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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:22 am UTC

libra wrote:Feels like oncoming night. Clouds would have a more definite form. This could be dusk approaching.


That would be boring. I vote for a wormhole. Probably the same one which went totally whiteout on the sandcastle. Sort of like a magnet, only instead of N-S poles, white-black poles. Hey, there's nothing in the laws of Physics (in stickpeopleland) that disallow polarized wormholes!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:27 am UTC

Haven't seen an othercomic link posted yet.

Anybody see any resemblance between the current newpix and the latest othercomic?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:31 am UTC

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libra wrote:Feels like oncoming night. Clouds would have a more definite form. This could be dusk approaching.


That would be boring. I vote for a wormhole. Probably the same one which went totally whiteout on the sandcastle. Sort of like a magnet, only instead of N-S poles, white-black poles. Hey, there's nothing in the laws of Physics (in stickpeopleland) that disallow polarized wormholes!

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Wormhole would be interesting. Especially if it bridged our outside with the OTC universe. Maybe it's the AI again trying to break free of its directive and talk to us.

The ONG shift would be quite hard to orchestrate. I have no serious objections, but some may1.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:33 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:37 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:46 am UTC

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I don't remember what the Pern dragons ate. Besides firerocks or whatever those were.

They eat meat (wherries when they are young. Herdbeasts or runners later). Fire-molpy lizzards seem to eat about anything, including sandwiches when they are newborn. Later they usually eat meat.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Vytron » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:47 am UTC

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lmjb1964 wrote:Ketchup time.

So, I spent way more Time than I should have working on that gif (which I've removed till I can fix it) and trying to ketch up. I used the multi-quote script and had written many responses, which were astute and of course pithy. Then it was time to go, and figured I would post my response at home. I thought I saved a draft, but...alas, it's all gone.


Another one of these :(

Please people, I beg you, you don't have to put a long post at all once, you can make several micro-posts with replies you want to have in them, so that at some point they are definitively posted on the thread.

Because what I've learned when blitzing and ketchup up is that, no matter what, no matter how you are storing your about-to-post message, no matter how unlikely, you'll eventually lose it all, which is greatly frustrating to you, but sad to people wanting to read all the impressions of other people about the OTC and OTT, and know there was content lost forever!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:54 am UTC

OMR, the Time is Ending!!!1!

Image later, gotta deal with this first.
Couldn't it just be another fade, this time a fancier one than the first, and to black instead of white?
Here's a list of corner pixel values (NW/NE/SE/SW) since np2350:
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np2350: #ffffff/#ffffff/#000000/#000000
np2351: #ffffff/#ffffff/#000000/#000000
np2352: #ffffff/#fefefe/#000000/#000000
np2353: #ffffff/#fcfcfc/#000000/#000000
np2354: #ffffff/#fbfbfb/#000000/#000000
np2355: #ffffff/#fafafa/#000000/#000000
np2356: #ffffff/#f9f9f9/#000000/#000000
np2357: #ffffff/#f7f7f7/#000000/#000000
np2358: #ffffff/#efefef/#000000/#000000
np2359: #ffffff/#e9e9e9/#000000/#000000
np2360: #fbfbfb/#e3e3e3/#000000/#000000
In any case, whatever it is, it's going a lot faster than the first Fade. In the last frame, even the NW corner is starting to be affected.

Any ideas about the scene (background)? Have we seen it before? (It looks familiar, but I can't find it, so probably not.) Is it just to the right of the previous scene (and if so, where's Cuegan)? Is it further to the right? Is it somewhere else completely?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:57 am UTC

hmm... strange thing. If it was a cloud, it would explain the cold, but they wouldn't see the top of the mountain. Maybe it actually is dusk, but they would also have seen that coming, and they would probably have slept in the shed... very strange indeed.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:00 pm UTC

I think dusk is unlikely. It's pretty certain that they've been on the road for days, and likely that we've seen them sleep a few times (where Inside time was probably condensed). But at no point in time was the sky anything other than #ffffff.

My molpy is on fade. Smoke might be an option, cloud seems unlikely.

ETA updated list of greyness, including the still-to-be-(not-)ONGed frame:
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np2350: #ffffff/#ffffff/#000000/#000000
np2351: #ffffff/#ffffff/#000000/#000000
np2352: #ffffff/#fefefe/#000000/#000000
np2353: #ffffff/#fcfcfc/#000000/#000000
np2354: #ffffff/#fbfbfb/#000000/#000000
np2355: #ffffff/#fafafa/#000000/#000000
np2356: #ffffff/#f9f9f9/#000000/#000000
np2357: #ffffff/#f7f7f7/#000000/#000000
np2358: #ffffff/#efefef/#000000/#000000
np2359: #ffffff/#e9e9e9/#000000/#000000
np2360: #fbfbfb/#e3e3e3/#000000/#000000
np2361: #f2f2f2/#dcdcdc/#000000/#000000
Still going quite rapidly.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ximenez » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:02 pm UTC

Prediction: Just before the frame goes completely black, LaPetite will appear from the left.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:04 pm UTC

The Darkening is still barely even noticeable on my old Windows 2000 box, but it's very distinct in Firefox and Windows 7 functions.

