1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Thu May 16, 2013 9:45 pm UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:
Spoiler:
Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:The past is gONG
Image


We now know that Time has a past, something I do not believe we have discussed previously.


Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


We must cautious of asking of heretical questions but I have some thoughts
1) Yes. GLR has a plan. Predestination - it is all accounted for.
2) No. See 1.
3) Perhaps, but to guess is always difficult as we do not fully understand 1.

First, we actually don't know that time has a past--the campsite could have been used at the same time that Cuegan were building castles. It was days ago.

Second, I wouldn't put it past GLR to have spies here, and put little easter eggs or subplots in the OTC for us so long as it doesn't interfere with his great plan. It seems likely that while there is a plan, it is not a plan with no room for improvisation, and the date modified stamps imply that he has used it at one time or another.


We know that action does happen beyond our view for the GLR wills that some things remain unknown to us. But it has always been suggested that the action happen concurrently with what we are allowed to see. I do not recall if Cuegan have ever spoken in the past tense, but I may be wrong. Please, if other instance of past tense speech be known I would be humbled to have them pointed out to me. (Though now that I think about it, does not Megan refer to the actions of the sea in past tense, eluding to previous experience?) Could the campfire be the actions of Le Petite?

From other GLR created comics I do not get the impression that the GLR tailors them to those that read them. Instead, I believe that it is his brilliance that appeals to us and that his thoughts, like ours, are such that the stories/jokes only appear to be tailored to those who would follow the GLR. For if it were not so, would we follow him?

In any case, certainly the end must be known to the GLR, for if it were not, why should we be commanded to wait for it?

Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...

Why oh why oh why do you keep saying the OTCAT means wait for the end? It means wait for the next Frame. Otherwise we could come back two years from Thursday and look at the end. (And so in a sense, we are in a loop - frame after frame after frame).

And - unless you are Robinson Crusoe you wouldn't say 'there are people here' you would say 'I found some sort of campsite', because there are always people here.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 9:49 pm UTC

Earthling on Mars wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:
HES wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:
HES wrote:I never got the American use of "legos"... to me, they are pieces/parts/sets of lego. If you have a sand pit, you don't say it's full of sands... [/flamebait]


You can count Legos. You can't count sand.

Well, I guess you can. But it's a lot harder.

You can also count rices, by the way.

Well, maybe we should make everything consistent. If you can't stand "Legos", then here's some pieces of brick:

img

Those are "bricks of (probably) clay", much like the cupcakes are adorned with "bricks of lego". The only time legos would be appropriate is if you have the presence of various different brands, i.e. "There's real lego, and then there are the fake legos" GAH :evil:


"Lego bricks" I could deal with -- bricks made by the company Lego. But "bricks of lego" is just ridiculous -- bricks made of a material called "lego"?


Yeah no, this is not really how we brits see it. It's more like many bricks make up some lego. Kind of like molecules make up a substance. You would not call H20 molecules "waters" nor are they made of water, but together they make up water.

Edit: for extreme clarity:

I have many water molecules in my container full of water.
=
I have many lego bricks in my container full of lego.


Ah, but maybe we should be calling H20 molecules "waters". :twisted:

to be fair, the bricks arent made from l;ego, they are made by Lego, and lego bricks are nearly their only multinational product.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 9:52 pm UTC

Exodies wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:
Spoiler:
Dracomax wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:The past is gONG
Image


We now know that Time has a past, something I do not believe we have discussed previously.


Kieryn wrote:
ttscp wrote:Thoughts on the OTC and the nature of Story
I've been thinking about what it means for the OTC if it is a story. (Not that it has to be; I am biased to think in stories because I am a storyteller, but that's another story.) Story and plot are closely connected so I mix the two concepts in my thinking a lot.

A story has an ending and it's generally pointed toward that ending from the very first moment. A story has a genre. I mean more than western, romance, science fiction; I mean comedy, horror, love story, drama.

Beginning/middle/end and a prediction.

The people in Hollywood will tell you that a story has plot points, two of them. What they mean is that a story has a beginning, middle and ending. I disagree with the Hollywood people, especially when they start talking about Joseph Cambell (one of the reasons that I am not a Hollywood storyteller) but not really about the beginning/middle/end bit.

