1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

HAL9000 wrote:I guess we're back to seeing them from behind. But will our viewpoint resume its previous distance, or remain closer to them?

We'll have to wait and see. The camera hasn't moved yet, the landscape is identical to the previous frames. Next one is probably the one where we see movement, and then we'll know whether we follow them on the side or from behind, and what the zoom will be.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

mscha wrote:
Latent22 wrote:Hey guys I have a question for you. What would you call a unit of time equal to 24 newpix? This would be half an outside day for the first 240 newpix and then one outside day after that?

Ikositesseranewpix icositetranewpix?

Edit: that was modern Greek, found classical Greek prefixes here.

interesting idea bit hard to say or remember though... was looking for something a bit simpler to understand. The problem is that just calling it something simple like days is too heretical. Would be nice to be able to measure the OTT in these new icositetranewpix units so that the title of each wiki page could be "OTT icositetranewpix 4" or something similar.

descor wrote:A xivnewpix? Or a xivnp?

These are shorter The problem is this is also something that will cause much confusion and is not simple to say as it has to be pronounced "X I V newpix" which is not ideal.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

cari.j.elliot wrote: At least when I left, the footnotes were becoming a thing.
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We found no evidence for it in out data.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

An old song (24 Outside days, 578 Newpix!) updated. I was going to just post several new verses, but then I realized I was nearly doubling the length of the song and changing the verse order besides, so I thought I might as well drag the whole thing forward. Spoilered for the sake of skimmers and scrollers.

Old Time Religion
(With thanks to Eoink and KarMann who originally inspired me to this, and to BlitzGirl11 and all the others who've inspired me to continue it.)
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Gimme that old Time religion,
Gimme that old Time religion,
Gimme that old Time religion,
It's good enough for me!

Th'One True Comic, we adore it,
Ev'ry Timeframe brings us more Writ,
As we rally to: "Wait for it."--
--That's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Be it Timeframe, Long-, or Newpix,
We will wait our chance to view Pix
Built from grains of ancient comix1,
And that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Here where neither night nor day run
We watch Cueball build with Megan
And await more trebuchet fun
And that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Waiters split in sev'ral schisms:
Finitisms and Loopisms.
But no flame-war cataclysms!
And that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

We proclaim the Knights Temporal
Couched in language rather floral;
With our Mome we'll never quarrel2
'Cause she's good enough for we.
(chorus)

You may know us by aroma3;
We've no Time for care of soma;
Scarcely bathe and rarely coma
But that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Post of each new flag and tower;
Thread length growing by the hour4;
Reach 216
--I'll say, "Good enough for me!"
(chorus)

Ev'ry Frame new ONGs are ventured.
Let your feelings be not injured
When you're sneaky-edit-ninjer'd5,
And that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

We develop our own jargon;
Yes, we really are that far gone,
But it's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Fades and false loops start us whirling,
But the story keeps unfurling,
As new Waiters start BlitzGirling7,
And it's good enough for me!
(chorus)

So much new terrain is plotted,
With a far bank barely spotted,
When Time's servers8 get slashdotted!
But they're good enough for me.
(chorus)

Of Time's songs we've an armada.
Write 'em fresh; filk when we gotta.
Say, what rhymes with "Boom de yada"?9
Well, that's good enough for me.
(chorus)

Waiting for the final chapter
We debate which end is apter:
Rising tide or rav'ning 'raptor?
IT's not good enough for me.10

1. Soilant Black is pixels! Soilant Black is pixels!
2. As long as we have cake.
3. Clearly this verse refers to some ascetic or even anchorite sect; no self-respecting Knight Temporal would allow himself to become unclean.
4. Hour: a mythical unit of duration said to correspond roughly to one or two Newpix; usually used poetically.
5. Okay, I'm no W.S. Gilbert. You try to find rhymes for ninja.
6. "Hey, he's back!"
7. Or Blitzgirling or blitzgirling; she's not picky.
8. OTC servers, not NTP servers. (Nerd joke.)
9. Bboz dr yndn!
10. I was originally going to make each word in this verse link to a different End-of-Time theory. But I got lazy, and apparently stayed lazy. Sorry.
11. BlitzGirl's referenced here directly or by footnote at least three times; it's embarrassingly obvious I've developed a crush on her.
16. Ceci n'est pas une footnote.

