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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:32 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
I guess we'll know if Cuegan gets trampled by a herd of molpycows.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:33 pm UTC
by thirds
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:If it's a fence, it might be one like this:
Spoiler:
Image

That is a good point, more of a cattle fence then a wall fence.

True, but it's rather thin for something supposed to hold back very large animals. Too tall for a molpy or squirlemur fence.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:34 pm UTC
by SBN
astrocub wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:I would argue that it is the fenceposts that are regularly spaced, and the vines followed those paths...


If that was supposed to be a fence, it would be no good at keeping anything out (in?)
There's nothing between the posts, and the vines have the right growth/leaf shape to be grapes.
Also, grapevines will keep growing a loooong time, albeit without producing much grapes, after they've been abandoned.

ETA: I've lived near wine country much of my life :)

It could be a (long disused) electric fence.
I still think cultivated plants though.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:37 pm UTC
by kenmelken
thirds wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:If it's a fence, it might be one like this:
Spoiler:
Image

That is a good point, more of a cattle fence then a wall fence.

True, but it's rather thin for something supposed to hold back very large animals. Too tall for a molpy or squirlemur fence.


Most cattle fences aren't really there to "hold them back" per se. That is, they don't have to be particularly strong enough to withstand a cow. Cattle will naturally obey them because they don't usually have the desire to exert effort to try going over them (usually not possible) or taking them down.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:37 pm UTC
by astrocub
Ooh, electric fence I like!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:38 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
I like this picture about electric fences:

Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:42 pm UTC
by slinches
The "rail" is only one pixel high (1/37 q) which makes it less than [heretical]1.8 inches[/heretical] thick assuming a Cueball of average male height. That's a bit thin for rail, but too thick for a wire.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:43 pm UTC
by Opiboble
kenmelken wrote:
thirds wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:If it's a fence, it might be one like this:
Spoiler:
Image

That is a good point, more of a cattle fence then a wall fence.

True, but it's rather thin for something supposed to hold back very large animals. Too tall for a molpy or squirlemur fence.


Most cattle fences aren't really there to "hold them back" per se. That is, they don't have to be particularly strong enough to withstand a cow. Cattle will naturally obey them because they don't usually have the desire to exert effort to try going over them (usually not possible) or taking them down.

Well it is mostly they are to dumb to understand that they can knock it down. That and if you have a stamped they can knock it down without getting to hurt, so you don't have a ton of dead cattle. You just track them down and herd them back into an enclosure.

slinches wrote:The "rail" is only one pixel high (1/37 q) which makes it less than [heretical]1.8 inches[/heretical] thick assuming a Cueball of average male height. That's a bit thin for rail, but too thick for a wire.


With that then I will settle on it being used to grow a hedge.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:44 pm UTC
by Exodies
And besides, the cattle would just walk round it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:45 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
I'm not sure how we would be able to see a "rail" thinner than 1 pixel?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:46 pm UTC
by kenmelken
slinches wrote:The "rail" is only one pixel high (1/37 q) which makes it less than [heretical]1.8 inches[/heretical] thick assuming a Cueball of average male height. That's a bit thin for rail, but too thick for a wire.


Just because it may not be the best built fence doesn't mean it isn't one. Also, since it couldn't exactly be smaller than 1 pixel high, how else could he represent a wire without having to make it a bit thicker proportionally than those in the Outside?

Alternatively, maybe it is more of a cable spanning the posts than a wire.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:49 pm UTC
by Exodies
Is it the Internet cable?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:50 pm UTC
by mscha
BlitzGirl wrote:I'm not sure how we would be able to see a "rail" thinner than 1 pixel?

By ENHANCE!ing it, of course.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:51 pm UTC
by slinches
kenmelken wrote:
slinches wrote:The "rail" is only one pixel high (1/37 q) which makes it less than [heretical]1.8 inches[/heretical] thick assuming a Cueball of average male height. That's a bit thin for rail, but too thick for a wire.


Just because it may not be the best built fence doesn't mean it isn't one. Also, since it couldn't exactly be smaller than 1 pixel high, how else could he represent a wire without having to make it a bit thicker proportionally than those in the Outside?

Alternatively, maybe it is more of a cable spanning the posts than a wire.

True. Although, a cable that thick would sag unless it's under a lot of tension (and would have needed an anchor on the end of the fence). But, it could be steel tubing.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:54 pm UTC
by RobIrr
I seem to be starting each reading permanently 20 newpages behind at the moment...

So a little bit of a saucy post...

Love the newpixbot stories..

Rule110's American Pie parody - Brilliant.


azule wrote:
RobIrr wrote:Right... Time off to brush Tiddler's hair and get her to school...
Is that her name, or were you saying "toddler"?


