000000.)

So, not a lot of change (yet), although what you see apparently depends on browser / OS / whatever.
It would indeed be a lame ending if the picture just fades out. But unless it speeds up, that might take quite a while.

Edit: note that this is on my local collection, downloaded as they appear. Randall could be retroactively change the older newpix and I'd never know.

Can' see the change in Firefox at all but analyzing the pngs it seems to be uniform, all black pixels becoming 010101 pixels (rather than some proportion or whatever.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:24 pm UTC
SPACKlick wrote:
mscha wrote:I ran a little script to check the color of the pixel 5 from the left and bottom of each newpix:
Spoiler:
xkcd_time_20130325_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0430.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0530.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130325_0630.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130405_2000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130405_2200.png: #ffffff <= that's the microtrebuchet zoom
xkcd_time_20130405_2300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130406_0000.png: #000000
(snip)
xkcd_time_20130426_0000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0100.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0200.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0300.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0400.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0500.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0600.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0700.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0800.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_0900.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1000.png: #000000
xkcd_time_20130426_1100.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1200.png: #010101
xkcd_time_20130426_1300.png: #010101

(All the snipped ones are #000000.)

So, not a lot of change (yet), although what you see apparently depends on browser / OS / whatever.
It would indeed be a lame ending if the picture just fades out. But unless it speeds up, that might take quite a while.

Edit: note that this is on my local collection, downloaded as they appear. Randall could be retroactively change the older newpix and I'd never know.

Can' see the change in Firefox at all but analyzing the pngs it seems to be uniform, all black pixels becoming 010101 pixels (rather than some proportion or whatever.

This was what I was doing wrong as well, using Firefox. When downloading png's, I can see the color change as well.

Edit: Is the sea still rising?

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:28 pm UTC
So was all this a dream???

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:28 pm UTC
Jonas79 wrote:Edit: Is the sea still rising?

Yes, slightly with every newpic.
I posted a diff 2 newpix ago, there hasn't been enough change since to post a new one.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:31 pm UTC
mscha wrote:
Jonas79 wrote:Edit: Is the sea still rising?

Yes, slightly with every newpic.
I posted a diff 2 newpix ago, there hasn't been enough change since to post a new one.

OK, thanks. Just wanted to know if there was any change at all with the latest newpix since it seems the pixels didn't get brighter this time, still at #010101.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:34 pm UTC
Jonas79 wrote:Edit: Is the sea1 still rising?

1 which is big

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:35 pm UTC
Checked the color and yes it is confirmed. The black is now #151515. White stays at #ffffff

This is because the difference between #000000 and #010101 is not enough for the human eye to detect -- 24 bit colors give over 16 million possible colors. Estimates for the number a human can distinguish range from 100 thousand to 10 million but that includes all colors out side of the range of colors a monitor can put out. Within a monitor's color range, we can probably only distinguish 100,000 or so.

Now, I haven't done a water level update in a while, but going forward this change will mess up my algorithm, because it adds up color values and averages to figure out the approximate height. Now I will have to take the overall lighting into account if I'm to do that again.

And back to topic, yes this is a VERY interesting development. Here are my best guesses:

* Transition to night lighting (a la Drakeesh's idea)
* Lighting from some event, an explosion, maybe a lightning strike, maybe it will start raining?
* Fade to white, then fade in to new location

My favorite is the 3rd one at this point. I would love to see what C/M are up to...

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:36 pm UTC
XonqNopp wrote:
Jonas79 wrote:Edit: Is the sea1 still rising?

1 which is big

And the river2

2 is small.