Okay, now it's your turn. (Not-really-necessary explanation of why spoilered below.) Feel free to add verses yourself; just don't be offended if I edit them for meter, because (as previously noted) I'm anal about meter and rhyme. Or if you have a set of clever (or painful punful) rhymes, drop me a PM and I'll try to write a verse that uses them.
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In the Society for Creative Anachronism, the other unusual (read, non-Mundane) community I inhabit, dozens of bards have added their own verses to the SCA filk of this song, so that it's said to run to several hundred verses in all. The goal was to create a verse for every major and minor god and goddess, magical race, or major monster in every pantheon and mythos known to Western history. For example:

We all sing of Aphrodite;
She'll be out there in her nighty;
She is kind of wild and flighty;
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Latent22 wrote:So back to my original question. What would we call this 24 newpix unit of time? It does relate to outside days sort of but to follow the true flow of Time it is half outside days at the start so 'day' is not a good term on its own. newDay maybe? I don't know really so any ideas are welcome.
xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.
I also like newDay well enough.

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lmjb1964 wrote:... it's pretty unlikely anyone's going to remember everything that's been said.

Here's one I'm wondering about: What's the origin of Angelastic's butter monopoly?
And her buttmongery?

That is correct, right?

vvn wrote:I watched the Doctor Who episode "Power of Three". This seemed to fit so perfectly in with the OTC, it felt like they were in sync.
Doctor Who sounds like an intriguing show. I wish I had TV again.

woods wrote:And VD.

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KarMann wrote:(Fortunately, even then, it was a small enough drop that it was entirely on one key (PgDn), and didn't get between keys at all.)

PgDn. Ok. Someone make a note of that.
It looks like Cueball to me. IT'S A SIGN! A holy message. OTPgDn.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Sometimes I get so caught up in the OTT when I'm mini-blitzing, that I find myself scrolling past the newpix just so I can keep reading what has been said by err'one, only to realize I completely skipped/missed/didn't pay attention to the comic¹! Then I realize what I've done, shake my head at myself, and scroll back up to find the newpix.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

KarMann wrote:
Spoiler:
descor wrote:
KarMann wrote:
descor wrote:
SBN wrote:
descor wrote:
ergman wrote:AMIRIGHTORWR ONG

So, will the next few newpix be following Cueball's journey upstream from behind again or will we get another camera switch?

Any of our prophets care to weigh in?

I'm going to guess camera switch.

Perhaps BlitzGirl'll1 get her wish of an overhead view?

1That is fun to both read, write and say ... try it!

Except, I'm pretty sure it was buffygirl who wished for and gave an example of the overhead view, wasn't it? Though the "...[Gg]irl'll" part comes out the same either way.

Bugger, I couldn't remember which one it was and tried searching to no avail. I figured I had a 50:50 chance if I guessed!

Actually, I was already trying some simple search and coming up empty, but some allusion makes me think you were right, and it was BlitzGirl after all. Well, maybe I'll just wait for one of them to clarify.

Clarifying:
Well, I'm not sure who was very first, but I mentioned it on page 317, for TimeFrame 589:
buffygirl wrote:A couple of hypotheses:
- At some point we will pan up and over to a birds-eye view and from that angle all of our questions will be answered.
- <snip>

EDIT: Added the snip, to be consistent with the term "a couple"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

azule wrote:
Latent22 wrote:So back to my original question. What would we call this 24 newpix unit of time? It does relate to outside days sort of but to follow the true flow of Time it is half outside days at the start so 'day' is not a good term on its own. newDay maybe? I don't know really so any ideas are welcome.
xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.
I also like newDay well enough.

xip/newDay/Newday/icositetra[new]pix: This/these. Always 24 Newpix/Timeframes/Frames per xip/Newday/icositetrapix, so that there are two ITP per Outside/heretic/mundane day early on, and 1 newDay per day later. (You know, Waiters/Timewaiters/Initiates/Knights aren't really known for settling on one single term for something.)

ETA:
buffygirl wrote:
KarMann wrote:Actually, I was already trying some simple search and coming up empty, but some allusion makes me think you were right, and it was BlitzGirl after all. Well, maybe I'll just wait for one of them to clarify.

Clarifying:
Well, I'm not sure who was very first, but I mentioned it on page 317, for TimeFrame 589:
buffygirl wrote:A couple of hypotheses:
- At some point we will pan up and over to a birds-eye view and from that angle all of our questions will be answered.

It was BlitzGirl on page 531 who pointed out the potential problem with a bird's-eye view...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

ETERNALLY MEANDERONGGGGG

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Re: 1190: "Time"

azule wrote:xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.\

wip = week;
mip = month;
yip = year.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

azule wrote:
azule wrote:xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.\

wip = week;
mip = month;
yip = year.