I'm guessing that the sandcastle frames were the beginning. They set the scene, introduced Cueball and Megan and the mysterious La Petite, let us know something about the world (river small, sea big), and introduced the problem the "sea is rising." (I imagine that last in the voice of chicken little, but that's another digression.)

We fade out and in (very Hollywood) to the river trek and shortly after that Megan says, "Yeah. But that's what the first part of not ending looks like." (Many thanks to all of you who analyze (overanalyze?) and document the OTC, I used the wiki for this one.) That could be a meta comment, indicating the first plot point at the end of the beginning. (And then again it could just be finishing the exchange: Megan - "Maybe the sea doesn't end," Cueball - "We haven't walked very far.", I too have been known to overanalyze.)

The Hollywood "rule" for plot points is 30 pages to the first, 60 pages to the second, 30 pages to the end. A page a minute means a two hour movie. It gets cut in editing and these are only rough markers, but it will do for my analysis.

One quarter of the story is the beginning. If that is true, then the OTC may end somewhere between 881*4 ("Bye") and 1006*4 ("The first part of not ending"). Between 3,524 and 4,024 frames the OTC will end.

Almost every prediction we make about the OTC has been wrong, so feel free to take this with a grain of semencancercaffienebabies.

Genre or not?

In spite of the lurking molpy, I don't think this is a horror comic. Randall just doesn't seem to write that kind of stuff and there haven't been the requisite small scares to get us in the right emotional state for the bigger ones.

Comedy is a possibility, because the OTC is a (wait for it), "comic", but I really think it's going to have a more serious ending. This is more intuition than strong reasoning so feel free to disagree with me. (I know you will, so I feel better if I give you permission.) There haven't been a lot of comic moments in the comic. (There have been in the OTT, however; good thing I work at home otherwise my coworkers would be worried about me, too.)

Romantic is another possibility. Randall writes the most romantic stick characters I know (insert link to whirling Megan slowing down the world to spend a little more time with Cueball). But I don't see how the beginning points to romance. He did bring her berries, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Drama is the best possibility I think, but, again, I don't see much set up for it.

Lastly, there is the strong possibility that Randall is just messing with our heads, and it will go on until he gets tired of it, or we stop being messed with, or he has finally gotten into the head of everyone in the world.

Ending

The more I think about this, the less sure I am of any conclusions. I don't even know if this is a story, it has some elements of one, but others defy the conventions. I don't know whether it will loop or end or (in theory) go on forever.

I figured I'd offer my thoughts and see what anyone else on this (intelligent, articulate and above all handsome) OTT had to offer.

Ouch. The latest ONG, "I found a campsite", is also eligible to be a plot point, and may point us toward horror. The GLR always manages to confound (ninja) my thoughts as soon as I get them articulated.

Edit: fixed Randall world domination sentence.


Best analysis of late I would say. Obviously there is story here. The Big Questions I see are:

1) Has GLR already figured out the whole plot, or is he still making it up as he goes? What level of detail has already been pre-determined.

2) Is GLR hearing / following us here at all on any level? Does anything we say here ever impact anything in the OTC?

3) Is there any mystery/connection/puzzle or anything connected to The Outside beyond that of typical story/metaphor?


We must cautious of asking of heretical questions but I have some thoughts
1) Yes. GLR has a plan. Predestination - it is all accounted for.
2) No. See 1.
3) Perhaps, but to guess is always difficult as we do not fully understand 1.

First, we actually don't know that time has a past--the campsite could have been used at the same time that Cuegan were building castles. It was days ago.

Second, I wouldn't put it past GLR to have spies here, and put little easter eggs or subplots in the OTC for us so long as it doesn't interfere with his great plan. It seems likely that while there is a plan, it is not a plan with no room for improvisation, and the date modified stamps imply that he has used it at one time or another.


We know that action does happen beyond our view for the GLR wills that some things remain unknown to us. But it has always been suggested that the action happen concurrently with what we are allowed to see. I do not recall if Cuegan have ever spoken in the past tense, but I may be wrong. Please, if other instance of past tense speech be known I would be humbled to have them pointed out to me. (Though now that I think about it, does not Megan refer to the actions of the sea in past tense, eluding to previous experience?) Could the campfire be the actions of Le Petite?