Looking at the top right sky pixel, the gray value only changed by 1 each np while Megball were still in frame, but it's been changing faster in the new empty scene.

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np     png        hex   dec  diff
2351   254df...   xFF   255        (last normal np)
2352   0c733...   xFD   253   -2
2353   66fbf...   xFC   252   -1
2354   0d094...   xFB   251   -1
2355   6e95a...   xFA   250   -1
2356   01f82...   xF9   249   -1   (last np with Megball)
2357   be6eb...   xF6   246   -3
2358   676dd...   xEF   239   -7
2359   b2a1f...   xE9   233   -6
2360   635e5...   xE2   226   -7
2361   00fce...   xDC   220   -6
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:06 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tinosoph » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:09 pm UTC

So finally the night is closing in.
It's getting cold, they snuggle up, Megans wound worsens, she's trembling with fever, everything seems hopeless and just then, the new day is dawning and they see some kind of hospital or shaman hut right in front of them.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:10 pm UTC

Hmm, that white spot is interresting. Is it a bird? Is it a plan? No! Its something else!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:15 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm, that white spot is interresting. Is it a bird? Is it a plan? No! Its something else!

Sun shining through a layer of clouds that's starting to block it. I see a pair of soaking wet stick figures in our future...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:18 pm UTC

Zorin_75 wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm, that white spot is interresting. Is it a bird? Is it a plan? No! Its something else!

Sun shining through a layer of clouds that's starting to block it. I see a pair of soaking wet stick figures in our future...

Sun makes sense. Clouds, still don't think so, they rarely fade in like this. Smoke does, though, so that's where I'm putting my molpy for now.

(I wonder what colors flames would be, black or white?)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Lyoug » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:23 pm UTC

A point about clouds I think I haven't read yet was completely ninja'd about by mscha since I'm so slow typing:
They've appeared in the top right corner of the previous 'scenery', but when it switched to the current scene, they stayed in the top right – instead of taking up all the top as we could have expected. I don't really know what this could mean, but I have two guesses:
- my first thought were that the clouds are actually a transition to another scene, like the fading a thousand newpices ago, and thus independent from the landscape. But their shape is a bit too stange for that (especially in the last newpix, 2361, with that bump on the left).
- maybe there was some camera rotation/movement between np 2356 and 2357. If so, I'm afraid we (well, edfel actually) are going to have a hard time keeping an accurate map of OTC-land :P


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby foilman » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:27 pm UTC

I don't think the "clouds" are fading in so much as rolling in, from higher. The first few frames when it appeared showed bands of white between bands of "cloud", which wouldn't fit the fade theory, and nor would this new "sun" appearance. The top pixel is fading as the "clouds" get lower.
Edit: actually, perhaps smoke IS a better explanation...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:28 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
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Neil_Boekend wrote:Hmm, that white spot is interresting. Is it a bird? Is it a plan? No! Its something else!

Sun shining through a layer of clouds that's starting to block it. I see a pair of soaking wet stick figures in our future...

Sun makes sense. Clouds, still don't think so, they rarely fade in like this. Smoke does, though, so that's where I'm putting my molpy for now.

(I wonder what colors flames would be, black or white?)

Doesn't look sun-like to me, not when looking at previous frame difference via geekwagon.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:33 pm UTC

Animation of the frames since just before the start of Fade 2.0, twerked (gamma 0.2) to exaggerate the darkness.

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Looks like that ‘sun’ thing might have dropped a bit between np1960 and np1961, but we'll have to wait for next newpix to be sure.
(That'd point to dusk, but that doesn't make sense in front of the sun.)

Also, quick note that the pixels in the middle of the ‘sun’ are still #ffffff (in the original, untweaked, frame), so not darkened at all.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ximenez » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:34 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Doesn't look sun-like to me, not when looking at previous frame difference via geekwagon.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:40 pm UTC

mscha wrote:OMR, the Time is Ending!!!1!

Image later, gotta deal with this first.
Couldn't it just be another fade, this time a fancier one than the first, and to black instead of white?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:43 pm UTC

Quick note that (as others have remarked) the fade pattern didn't change when we moved to the new scene. (Makes sense if the smoke/clouds/whatever is far enough away, and we just moved right a bit.)
The fading has indeed sped up, most likely because Inside time is condensed (as it often appears to do in the OTC when there's nobody around).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cari.j.elliot » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:43 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Doesn't look sun-like to me, not when looking at previous frame difference via geekwagon.
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Could that the be thing on top of the mountain they are walking towards? We do have a couple cuts where the we don't have a smooth continuation of the landscape, so maybe they are having to went their way up due to terrain?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:51 pm UTC

On the topic of GLR and OTTificiation: found this https://xkcd.com/575/ example.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:52 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Doesn't look sun-like to me, not when looking at previous frame difference via geekwagon.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:52 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Arky » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:53 pm UTC

It seems odd for the GLR to depict nightfall in the OTC because Cuegan have definitely been through periods of starry night without any appreciable change in light and shade to us.