Simple and easy to remember. I like!
Except that it is utterly heretical, according to the original TimeWaiters doctrines.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

buffygirl wrote:
azule wrote:
azule wrote:xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.\

wip = week;
mip = month;
yip = year.

Simple and easy to remember. I like!

And, should we need them,
cip = century
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Re: 1190: "Time"

azule wrote:
azule wrote:xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.\

wip = week;
mip = month;
yip = year.

And how many xips do we have in our week? 7? do we have wip'ends to rest and recover?
How many xips or wips in one mip? 31, 30 or 28 xips? Or 4 wips?
Do different mips have different names or different lengths?
And finally how many mips in one yip?

So many questions and options...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

jjjdavidson wrote:<snip>
ETA:
buffygirl wrote:
KarMann wrote:Actually, I was already trying some simple search and coming up empty, but some allusion makes me think you were right, and it was BlitzGirl after all. Well, maybe I'll just wait for one of them to clarify.

Clarifying:
Well, I'm not sure who was very first, but I mentioned it on page 317, for TimeFrame 589:
buffygirl wrote:A couple of hypotheses:
- At some point we will pan up and over to a birds-eye view and from that angle all of our questions will be answered.

It was BlitzGirl on page 531 who pointed out the potential problem with a bird's-eye view...

Oh! yes, yes. That was definitely not me. I misunderstood the discussion.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

jjjdavidson wrote:
azule wrote:
Latent22 wrote:So back to my original question. What would we call this 24 newpix unit of time? It does relate to outside days sort of but to follow the true flow of Time it is half outside days at the start so 'day' is not a good term on its own. newDay maybe? I don't know really so any ideas are welcome.
xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.
I also like newDay well enough.

xip/newDay/Newday/icositetra[new]pix: This/these. Always 24 Newpix/Timeframes/Frames per xip/Newday/icositetrapix, so that there are two ITP per Outside/heretic/mundane day early on, and 1 newDay per day later. (You know, Waiters/Timewaiters/Initiates/Knights aren't really known for settling on one single term for something.)

azule wrote:
azule wrote:xip = a collection of newpix, the word resembling "zip", like a zip-file, and it is "pix" backwards.\

wip = week;
mip = month;
yip = year.

---

And how many xips do we have in our week? 7? do we have wip'ends to rest and recover?
How many xips or wips in one mip? 31, 30 or 28 xips? Or 4 wips?
Do different mips have different names or different lengths?
And finally how many mips in one yip?

So many questions and options...

I thought "OutDay", "OutWeek", ... containing whatever number of newpix that occur in the period they would consider appropriate. Really it's a measurement from the outside of the OTC looking in, and it would be based on their units of day, week, month .... and the counting of newpix is not how they measure things. In one OutDay there are 47, in that one 48, that string seems to each have 24 ... their measures are very arbitrary. Four different lengths for an OutMonth, and one of those has a variable number of OutDays!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

descor wrote:
SBN wrote:
Spoiler:
fhorn wrote:
SBN wrote:
Angelastic wrote:So many popes/momes/motes, knights and cardinals, but we don't have any archdeacons yet. Can I be the Archdeacon of Buttermongery?

Yes, but what of the monopoly? What if I wish to sell butter? It can only be done... wait for it....... THROUGH HER This is the only condition set on commerce that I know of here on the OTT.

p.s. Angelastic, your River Valley post came up shortly after my original question, and I swear I SCOURED that thing for a mention of butter, thinking it was a response!

It was quite a lawless time in the OTT then, posters were able to claim titles and rights as they saw fit, and no one complained, for they saw their own chance to seize some power for themselves. And, now it has all been codified, so changing it will be a lot of effort. But hey, feel free to grab some other monopoly for yourself.

To be fair, everything had to be ratified by buffygirl. Somehow she seized power after Helper went AWOL - the rest of us meakly settled for minor roles in her puppet government.

who, me?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

jjjdavidson wrote:
Spoiler:
buffygirl wrote:
KarMann wrote:Actually, I was already trying some simple search and coming up empty, but some allusion makes me think you were right, and it was BlitzGirl after all. Well, maybe I'll just wait for one of them to clarify.

Clarifying:
Well, I'm not sure who was very first, but I mentioned it on page 317, for TimeFrame 589:
buffygirl wrote:A couple of hypotheses:
- At some point we will pan up and over to a birds-eye view and from that angle all of our questions will be answered.

