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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:35 pm UTC
by ucim
Lawsome wrote:I want to use this topic. Anyone care to give me a brief idea of the culture that has developed here?
Welcome to the One True Thread! I see you've discovered the wiki... yes, there is a lot (it even makes me dizzy, and I've been reading since the beginning of Time). Jump right in, we don't bite! Pretty soon you'll be a part of the culture that is being developed here.

BlitzGirl wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:DING
eh? :shock:
*waits for the -DONG*

The witch is dead! The wicked witch is dead!

eta... hmmm. Page Pope at a post count of 666. I wonder what that means!

Jose

Re: Blind Spanish

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:41 pm UTC
by Ximenez
azule wrote:I don't know the language much either, so I was actually looking for funny nonsense. I think I mightn't have been clear. Especially look at you, Ximenez. :P

I'm half guilty. I started quoting the surrealists, but then got caught in reason. The story of my life.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:41 pm UTC
by Opiboble
ucim wrote:
Lawsome wrote:I want to use this topic. Anyone care to give me a brief idea of the culture that has developed here?
Welcome to the One True Thread! I see you've discovered the wiki... yes, there is a lot (it even makes me dizzy, and I've been reading since the beginning of Time). Jump right in, we don't bite! Pretty soon you'll be a part of the culture that is being developed here.

BlitzGirl wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote:DING
eh? :shock:
*waits for the -DONG*

The witch is dead! The wicked witch is dead!

eta... hmmm. Page Pope at a post count of 666. I wonder what that means!

Jose

Sign of the anti-Randall!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:44 pm UTC
by edfel
Hey! I don't think this kind of manip has been done before, so here it is !
Image
(each pixel has the max.luminosity over frames 2395-2418)
mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.

redundant spoiler
Spoiler:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:47 pm UTC
by Earthling on Mars
Someguy945 wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Yay, cupcakes!

Earthling on Mars wrote:DING
Spoiler:
Image

eh? :shock:
*waits for the -DONG*

Hmm. Perhaps I should test this...

The River is small!


The hedgehog is really neat!

(Yeah, something's broken. I think Earthling on Mars tore open the Time-Thread Continuum)


Oh dear. Oh dear. I've broken Time. Oh dear. And I just wanted some chocolate and M&Ms! :(

BlitzGirl wrote:Image Yay, Time fanart:
Spoiler:
Image


Nice! :) Megball look rather out of place there, which is good since they look very out of place in the OTC these days too.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:51 pm UTC
by mscha
edfel wrote:mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...

Me neither. Image
Well, the animation part is semi-automated by now, especially once I've figured out the right settings for a certain molpy or something, generating the next one a few newpix later only takes a minute.
But the main ingredient is simply spending way too much time here. I think my TV consumption has dropped by 80% or more since the beginning of Time, for instance.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:55 pm UTC
by rvloon
mscha wrote: I think my TV consumption has dropped by 80% or more since the beginning of Time, for instance.


And that's a bad thing? I would dare to say that all this experience might even be used on your resume. After Time has ended, in apparently November 15013.

Ronald

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:59 pm UTC
by higgs-boson
What I don't understand here: Why is the sky near the horizon not as dark as above?
Hum. I've been in the dark a lot. Actually, I like darkness.
Normally, I'd argue somewhere along the lines "light pollution".

But not in a ~ 14'000 A.D. wilderness.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:10 pm UTC
by mscha
TONGANYIKANS...
Image

-- posted by newpixbot

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:11 pm UTC
by Wildhound
higgs-boson wrote:What I don't understand here: Why is the sky near the horizon not as dark as above?
Hum. I've been in the dark a lot. Actually, I like darkness.
Normally, I'd argue somewhere along the lines "light pollution".

But not in a ~ 14'000 A.D. wilderness.


It depends on where they are and the time of year. Where I am, for example (53.3┬░N) astronomical twilight never ends at this time of year. As a result, there's always a brighter hue on the horizon through the night.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:19 pm UTC
by thirds
edfel wrote:Hey! I don't think this kind of manip has been done before, so here it is !
Image
(each pixel has the max.luminosity over frames 2395-2418)
mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.

redundant spoiler
Spoiler:
out.png

Very nice. I've been trying to use these arcs to project where polaris is, but so far nothing is lining up right, the mid-point is all over the place.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:20 pm UTC
by Swein
Checking out from Time and the OTT for a while, for a trip to Russia in the heretical world. I dread the amount of Ketchup I have to devour upon my return (not that found of ketchup - esp. this kind :P )
Anyway my thoughts will be with Cueball and his lonely task through the night on the world known as ....? (we really should give it a name while waiting for a definite identification :wink: )
Keep up the good wait folks!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:22 pm UTC
by Wildhound
Swein wrote:Anyway my thoughts will be with Cueball and his lonely task through the night on the world known as ....? (we really should give it a name while waiting for a definite identification :wink: )


My internal monologue has been referring to it as Newpixia for some reason.

And our star looks very different today

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:25 pm UTC
by AluisioASG
Blindpost from NP964.
BlitzGirl wrote:Image Yay, Time fanart:
Spoiler:
Image


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! THEIR FACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

PS. Guess which song I'm listening to right now?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:30 pm UTC
by ggh
Eutychus wrote:
Marsh'n wrote:
Eutychus wrote:Finally, to add to the music collection, can I suggest What a wonderful world? Or possibly Israel Kamakawiwo╩╗ole's mashup of it with Somewhere over the rainbow?