From other GLR created comics I do not get the impression that the GLR tailors them to those that read them. Instead, I believe that it is his brilliance that appeals to us and that his thoughts, like ours, are such that the stories/jokes only appear to be tailored to those who would follow the GLR. For if it were not so, would we follow him?

In any case, certainly the end must be known to the GLR, for if it were not, why should we be commanded to wait for it?

Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
Wait for it...

Why oh why oh why do you keep saying the OTCAT means wait for the end? It means wait for the next Frame. Otherwise we could come back two years from Thursday and look at the end. (And so in a sense, we are in a loop - frame after frame after frame).

And - unless you are Robinson Crusoe you wouldn't say 'there are people here' you would say 'I found some sort of campsite', because there are always people here.

You are making the same mistake you accuse others of making. You assume it means wait for the next fram(which would logically have to change at the end, as there would be no next frame) whereas they assume taht it means the end. there is norerason to beleive one over the other, and so trying to convert others to your way of thinking will work as well as trying to recruit people into the western paradox church, which will only have you if you claim not to be amember.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 9:53 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:
Kieryn wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:
HES wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:
HES wrote:I never got the American use of "legos"... to me, they are pieces/parts/sets of lego. If you have a sand pit, you don't say it's full of sands... [/flamebait]


You can count Legos. You can't count sand.

Well, I guess you can. But it's a lot harder.

You can also count rices, by the way.

Well, maybe we should make everything consistent. If you can't stand "Legos", then here's some pieces of brick:

img

Those are "bricks of (probably) clay", much like the cupcakes are adorned with "bricks of lego". The only time legos would be appropriate is if you have the presence of various different brands, i.e. "There's real lego, and then there are the fake legos" GAH :evil:


"Lego bricks" I could deal with -- bricks made by the company Lego. But "bricks of lego" is just ridiculous -- bricks made of a material called "lego"?


Yeah no, this is not really how we brits see it. It's more like many bricks make up some lego. Kind of like molecules make up a substance. You would not call H20 molecules "waters" nor are they made of water, but together they make up water.

Edit: for extreme clarity:

I have many water molecules in my container full of water.
=
I have many lego bricks in my container full of lego.


Ah, but maybe we should be calling H20 molecules "waters". :twisted:

to be fair, the bricks arent made from l;ego, they are made by Lego, and lego bricks are nearly their only multinational product.

The problem I see is that Kieryn has a container full of the company called Lego, which is not a tangible substance.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Vytron » Thu May 16, 2013 9:54 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Thu May 16, 2013 9:55 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:
Valarya wrote:Or Lego Cupcakes. But these are only for people who call them Legos. Image
Spoiler:
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That would be me. Nomch nomch nomch... Hey, crunchy!

Thanks, I'm right there with you. Saying, "Look, a bunch of Lego!" sounds really weird.

The cupcakes were delicious, by the way. If you stack them together, can you build things with them?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 9:58 pm UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:
Valarya wrote:Or Lego Cupcakes. But these are only for people who call them Legos. Image
Spoiler:
Image

That would be me. Nomch nomch nomch... Hey, crunchy!

Thanks, I'm right there with you. Saying, "Look, a bunch of Lego!" sounds really weird.

The cupcakes were delicious, by the way. If you stack them together, can you build things with them?

Yes─
Spoiler:
many layers of fat cells.

I was thinking a cake...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 10:00 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:
Spoiler:
Image

If I've learned something about Time, is that it's not about the ending, but about the journey.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 10:00 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Spoiler:
Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

Image

If I've learned something about Time, is that it's not about the ending, but about the journey.
Image
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 10:01 pm UTC

Gone for a newpix, Image takes almost two...

BlitzGirl wrote:Newpixbot is cute but it doesn't seem like he's much of a conversationalist (please don't say anything to him, he works so hard to post the newpix)...