It was BlitzGirl on page 531 who pointed out the potential problem with a bird's-eye view...

Yep, that's absolutely the one I was thinking of, and so I was absolutely wrong about who it was. Well, other than getting the initials BG right. Thanks for digging that up!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

htom wrote:Four different lengths for an OutMonth, and one of those has a variable number of OutDays!

Indeed. Shall that be in a leapyip?

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fatness wrote:
htom wrote:Four different lengths for an OutMonth, and one of those has a variable number of OutDays!

Indeed. Shall that be in a leapyip?

I know some may consider this heretical, but I'm going to continue to use regular Earth days, months, and years. Others are welcome to join me in sticking to methods predating Time.
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I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:
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Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:
Spoiler:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Valarya wrote:Also, wouldn't "Pi" page be 314 instead of 341?

Not if you start at digit 1419. Probably a prediction for the end of the OTC.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

htom wrote:I thought "OutDay", "OutWeek", ... containing whatever number of newpix that occur in the period they would consider appropriate. Really it's a measurement from the outside of the OTC looking in, and it would be based on their units of day, week, month .... and the counting of newpix is not how they measure things. In one OutDay there are 47, in that one 48, that string seems to each have 24 ... their measures are very arbitrary. Four different lengths for an OutMonth, and one of those has a variable number of OutDays!

Yeah I thought of doing it using outside time only but 24 newpix is quite good in some ways as it means each wiki page is dealing with the same amount of OTC TIME and the OTT had twice the traffic during the first 240 newpix so by doing it this way it evens out the amount of forum posts per wiki summery page.

One idea is just to make the title of each page something like "OTT Summery np1-24", "OTT Summery np25-48" etc or something similar. But if there was a simple term like xip or newDay that was easy for us and new people to the OTT would understand easily it would be cool.

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Hi. Decided to post an update of how far I am. I'm on page 38. Cueball is fixing the first castle after having falling and knocking part of it over.
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AND THEN
I DID IT AGAIN.

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HAL9000 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:
Spoiler:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!

Cool, glad I did something original I thought it would be a good way to visualize the shape of the landscape.

HAL9000 wrote:EDIT: never never never overlap spoilers and quotes.

Yes... thanks... actually, that kind of thing breaks my parser and those posts are skipped...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Kieryn wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:
Spoiler:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!

Cool, glad I did something original I thought it would be a good way to visualize the shape of the landscape.

One thing to note from that picture is how much they have shrunk as they travel up the river. I would assume that since they are getting smaller the camera is kind of zoomed out more. Or maybe the camera is fixed and its taking an x-ray view of them as they travel further away. Either way the river would be getting wider and we would need to zoom it in so M&C are the same height in all frames to compare the width of the river.

Looking closely the zoom is very slight. Only really get shorter in the last 2 frames. Most of the other frames they are a very consistent height. Maybe the last two frames where we can see the steep far side bit the zoom has changed but it was constant before that
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Caswallon wrote:Considering the rate of Newpages, its almost necessary for anyone to Blitzpost if they are away for any length of time, (e.g. Coma, Outsider work, etc..)

Yes, newpages remain fast and steady. Though according to latest chart data, post rates have settled back down to pre-BlitzGirl-arrival levels

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Kieryn wrote:
Caswallon wrote:Considering the rate of Newpages, its almost necessary for anyone to Blitzpost if they are away for any length of time, (e.g. Coma, Outsider work, etc..)

Yes, newpages remain fast and steady. Though according to latest chart data, post rates have settled back down to pre-BlitzGirl-arrival levels

Indeed they have. I only had 4ish newpages to read this morning after my coma.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Latent22 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:
Spoiler:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!

Cool, glad I did something original I thought it would be a good way to visualize the shape of the landscape.

One thing to note from that picture is how much they have shrunk as they travel up the river. I would assume that since they are getting smaller the camera is kind of zoomed out more. Or maybe the camera is fixed and its taking an x-ray view of them as they travel further away. Either way the river would be getting wider and we would need to zoom it in so M&C are the same height in all frames to compare the width of the river.

I think they only really shrink in the last 3 frames, so until that point I think the picture is fairly accurate.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

KarMann wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:
Spoiler:
buffygirl wrote:
KarMann wrote:Actually, I was already trying some simple search and coming up empty, but some allusion makes me think you were right, and it was BlitzGirl after all. Well, maybe I'll just wait for one of them to clarify.