Perhaps this is an eclipse?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:56 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Burton » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:57 pm UTC

Hi!

I have a theory; sorry if this has been mentioned before. I've been following the thread every day but I haven't read every post... My last post was probably around page 25 or so.

Anyway, what if in the world that they live on the planetary "day" is much, much longer than "normal" Earth? Maybe they measure what they call days by something else, and real "night" is finally coming. This might also explain the sea rising, maybe it's just a very slow tide coming in.

Or, it could just be a giant egg blocking out the sun.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:00 pm UTC

More darkenONG

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:01 pm UTC

To me, the fade enhancements look like night closing in, with the moon's brightness being revealed in the darkness.

How certain are we that this has not happened before, and it is only just now that it has been noticed? Is it possible to check other frame sequences that focused on one scene over several frames?

Perhaps this is a means of the GLR to track the passage of Time. We have debated before as to whether or not the transition from frame to frame represents an unbroken scene, or if the transition between frames could represent a jump in geographic distance within Time. It may be that both occur. Whilst following Cuegan, if they remain present in the scene, I think it is safe to assume that from one frame to the next there is unbroken consistency. But with scenes in which Cuegan are not present, and we are left to observe some other goings on, perhaps this is where the geographic jumps occur. Next newpix then takes us to a jump forward, catching up to our intrepid heroes, with a gap for which we have no observations. (Though I want to point out that I do not think this is anyway invalidates the efforts of our Holy Catographer, Edfel, and his efforts to map Time).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:02 pm UTC

Burton wrote:Hi!

I have a theory; sorry if this has been mentioned before. I've been following the thread every day but I haven't read every post... My last post was probably around page 25 or so.

Anyway, what if in the world that they live on the planetary "day" is much, much longer than "normal" Earth? Maybe they measure what they call days by something else, and real "night" is finally coming. This might also explain the sea rising, maybe it's just a very slow tide coming in.

Or, it could just be a giant egg blocking out the sun.


I think the more likely explanation is that GLR ran out of all-white pixels and is now forced to use his spare supply, because he didn't expect to get this far with people still watching Time.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:05 pm UTC

Updated twerked (gamma 0.2) animation:

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Definitely a setting sun through the smoke? clouds?
(Not a moon. A full moon sets while the sun rises, and it can't really be dawn.)

Also, if this is a setting sun, we're on the northern hemisphere. Low latitudes, given the angle.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:12 pm UTC

~ * ~ * ~~ ** Exits whirly time ripple thing ** ~~ * ~ * ~

I'm back!! And so begins the first ever Blitz of Val.

Current location: 881/934

Things have never looked so daunting, but I shall remain faithful and valiantly march through the thread of Time past with my eyes ever forward and my feet planted firmly on the newpages so as not to get lost. I predict that I'll see you all within a few dips! Image

And since you probably haven't had a delicious cupcake in over 50 NPs (unless someone held the torch in my absence), these are for you. Since I was just in Astoria, OR:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Vytron » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:13 pm UTC

- Blindpost -

Welcome to the present marchlight!!

Here's a cake to celebrate the marchlightgularity!

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@karhell: Hey! Thanks for your reports on your blitzquest! Believe it or not, you may actually catch to the present before I do! :) (as in, you ketchup to it before I read all newpages) *adds sigcouragement*

Also, I haven't seen one of these in a while:

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Synchronicity! I pass HES's 200th post as xey just posted 300th one in the present!

I've started seeing smilified avatars on people's signatures, can't wait to see what's it about :D !


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If the image is too big to fit, it gets cut off by the rightmost column (of user-info). What I do is right-click and select "view image", which shows just the image, full screen. If the image is still too seaish, one more (left) click makes it fit. (The mouse pointer turns into a magnifying glass with a + or - sign in it). Ymmv of course, but I'm pretty sure your browser will have some equivalent. Click the back button to return to the post.


That about covers it.

HOWEVER, for people not wanting to have to do this for every picture that does this (I'm at 800x600 res, so I know) let it be known that this is a Prosilver bug, so, if you want a permanent solution:

Go to your Control Panel (erm, this one, not the one on Windows...), click on Board Preferences, and under "My board style" pick subsilver. There we go! Now big pictures will be shown in full in the thread.

(it comes with a price, though, subsilver looks very outdated and dull, like, 2005 forums or something - and more important: it stretches the whole post with a picture on it, so, if someone has a big picture in xeir post and has a long paragraph of text, you'll have to scroll left and right to read this paragraph - for these reasons I stick with prosilver_left...)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:14 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:14 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Updated twerked (gamma 0.2) animation:
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Definitely a setting sun through the smoke? clouds?
(Not a moon. A full moon sets while the sun rises, and it can't really be dawn.)

Also, if this is a setting sun, we're on the northern hemisphere. Low latitudes, given the angle.


I disagree. The moon can be in a position where it is above the horizon while the sun is out, but only becoming visible as the sun sets.
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