Don't worry, I wont. That'd break it's little CPU. Image

Valarya wrote:
Spoiler:
Opiboble wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:GettONG up...
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I wonder if the river is in the same direction/newpix as cueball went last time and found the camp4.

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Here you go.
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mscha wrote:
jjdavidson wrote:Steganographic-Sig!

This has bothered me for a while... You do realize that something that advertizes itself as steganographic, by definition isn't; right?

Of course, you are absolutely correct. I must have added that some night when I was even more coma-deprived than usual. Surely I intended it to be some sort of lame reverse-psychology joke, since of course there's nothing hidden in my signature at all.

But how do you know that, if you have no recollection of adding it?
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FTFY.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 10:02 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Spoiler:
Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Thu May 16, 2013 10:07 pm UTC

mscha: Did you not see me acknowledge the mistake? I actually know the difference, I'm just bad about mixing it up. Maybe if The danes and the dutch named their countries anything like the name of the people /languages they speak, the it'd be easier.

Of course, as a citizen of the USA, who speaks English and is called by the name of one of two contintents, I have lot of room to complain.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Thu May 16, 2013 10:07 pm UTC

GoONG downhill from here...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Thu May 16, 2013 10:07 pm UTC

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I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:
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That's great !!

But wait.. a comic‽ We should start a thread to talk about it! So anyone with an idea of a comic could post in And we could start a thread on that one...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 10:10 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Thu May 16, 2013 10:11 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

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Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Whoa, Vytron. Very nice Stupendous work. I love it. (Not just because I'm in it but I like that, too.) It's a wonderful way to share your experience of blitzing with the rest of us. Woot!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby astrocub » Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm UTC

mathrec wrote:
Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

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Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Whoa, Vytron. Very nice Stupendous work. I love it. (Not just because I'm in it but I like that, too.) It's a wonderful way to share your experience of blitzing with the rest of us. Woot!


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 10:24 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:mscha: Did you not see me acknowledge the mistake? I actually know the difference, I'm just bad about mixing it up.

Yeah, I saw that, and no feelings were hurt in the first place :) , but I just wanted to post those two links. Especially the second one is worth watching.
Dracomax wrote: Maybe if The danes and the dutch named their countries anything like the name of the people /languages they speak, the it'd be easier.

But we did. (Nederland/Nederlands/Nederlanders.) It's the English – not the Americans, for a change – that screwed mustarded it up. (Watch that second link, repeated here for your convenience; it's not just hilarious, but also informative!)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BytEfLUSh » Thu May 16, 2013 10:27 pm UTC

OMGLR! I haven't seen such a surge of creativity since BlitzGirl's Boom De Yada...

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[snip]

No surcease from my reflecting stopped the questions interjecting:
'Is the artist now expecting? Or is it his family's split?
Is it all 'bout global warming? Is it cancer lesions swarming?
I pray you, be more informing! All these mysteries remit.
For my peace of mind and sanity, the mysteries remit.'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

'Your coyness is most unpleasing. I won't wait,' I shouted, wheezing -
'All these pictures are just teasing, no intention to commit.
Black stick figure and sand castle, images so trite and facile
They're not worth near this much hassle. Leave my monitor unlit.
Take thy comic off my browser; leave my monitor unlit!'
Quoth the alt-text: 'Wait for it.'

And the alt-text, ne'er updating, still is waiting, still is waiting
As each new frame looms, relating tick by tick the drawn-out skit.
I can but, through days ensuing, ponder on my soul's undoing,
The one hope for my renewing being that I somehow quit
Whilst the alt-text whispers softly that I'm doomed never to quit.
I can only... wait for it.


As a big fan of Poe, I love it!

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As soon as I saw the newpix at the time, I thought it would really be a movie-like Story. I'm really amazed that you wrote your post before seeing the newpix, which kind of proves your point. There have been debates about whether GLR is spying on OTT to make OTC clearer... Now we can debate whether he's spying on our own thoughts. :)

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I got a lot of pretty, pretty hats, I call friends
We don't want it to be like, the horror that was LOST.
Or the ones who cancelled firefly, turning fire to frost!