Clarifying:
Well, I'm not sure who was very first, but I mentioned it on page 317, for TimeFrame 589:
buffygirl wrote:A couple of hypotheses:
- At some point we will pan up and over to a birds-eye view and from that angle all of our questions will be answered.

It was BlitzGirl on page 531 who pointed out the potential problem with a bird's-eye view...

Yep, that's absolutely the one I was thinking of, and so I was absolutely wrong about who it was. Well, other than getting the initials BG right. Thanks for digging that up!

Maybe the image I just made is a potential solution?
Spoiler:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Spoilered for wall-of-replies length:
• Eoink: re. smileys as punctuation
• Valarya: re. Aubronwood
• SBN and mscha: re. blitzposting
• fhorn: re. butter monopoly
• ggh: re. collection of the Holy Gospels (or BlitzBooks - I kind of like that term
• jjjdavidson: re. BlitzGirl references in his filk
• Latent22: re time units (xips, wips, etc)
• StratPlayer: re. what we can learn from the river trek
Spoiler:
Eoink wrote:(I've noticed I tend to use smileys as punctuation, so I don't finish a sentence with a full stop (period) if using an emoticon, is that normal Netiquette or have I made this up?)
I add the emoticon after the punctuation (if it occurs after a sentence), but I sometimes use a smiley as a close paren (like this and that could leave some people with unresolved angst for the rest of the day. The solution of course is to stop turning emoticons into graven images. That is sacrilege.

Valarya wrote:Well at least [Aubronwood] still exists!! He slapped that page all up in the OTT and just *poof* disappeared.
I've been wondering about him for a long time now. I just figured it's the way of the saints.

SBN wrote:Not completely sure if there is a consensus, but from what I've seen, I'd recommend.
[...]
Don't quote other Blitzers in your Blitzposts.
[...]
I'm not sure I fully agree with this one. If you are responding to something, quote what you need for context - just don't quote another entire blitzpost! (In general, edit your quotes - but that goes for everyone.) But Blitzers should be mindful that the context will have changed for the future to which they are transmitting the post.

I would add that Blitzers should not simply report passing their own signposts for its own sake (at least not after the first one or two, which are always exciting), and should not report passing other Blitzers' signposts unless there is great relevance (which should then be elaborated upon).

We should also note that communicating with time travelers can only be done through one who was in the OTT far enough in the past to reach the time traveler, and who posted often enough at that time for the sig to be noticed. Time travelers cannot read messages in our present (yet). I have made that mistake; I'm sure I'm not the only cueball here.

I agree with the rest of the guidelines. But see below.

mscha wrote:I feel strongly that we should not try to impose rules on Blitzers. If you don't like their posts, just skip them.
It's always a good idea to be “fresh, succinct and relevant”, not only in a Blitz or Ketchup, but also in regular posts. And overall, posts in this thread are – this is possibly the most civilized place on the internet that I have ever frequented.
I agree fully here. Wall-of-text issues are not due to blitzers. They are due to the immense seaishness of this thread. However, Blitzers may appreciate a few suggestions, since they have not experienced the present yet.

fhorn wrote:Yes, but what of the monopoly? What if I wish to sell butter? It can only be done... wait for it....... THROUGH HER
Well, here is an idea for how to do that.

ggh wrote:I also kinda wondered if there could be a place specifically for collecting major blitzes (forgive me if this already exists), like a "gospels" section on the wiki.
Try the Holy Books section of the Wiki.

jjjdavidson wrote:11. BlitzGirl's referenced here directly or by footnote at least three times; it's embarrassingly obvious I've developed a crush on her.
Who hasn't?

Latent22 wrote:And how many xips do we have in our week? 7? do we have wip'ends to rest and recover?
Are these decimal wips or common wips (or natural wips)? We have the opportunity to remake the calendar, let's not screw it up or we'll be stuck with the results for all time and for all of Time.

StratPlayer wrote:-- They conclude the river they've found is not big enough to supply all the water needed to raise the sea. But it doesn't look broken, either.
-- They then decide to hike upriver to find a ford, but as they're hiking they see that this river widens, and that "maybe it is big enough to fill the sea."
-- They pause to rest (and perhaps Cueball even dozes), then discuss that this river isn't "much farther from home than 'ours' at its driest," and that "when 'our' river gets too big it fills with stuff". But this river doesn't "look like that."

So. What can we learn from this?
That they don't get out much?