Tiddler is just a pet name ... it translates usually to "small person" .. :D


Those Baobab Trees!! Cripes. And Wow! (And mscha's colour version... lovely!)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:54 pm UTC
by lunarul
they just went through it, so it's not an enclosure.. so if it's a fence, it's pretty useless.
it looks exactly like a vineyard to me and the height is just as I know it from my own family's vineyard..

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:55 pm UTC
by kenmelken
slinches wrote:
kenmelken wrote:
slinches wrote:The "rail" is only one pixel high (1/37 q) which makes it less than [heretical]1.8 inches[/heretical] thick assuming a Cueball of average male height. That's a bit thin for rail, but too thick for a wire.


Just because it may not be the best built fence doesn't mean it isn't one. Also, since it couldn't exactly be smaller than 1 pixel high, how else could he represent a wire without having to make it a bit thicker proportionally than those in the Outside?

Alternatively, maybe it is more of a cable spanning the posts than a wire.

True. Although, a cable that thick would sag unless it's under a lot of tension (and would have needed an anchor on the end of the fence). But, it could be steel tubing.


Good point. A cable wouldn't stick out that left end stiffly, so it is clearly neither a wire nor cable. Something stiff.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:01 pm UTC
by Caswallon
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:If it's a fence, it might be one like this:
Spoiler:
Image

That is a good point, more of a cattle fence then a wall fence.

Has anyone started scanning Madagascar near the avenue of the Baobobs for cattle fencing or wineries?

Where is the Madagascar XKCD contingent that can go looking for this magical area of the world? ;-)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:01 pm UTC
by kenmelken
Bah. Still no answers. Hmph. But I'll bet they talk in the next frame. They tend to get to the center of a frame in things like this before one of them asks a question about what they're seeing.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:04 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
FENCEONG:
Image

Guess we'll just have to Wait for it.

Image
Spoiler:
Vineyard.png

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:05 pm UTC
by mscha
Molpy alert! Center of the frame.
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:06 pm UTC
by Opiboble
BlitzGirl wrote:FENCEONG:
Image

Guess we'll just have to Wait for it.

Image
Spoiler:
Vineyard.png


haha, nice. and more fence/vines/hedge

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:06 pm UTC
by kenmelken
mscha wrote:Molpy alert! Center of the frame.
Spoiler:
Image


Fence-molpy!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:08 pm UTC
by StratPlayer
On my phone so a bit post-challenged, but: What the hey? A fence-vine???

Once again the OTC throws a curve ball at my expectations.

But it does look possible to limbo under it...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:09 pm UTC
by Opiboble
StratPlayer wrote:On my phone so a bit post-challenged, but: What the hey? A fence-vine???

Once again the OTC throws a curve ball at my expectations.

But it does look possible to limbo under it...

Maybe it is an old limbo training camp!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:09 pm UTC
by slinches
kenmelken wrote:
mscha wrote:Molpy alert! Center of the frame.
Spoiler:
Image


Fence-molpy!

I hope it doesn't eat all of the grapes.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:10 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Yay limbo! Unless there are smaller wires below the top one that are thinner than one pixel, and thus unseeable without ENHANCE-ment.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:13 pm UTC
by Opiboble
BlitzGirl wrote:Yay limbo! Unless there are smaller wires below the top one that are thinner than one pixel, and thus unseeable without ENHANCE-ment.


I think we would see evidence of the vines growing along them if they were present...

ETA: both me and blitzgril have the same post# of 523... we are connected!

eta2:
Spoiler:
Capture.PNG

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:18 pm UTC
by StratPlayer
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Yay limbo! Unless there are smaller wires below the top one that are thinner than one pixel, and thus unseeable without ENHANCE-ment.


I think we would see evidence of the vines growing along them if they were present...

ETA: both me and blitzgril have the same post# of 523... we are connected!


Pppfffttt... That's too easy. Try working "Forbidden Planet" and Canadian football teams into your connection to make it more interesting.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:20 pm UTC
by Opiboble
StratPlayer wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Yay limbo! Unless there are smaller wires below the top one that are thinner than one pixel, and thus unseeable without ENHANCE-ment.


I think we would see evidence of the vines growing along them if they were present...

ETA: both me and blitzgril have the same post# of 523... we are connected!


Pppfffttt... That's too easy. Try working "Forbidden Planet" and Canadian football teams into your connection to make it more interesting.

True, but for the record I was not aiming for this, I just randomly noticed. I will do better next time.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:23 pm UTC
by StratPlayer
Opiboble wrote:
StratPlayer wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Yay limbo! Unless there are smaller wires below the top one that are thinner than one pixel, and thus unseeable without ENHANCE-ment.


I think we would see evidence of the vines growing along them if they were present...

ETA: both me and blitzgril have the same post# of 523... we are connected!