So I called up the P-FAN,
"Please bring me newpix"
He said, "We haven't had a new ONG here since what outsiders call 'six'"

[snip]


Damn it, I love that song. And that is a great cover. I've just put on a "Hotel California" instrumental, and sang your lyrics in my head. It sync's very well, I love it! :D

What a great needle-pulled thing. Keep it up! :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 10:29 pm UTC

astrocub wrote:
mathrec wrote:
Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Spoiler:
Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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If I've learned something about Time, is that it's not about the ending, but about the journey.
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~Vytron

Whoa, Vytron. Very nice Stupendous work. I love it. (Not just because I'm in it but I like that, too.) It's a wonderful way to share your experience of blitzing with the rest of us. Woot!


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I like that idea, but sadly I don't have photoshop at work :/
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 pm UTC

HES wrote:
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HES wrote:
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HES wrote:I never got the American use of "legos"... to me, they are pieces/parts/sets of lego. If you have a sand pit, you don't say it's full of sands... [/flamebait]

You can count Legos. You can't count sand.

Well, I guess you can. But it's a lot harder.

You can also count rices, by the way.

Well, maybe we should make everything consistent. If you can't stand "Legos", then here's some pieces of brick:

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Those are "bricks of (probably) clay", much like the cupcakes are adorned with "bricks of lego". The only time legos would be appropriate is if you have the presence of various different brands, i.e. "There's real lego, and then there are the fake legos" GAH :evil:


"Lego bricks" I could deal with -- bricks made by the company Lego. But "bricks of lego" is just ridiculous -- bricks made of a material called "lego"?

I'll admit that was a bad example, I was trying to point out it was the (singular) collective term. I would never use the phrase in normal speech.

I am also well aware that it's an american thing, and people can call them whatever they want. (Though in doing so I'd prefer they didn't refer to "American English" as "English" - as long as that distinction is made they can butcher|improve it all they like)


I know you're not intentionally flaming, but what you said is rather irritating.

I believe that referring to a brand such as this is a cultural thing and shouldn't, in my opinion, be lumped in with your typical language/grammar/whatever discussion. You'll note that a large majority of people in this thread, American or not, have admitted to saying the shortened 'legos' when speaking regardless of what the 'correct' form should be.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 pm UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:
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Valarya wrote:Or Lego Cupcakes. But these are only for people who call them Legos. Image
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That would be me. Nomch nomch nomch... Hey, crunchy!

Thanks, I'm right there with you. Saying, "Look, a bunch of Lego!" sounds really weird.

The cupcakes were delicious, by the way. If you stack them together, can you build things with them?

Yes─
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Ah. That explains a lot. (A lot of weight, that is.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 pm UTC

foilman wrote:The whole LEGO vs legos argument is dealt with here quite well:

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10839/legos-not-lego

Basically boils down to North American vs most of the rest of the world.

OK. The link was a good discussion. Thanks, foilman!

I have two things to say on the subject.

1) LEGO is concerned about trademark erosion, and they are trying to prevent people referring to locking bits of plastic as legos. Once that is firmly entrenched without them defending their trademark, then LEGO bricks can go the way of the Zipper slide fastener. So to really resist their attempts to shape the language, you need to refer to their product improperly: "Hey, these don't fit together very well." *Looks at the bits of plastic* "That's because there are Mega Bloks legos mixed in with the LEGO legos--sorry about that."

2) LEGO is generally treated as a mass noun in Europe, but is not treated that way consistently in North America. I'm sympathetic to both, but when Lego is used to refer to the pieces our family's usage tends toward the singular noun. I think that's because the most common usages are "Pick up your Legos" and "I need some more blue Legos to finish my xxxx. Can I get some from your yyyy?" In these cases, the pieces are definitely being talked about in a countable, individually manipulated objects. We rarely refer to them as bricks.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Thu May 16, 2013 10:34 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

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Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Yay, Vytron! This is great! I hope someone puts me in a comic someday.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Thu May 16, 2013 10:37 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

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Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu May 16, 2013 10:37 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:
Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Spoiler:
Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Yay, Vytron! This is great! I hope someone puts me in a comic someday.


Ditto!! And ditto.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Thu May 16, 2013 10:40 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BytEfLUSh » Thu May 16, 2013 10:41 pm UTC

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spamjam wrote:I just want to note that "Boobs Emote See" is an anagram of MobTeeseboose.
Jes' sayin'.