Edit:
Also wanted to note that timestamps (both external and internal) haven't changed, recently. All images from the last days, including the ones with the fading, are from 22 April (for what that's worth). So, it looks like this is a deliberate change, not a side effect from re-rendering the scene.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:50 pm UTC
Kieryn wrote:Checked the color and yes it is confirmed. The black is now #151515. White stays at #ffffff
#010101 or #151515? I'd have said "#010101", but I don't trust my own skills, anymore.
Kieryn wrote:This is because the difference between #000000 and #010101 is not enough for the human eye to detect -- 24 bit colors give over 16 million possible colors.
Actually, we are in greyscale business right now, which currently leaves us 256 different shades of grey (don't you dare to pun). Which is not really much, every photographer who has had an expensive monochrome epoch would agree. Well. Maybe. At least, I believe they would.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:57 pm UTC
Do not fade away,
Oh you great One True Comic,
I miss you always,

I will always wait,
Until the end of Time, which,
Might not be too long.

Curiousity,
Will my writing in haiku,
Mean I get a hat?

I hope this is so,
Forever I have waited,
For such an honour.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:58 pm UTC
The sand dries up, ergo gets lighter. I don't understand what the sea is doing, though.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:59 pm UTC
XonqNopp wrote:
Jonas79 wrote:Edit: Is the sea1 still rising?

1 which is big2

2 And can do whatever it wants

Flado wrote:The sand dries up, ergo gets lighter. I don't understand what the sea is doing, though.

See above footnote.

Edit: Fixed spelling

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:04 pm UTC
I don't have a good *ONG, so I'll let someone else do the honours, but the newpix is again #010101 / #ffffff, so no change. We now have four pix with these values.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:05 pm UTC
No ONGs? I don't trust my eyes enough either. Oh well, hooray for newpixbot

ETA: ninja'd, sort of.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:10 pm UTC
BOGONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:18 pm UTC
Kieryn wrote:... Here are my best guesses:
* Transition to night lighting (a la Drakeesh's idea)
* Lighting from some event, an explosion, maybe a lightning strike, maybe it will start raining?
* Fade to white, then fade in to new location

Given that the new shade though brighter has been constant for 4 timeframes, it pretty much eliminates all 3 of these possibilities. I'm confused.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:20 pm UTC
Flado wrote:The sand dries up, ergo gets lighter. I don't understand what the sea is doing, though.

The sea is being big.
That's a full Time job

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:21 pm UTC
When Megan put the last flag onto the Tower and whispered 'bye' I was actually a bit sad.
Been some hours since they are gone.

at the Moment I'm waiting for the little Girl from pic 798,799,800 and 801 to return.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:22 pm UTC
No further fading in the last ...ONG. Still 010101it seems.

edit: How do you keep track of time - newpix number that is?

PS. La Petite! Come back!

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:26 pm UTC
buffygirl wrote:
Kieryn wrote:Ok, I don't know why I did this...
Spoiler:
I guess I kind of got obsessed with the idea the sandcastle building and maybe the whole comic was scripted back in the 1st NP century and so I had this old experiment lying around and... well... um...

Prediction for the next 900 newpix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOWQYx7MYU

O M G, what planet are you from, and will you marry me? shit, I'm already married.

Sentiment appreciated nonetheless. I'm already married, too.
And, actually, I'm not sure what planet.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:33 pm UTC
What-if the "sand" in the center castle was actually pure cesium?

That's my thought of the day, and I'm sticking to it. Thank you.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:35 pm UTC
thirds wrote:What-if the "sand" in the center castle was actually pure cesium?
That's my thought of the day, and I'm sticking to it. Thank you.

Hmm. I'm sure I could do a simulation of that tonight and we could find out...

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:43 pm UTC
Kieryn wrote:I'm confused.

Me too... Although, he might be using a deeper color range and it's actually getting brighter following a sine curve, so it accelerates after a while. It would be very interesting if it changed to #020202 soon.

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:44 pm UTC
Swein wrote:No further fading in the last ...ONG. Still 010101it seems.

edit: How do you keep track of time - newpix number that is?

PS. La Petite! Come back!

From The Book of Aubron. It displays the number in the top left corner. (But adds an extra copy of the latest before it returns to 1.)

### Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:51 pm UTC
Also, what does it mean to send a private message to BlitzGirl?