Pppfffttt... That's too easy. Try working "Forbidden Planet" and Canadian football teams into your connection to make it more interesting.

True, but for the record I was not aiming for this, I just randomly noticed. I will do better next time.


That's OK. Random connected synchronicity is really the best kind. :D

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:26 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Wait a newpix...

Wine...fencing...berets...
Have we all forgotten the French Connection? Image

Never mind the baobabs. Everybody knows they want to be French.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 pm UTC
by azule
mscha wrote:
spamjam wrote:ದೊಡ್ಡ ಗಂಟೆಯಂಥ

This is ridiculous. 15 minutes after posting, I google your ong, and get 5 hits. 3 dictionaries, 1 India Times, and ... this thread.

Transliterates to DADDA GATTAYATHA. That appears to be random letters. All I can say is: ಠ_ಠ


Edit:
RobIrr wrote:
Spoiler:
azule wrote:
RobIrr wrote:Right... Time off to brush Tiddler's hair and get her to school...
Is that her name, or were you saying "toddler"?


Tiddler is just a pet name ... it translates usually to "small person" .. :D

Thanks. It does sound similar with a similar meaning. :)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:52 pm UTC
by ucim
Someguy945 wrote:Suppose an object moves by 1/3 of a Planck length on each of 10 separate occasions, all in the same direction. Each occasion is a few seconds apart or more.
What does it even mean for something to move one third of a planck length?

Kieryn wrote:I think scientific thinking generally goes along the lines of if something is undetectable or unmeasurable then it doesn't exist. Edit: A good analogue is newpix. We can talk about lengths of time shorter than one newpix, but in reality, we know that true time is quantized to newpix. Talking about newpix 134.34 just doesn't make sense... it's either 134 or 135, there is nothing in between.
Since at the level of QM, existence itself (which is really just a measure of a propensity to interact with something else) is probabilistic, to me it doesn't make sense to say something moved by that much. It makes more sense to say that the chance of interacting with it increased a just a tiny bit more in that direction compared to the opposite direction.

The OTC is quantized, but not stochastic. Reality is stochastic.

BlitzGirl wrote:Overgrown fence? Not sure if the vines are intentional. Unless appearing unintentional is their intent.
I don't see any glare.

Jose

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:53 pm UTC
by macraw83
Blitz progress: 563 of 697
The discovery of vegetation, NP 1172

Recent happenings:
LOTS of dialogue in the OTC
Awesome original music
Vatican Milliner's Perfect Customer Vatican Milliner's Perfect Customer


Today, I have been doing a bit more of this than usual, saving some time:
StratPlayer wrote:And I'm back, waitin' away once again...

Ketchup summary:

Spoiler:
Saw stuff -- liked it all...

Nonetheless, I have something to respond to:

My first sigcouragement! (or at least the first one I've seen...)
Spoiler:
Vytron wrote:Bringer of Baobabs, the Vindicator of Vegetation

Keep going partingLance! You're about to reach the BEST part of the thread!
Congrats on your 100th post macraw83, and BlitzGirlspeed!
BlitzGirl, RobIrr, tman2nd and other blitzers: You can do it!
And it was from Vytron, who is currently (in my Present) a fellow Blitzer, but who apparently has caught up to the Present Present! That may be the most encouraging news of all, since at one point he had a much more daunting Blitz than even I do.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:56 pm UTC
by Opiboble
ucim wrote:
Spoiler:
Someguy945 wrote:Suppose an object moves by 1/3 of a Planck length on each of 10 separate occasions, all in the same direction. Each occasion is a few seconds apart or more.
What does it even mean for something to move one third of a planck length?

Kieryn wrote:I think scientific thinking generally goes along the lines of if something is undetectable or unmeasurable then it doesn't exist. Edit: A good analogue is newpix. We can talk about lengths of time shorter than one newpix, but in reality, we know that true time is quantized to newpix. Talking about newpix 134.34 just doesn't make sense... it's either 134 or 135, there is nothing in between.
Since at the level of QM, existence itself (which is really just a measure of a propensity to interact with something else) is probabilistic, to me it doesn't make sense to say something moved by that much. It makes more sense to say that the chance of interacting with it increased a just a tiny bit more in that direction compared to the opposite direction.

The OTC is quantized, but not stochastic. Reality is stochastic.


BlitzGirl wrote:Overgrown fence? Not sure if the vines are intentional. Unless appearing unintentional is their intent.
I don't see any glare.

Jose

Someone must have rubbed babies on it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:00 pm UTC
by kenmelken
I wonder how lONG that fence is...

Image

EDIT: Appears he's noticed something. He didn't move, but she did.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:02 pm UTC
by yappobiscuits
Image
Ebonite wrote:Group poem! Given the current plot line of the OTC, maybe we should call this "Jabber-walky"?