BTW, it may as well be "Obese Bosom Tee". And it's still online. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu May 16, 2013 10:42 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Dracomax wrote:mscha: Did you not see me acknowledge the mistake? I actually know the difference, I'm just bad about mixing it up.

Yeah, I saw that, and no feelings were hurt in the first place :) , but I just wanted to post those two links. Especially the second one is worth watching.
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But we did. (Nederland/Nederlands/Nederlanders.) It's the English – not the Americans, for a change – that screwed mustarded it up. (Watch that second link, repeated here for your convenience; it's not just hilarious, but also informative!)

Also Holland, just to screw with people (including my 26 year old sister)

@Valarya - fair point. I get rather overprotective of thing which are, in the end, only my opinions
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Thu May 16, 2013 10:43 pm UTC

Vytron wrote:Wall of post warning, as big as the sea which is big and all that.

Spoiler:
Thanks everyone for your sigcouragement! Image I've realized stopping signposting doesn't mean I have to stop participating at all.

I heard you like comics, so I put a comic in your thread about your thread about a comic:

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This has perfectly captured in comic form the experience of following the One True Thread.

And therefore, based on no authority vested in me whatsoever, I hereby declare it the One True Comic Of The One True Thread Of The One True Comic (OTCOTOTTOTOTC).

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 10:46 pm UTC

In other Creator news: blag.
I think I'll have to switch from Firefox to Chrome to see how it behaves on the OTT...

Edit: can't find any large enough numbers on the OTT. I haven't checked the whole thing, though, that would take at least three icositetranewpix (or in Outside units, 259,200 seconds). (See what I did there?)
Edit2: doesn't do a thing, with or without thousands separator. And when I press “Edit”, it mangles the text to “... would take at least (or in Outside units. (See what I did there?)”. A bit too buggy.
Edit3: on Wikipedia it's useful, though. Here's what it does on the Moon:
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Orbital characteristics
Perigee 362,570 km [≈ Moon's orbital distance from Earth]
(0.0024 AU)
Apogee 405,410 km [≈ Moon's orbital distance from Earth]
(0.0027 AU)
Semi-major axis 384,399 km [≈ Moon's orbital distance from Earth]
(0.00257 AU)[1]
That helps!
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Postby Opiboble » Thu May 16, 2013 10:53 pm UTC

mscha wrote:In other Creator news: blag.
I think I'll have to switch from Firefox to Chrome to see how it behaves on the OTT...


I would want to repurpose said dictionary to give strange comparisons... Like comparing body weight to the average amount of peni it would take to equal said weight.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Thu May 16, 2013 10:55 pm UTC

*eagerly awaits next chapter of the story by Earthling on Mars*
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*enjoys astrocub's comicpost*
*considers doing something like this*
*flashes back to Boom De Yada*
*realizes how much Time it would take*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Thu May 16, 2013 10:58 pm UTC

Opiboble wrote:
mscha wrote:In other Creator news: blag.
I think I'll have to switch from Firefox to Chrome to see how it behaves on the OTT...


I would want to repurpose said dictionary to give strange comparisons... Like comparing body weight to the average amount of peni it would take to equal said weight.

Sort of like expressing laptop screen sizes in mammal brains laid end-to-end diagonally?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Thu May 16, 2013 11:04 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
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Dracomax wrote:I always think Legos, even knowing that Lego is the name of the company, and not the product. It sounds right to me, and I really don't care what the dutch think. Why should they get to name the product, just because it is a dutch company?

Because it's a danish company. :P

What, you expect an American to know the difference?

I swear I knew that, but I get them mixed up because neither country sounds like the name of it's population...
Honestly, I don't see why anyone should care what North America calls the product so long as they aren't forcing others to do the same. Usually, and especially in this case, it's a derivation of the languages spoken and the logic thereof. I will call it lego bricks, but honestly, it's "Go play with your legos," or "Pick your legos up."