And since we are talking about rivers, I want to bring up the most awesome river song there is: . In my opinion, there is no song like it. In any (performance) set, in a slot where "Shenandoah" fits well, no other song can replace it. (The link above is to the Sons of Orpheus, on youtube.)

(edited to include TOC for the spoiler and a link to the song)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Latent22 wrote:
htom wrote:I thought "OutDay", "OutWeek", ... containing whatever number of newpix that occur in the period they would consider appropriate. Really it's a measurement from the outside of the OTC looking in, and it would be based on their units of day, week, month .... and the counting of newpix is not how they measure things. In one OutDay there are 47, in that one 48, that string seems to each have 24 ... their measures are very arbitrary. Four different lengths for an OutMonth, and one of those has a variable number of OutDays!

Yeah I thought of doing it using outside time only but 24 newpix is quite good in some ways as it means each wiki page is dealing with the same amount of OTC TIME and the OTT had twice the traffic during the first 240 newpix so by doing it this way it evens out the amount of forum posts per wiki summery page.

One idea is just to make the title of each page something like "OTT Summery np1-24", "OTT Summery np25-48" etc or something similar. But if there was a simple term like xip or newDay that was easy for us and new people to the OTT would understand easily it would be cool.

A while ago (my first post, in fact!) I suggested quatrigintioctonewpix (back when they were 30 outMinutes long...the good ol' days). In that vein, how about duodecaquatrinewpix? DDQpix for short.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Kieryn wrote:
Spoiler:
Latent22 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!

Cool, glad I did something original I thought it would be a good way to visualize the shape of the landscape.

One thing to note from that picture is how much they have shrunk as they travel up the river. I would assume that since they are getting smaller the camera is kind of zoomed out more. Or maybe the camera is fixed and its taking an x-ray view of them as they travel further away. Either way the river would be getting wider and we would need to zoom it in so M&C are the same height in all frames to compare the width of the river.

I think they only really shrink in the last 3 frames, so until that point I think the picture is fairly accurate.

Great visualization! Would it be difficult to make it again with the last three or so scenes are scaled up?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

astrocub wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
Spoiler:
Latent22 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Kieryn wrote:I think I'm close to 90 newpages behind... but for now I wish to contribute more than catch up. I strongly feel there will come a Time when It arrives, and that will be when I can sit back and follow the trail once more.

With that said, I'm sorry if I am duplicating anything... did anyone make this image yet?

Frames 1096- 1120:

mscha animated the island section, and there was a 3d version of that part as well, but nobody's posted something showing all of them at once. Thanks!

Cool, glad I did something original I thought it would be a good way to visualize the shape of the landscape.

One thing to note from that picture is how much they have shrunk as they travel up the river. I would assume that since they are getting smaller the camera is kind of zoomed out more. Or maybe the camera is fixed and its taking an x-ray view of them as they travel further away. Either way the river would be getting wider and we would need to zoom it in so M&C are the same height in all frames to compare the width of the river.

I think they only really shrink in the last 3 frames, so until that point I think the picture is fairly accurate.

Great visualization! Would it be difficult to make it again with the last three or so scenes are scaled up?

I'll see if I can get to work on that. Resolution may not be too good though.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

ucim wrote:
fhorn wrote:Yes, but what of the monopoly? What if I wish to sell butter? It can only be done... wait for it....... THROUGH HER
Well, here is an idea for how to do that.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

OK, back from the outside and excuse the blindpost, but Ineed to get current with the latest Time events. However, the very first thing I wanted to do was listen to this, since I couldn't download it from work:

yappobiscuits wrote:
Exodies wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:<snip>
Edit: oh. The instrumental I have is longer than the original. Anyone wanna write a fourth verse? Or it could just keep going "boom de yada" for a slightly awkwardly long amount of time...

I could do you a custom instrumental track if you want (I'm a musician/composer/producer type dude, not that anyone would know that yet as I haven't really properly introduced myself on these fora... but hey, you know now!)

Sure, whip it out as Frank would say. I think everyone would be delighted to hear it.

Alrighty then! Here's what I've cooked up... Instrumental version, and a version with my not-so-great singing for demonstrative purposes. I whapped out my ukulele for this one! Fun.

That is really very, very good yappo!!! I love the instrumentation and your signing is actually wonderful for the song -- understated, very on tempo, perfect inflections. I play guitar fairly decent I think, but I can't sing my way out of a wet paper bag -- compared to me, Bob Dylan, Joe Walsh, and Neil Young sound like the Three Tenors. But you have a great voice! I'd say this was a fabulous job!

Now to ketchup....
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