    'Twas midday, and the molpymurs
    Did dig and tunnel in the ground
    All flighty were the raptorbirds,
    And the beesnakes did abound.
Next verse?

This is the kinda thing I was trying to come up with to go with my Molpy drawing, but gave up because my poetry skills weren't good enough to come up with anything... Looking forward to seeing where this goes!
fhorn wrote:
fatness wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:There are a lot of sub-threads in the OTT, but that is cool. I'm happy to chill when things are discussed in which I have no particular interest.

^^ this ^^

Truthfully, there are times when you all get way over my head but I consider it a mind expanding experience and then move on with what knowledge I managed to glean from it. Admittedly, my 56 year old brain is not as permeable as it used to be so that isn't as often as I'd like but I do keep reading.

However, [heresy] as slow as the OTC moves [/heresy] these distractions and side-trips are inevitable while we wait for itTM. As long as we keep being this civilized and it doesn't turn into cyber-stalking I see nothing wrong with them512.

512at least until the Internet Police show up and order us to evacuate the park.


Hear hear!!! Fatness, I feel the exact same way, particularly about the "you all get way over my head" part. I love to read it all, even (and maybe especially) when I have no clue; I'm taking it all in and, like you, trying to learn a bit here and there. (A long Time ago I did compare myself to the golden retriever in the back seat of the car, head out the window, tongue lolling in the wind, just happy to be along for the ride.)

SO glad I'm not the only one who often feels out of their depth in such an intelligence/knowledge-rich environment. But yeah, even so, that's part of the reason I love this place so much! You expand your own learning, AND this is one of the few places where you can be as super nerdy as you want without anyone judging you :D

kenmelken wrote:...Whatever solution is reached, the third verse basically can write itself, as the original already bears remarkable similarities to the story.
The original:
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


Proposed rewrite:
They took their dilgun'rang in hand:
Long time the sea answers they sought—
So rested they by the neat "Neat tree,"
And lay awhile in thought.

FTFY ;)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:05 pm UTC
by kenmelken
yappobiscuits wrote:Image
Spoiler:
Ebonite wrote:Group poem! Given the current plot line of the OTC, maybe we should call this "Jabber-walky"?

    'Twas midday, and the molpymurs
    Did dig and tunnel in the ground
    All flighty were the raptorbirds,
    And the beesnakes did abound.
Next verse?

This is the kinda thing I was trying to come up with to go with my Molpy drawing, but gave up because my poetry skills weren't good enough to come up with anything... Looking forward to seeing where this goes!
fhorn wrote:
fatness wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:There are a lot of sub-threads in the OTT, but that is cool. I'm happy to chill when things are discussed in which I have no particular interest.

^^ this ^^

Truthfully, there are times when you all get way over my head but I consider it a mind expanding experience and then move on with what knowledge I managed to glean from it. Admittedly, my 56 year old brain is not as permeable as it used to be so that isn't as often as I'd like but I do keep reading.

However, [heresy] as slow as the OTC moves [/heresy] these distractions and side-trips are inevitable while we wait for itTM. As long as we keep being this civilized and it doesn't turn into cyber-stalking I see nothing wrong with them512.

512at least until the Internet Police show up and order us to evacuate the park.


Hear hear!!! Fatness, I feel the exact same way, particularly about the "you all get way over my head" part. I love to read it all, even (and maybe especially) when I have no clue; I'm taking it all in and, like you, trying to learn a bit here and there. (A long Time ago I did compare myself to the golden retriever in the back seat of the car, head out the window, tongue lolling in the wind, just happy to be along for the ride.)

SO glad I'm not the only one who often feels out of their depth in such an intelligence/knowledge-rich environment. But yeah, even so, that's part of the reason I love this place so much! You expand your own learning, AND this is one of the few places where you can be as super nerdy as you want without anyone judging you :D

kenmelken wrote:...Whatever solution is reached, the third verse basically can write itself, as the original already bears remarkable similarities to the story.
The original:
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


Proposed rewrite:
They took their dilgun'rang in hand:
Long time the sea answers they sought—
So rested they by the neat "Neat tree,"
And lay awhile in thought.

FTFY ;)


Anyone know if a verdict was ever reached on the 3 competing second verses?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:08 pm UTC
by BigDaddy
La Petite unseen.

Megan when the dike fell.

The sandcastle when Cueball fell.

Megan and Cueball on the riverbank.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Been lurking the fora for a long time, seeing the creation of an awe inpsiring thread.

Sometimes it seems like it is impossible, but I have been trying to keep up with the flood of posts.

Did I try too hard and fail? I was really hoping the D&J at Tanagra would catch on earlier, almost done watching all of TNG on Netflix. Oh well, something to work on.

Looking forward to Time travelling with everbody.