Well, it had to happen, so blame me: "Lego my ego!" <-- double meaning depending on whether you pronounce "ego" properly. Mmmmm waffles...to morph into a different long-running topic here. Let's make some waffles that interlock so we can build things with them.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Thu May 16, 2013 11:06 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Thu May 16, 2013 11:07 pm UTC

@Vytron - Yay, you posted! If this is your new version of signposting, I'm all for it. (Don't forget to include yourself more.) Summation by comicification!!! Who's getting mad then? 8-)

HAL9000 wrote:I, at least, will be checking in here every once in a while after the OTC reaches its conclusion. And if the Powers That Be get angry at us for being off-topic, we can start a thread in the General subforum.
Or we keep it ontopix by creating fanmods on the newpix(hour) or once a xip(day) ad infinitum. Then we talk as we normally do, and enjoy "newpix", and never have to worry about those messy OtherForums. 8-)


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Once upon a morning cheery, while I pondered, slightly bleary
Over many a new webcomic full of dreary trendy wit,
Suddenly with brief foreboding I beheld an image loading -
'T'was a small JPEG decoding on my panel bit by bit.
Just a monochrome depiction taking shape there bit by bit.
I thought, 'What's the point of it?'
To add the chorus of cheers and adulation: Superb! I always loved this poem and every change you made fit with both the original and with us. I do mean this all.

One point of contention though....it's not a JPEG. It is a PNG. I think saying P-N-G (not "ping") would work, unless you were very closely following meter. But as I recall, even Poe didn't follow it that closely. :)


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Red Hal wrote:Ketchup from page 615: Tree that looks like broccoli or ...
Broccoli that looks like a tree?
http://db.tt/l7mYyw6j
It looks good, style-wise. Might be a better idea to post it in a more reasonable size, for the purpose of a good overview instead of for detail (or for printing).


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mscha wrote:That doesn't refresh the page, though, which was the purpose of this exercise. (Click the title then refresh, that works well. Perhaps better than clicking a tiny icon.)
Right. I missed that aspect. Sorry (to you; to RobIrr).


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Angelastic wrote:Dracomax, you might know the answer to this: do dragons breathe phoenixes? If so, does it only happen when they've been eating eggs, or can it be at any time?
This gets my head all a-flustered with thinking. Probably not a good idea. That would be great to have the interspecies connection (like bees and flowers, etc.). I'm thinking the dragon eats a struggling victim, and in order to keep it in it's mouth, chars it up with it's fire, with mouth closed. Finishes eating what is basically ash..... you see where I'm going with this... and the ash travels through the emflammation system *shrug* and gets breathed out as fire.... yes... reborn, as a phoenix. So, one day we could all be phoenix phoeniges.
Also, that means "bird-types" aren't the only kind of phoenix that could exist. Molpy-type phoenix could exist. :)


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Angelastic wrote:Nertx, perhaps, from Hertz and newpix?
That's utterly unpronounceable. *pause* I like it!


k.bookbinder wrote:The Foam Maiden sounds awfully terribly comfortable.
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Yes indeed, why is something full of awe not good, but fully awe is good, and though something terrible is not good, a thing can be terribly good? Hm.

I propose the following:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Thu May 16, 2013 11:08 pm UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:ShrubbONGery...
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Not the same hillside Cueball walked down earlier, I notice.


They are going toward the river, now. So that means that when Cueball found the campsite, he was walking away from the river.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu May 16, 2013 11:08 pm UTC

I guess this proves once and for all that Cueball didn't wander off to the right, earlier, but probably indeed perpendicular to our view of their universe.

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taixzo wrote:They are going toward the river, now. So that means that when Cueball found the campsite, he was walking away from the river.

He wasn't walking back either (see frames from ~ 2 icositetranewpix ago). So he must have gone in some other direction.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Thu May 16, 2013 11:08 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:[quote="someone else"
Ah, but maybe we should be calling H20 molecules "waters". :twisted:


Ok fine, if US Americans start calling H20 molecules "waters" I will concede they are permitted to call lego bricks "legos" on account of consistency. However, I personally believe that if US Americans are unable to do so because uh, some people out there in that nation don't have legos...[/quote]

Yeah? Well, I came to Casablanca because of the waters. You can look it up. :P
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