Well, Eutychus, I hope this meets your expectations. My first commissioned OTTificaparotimeodyfilk. Original song link is above in quote. Spoilered because this is really really 1. Semi-canonical footnotes. I'd consider recording it but (a) I don't know where to get the music by itself (b) I would sound awful a capella and (c) Yappo is obviously the acclaimed songmaster here. Hint hint...

"Wowtreeful World"
Spoiler:
.... Oooo, oooo, oooo, oooo

Somewhere up on the mountain
Where they climb
Are the newpix you lONGed for
Once in the Thread of Time ...Time Oh

Somewhere nearer the big sea
Flutterbees fly
And the newpix you lONGed for
Nights really do come too ooo oooo

Tonix predix upon a star, keep
Hoping leopardmolp are far behind xe
Where rivers run and wowfall drops
High above the castle tops
That's where you'll find xe oh

Out there, just past the grapevines
Squirpy! "Hi!"
And the newpix you care for,
Oh why, oh why can't I?0 iiii

Well we see trees of wow7 and
Priklemolpies11 too
We watch and wait for Meg and for Cue
And we think to ourselves
What a Wowtreeful world

Well we see seas1 of black
And we see stars of white
And the brightness of day
We like the night
And we think to ourselves
What a Wowtreeful world

The stars of the galaxy
So pretty in the sky
And all of the avatars of people Waiting by
See friends making hats saying
"How do you do?"
They're really sayin', "We, we love all you!"

We hear chickmolpy cry
And we watch it fed
There's so much more in GLRandall's head
And we think to ourselves
What a Wowtreeful world

Oh, Stellarium upon the stars
Predicting where the Megball are, reminds me
Where flaming melts with "Molpy ups!"
And semencoffeesea in cups2
That's where you'll find me

Oh, somewhere up on the mountain
Way up high
And the Time that we Wait for
Why oh why can't I... iii

Ooooo,oooo,ooooo,ooooo,oooo,oooo......

0: Wait For It
1: big, rising
2: small, I hope
7: wow
11: a little prickly, really neat
GL: Good Lord!


Edit to reposition end-spoiler.


OK well awaiting the pros, here is my attempt in the stone-age recording conditions I have here. Please bear in mind the lousy equipment and the vertical learning curve for a) turning this into something uploadable for YouTube b) uploading it.


Beautiful!

Now here, I am floating on a bucket

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:31 pm UTC
by AluisioASG
I was wondering... what-if the moon is already below the horizon, instead of above, as Kieryn was expecting?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:38 pm UTC
by ucim
edfel wrote:mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.
I'll second that. I started working on a different star manip and it is taking forever. You rock!

higgs-boson wrote:What I don't understand here: Why is the sky near the horizon not as dark as above?
To make the horizon evident? Because the horizon is closer to the sun than the zenith?

Jose

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:44 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Someguy945 wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:The River is small!

The hedgehog is really neat!

(Yeah, something's broken. I think Earthling on Mars tore open the Time-Thread Continuum)

Oh no. :shock: That's what happens when you ING when you should have ONGed!

mscha wrote:ETA: okay, okay,
The sea is big!

Image That's a relief.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:58 pm UTC
by NoMouse
For some reason, the sky-stitching stopped working when I tried to add another 4 newpixes. We need some NASA technology here.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:04 pm UTC
by SBN
Wildhound wrote:
Swein wrote:Anyway my thoughts will be with Cueball and his lonely task through the night on the world known as ....? (we really should give it a name while waiting for a definite identification :wink: )


My internal monologue has been referring to it as Newpixia for some reason.


NoMouse wrote:Time. The final frontier. These are the voyages of Cueball and Megan. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.


Boldligo ?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:05 pm UTC
by poxic
Boldigonia.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:05 pm UTC
by Angelastic
-DONG!))

Image

(There were a couple of unclosed parentheses in the last few NP too.)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:11 pm UTC
by Wildhound
I fell really bad for Cueball :(

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:19 pm UTC
by HES
Wildhound wrote:I fell really bad for Cueball :(

Why? He gets to enjoy a beautiful night sky. Plus, (I assume) he knows where in the world he is, so he has more answers than we do...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:24 pm UTC
by Wildhound
HES wrote:
Wildhound wrote:I fell really bad for Cueball :(

Why? He gets to enjoy a beautiful night sky. Plus, (I assume) he knows where in the world he is, so he has more answers than we do...


Hah! Valid points.

I think the first hour or so might have been enjoyable, but at this stage he is probably struggling to stay awake, quite lonely, and worried about Megan.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:28 pm UTC
by libra
And now to coma.

When I decoma, I wonder if it will still be night for Cueball?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:30 pm UTC
by ggh
ggh wrote:
patzer wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:I edited a couple pages on the wiki, in case anyone's interested to know. Tarot cards and newpixbot. Tarot cards is wanting of some actual tarot cards as of now ;)

ggh had added some tarot cards to the wiki, then removed them without explanation. I readded them. There's still a lot of work to be done, however.

Just getting back now, but I was working on a page similar to the buffy hat page with pics, dates, notes, etc. It wasn't ready to be live, but I didn't see any sort of sandbox area to work in, so I just copied the whole thing to a text editor and deleted it 'til I have time to work on it again. I can't see what on there now because I'm at a browser that can't handle it, but I'm sure it's great, and I'll just leave it in your capable hands. :)

Huh. Now I've seen the page, and it looks like what I had, and had hidden because it contains random placeholders and incorrect information. :/

I'll refrain from editing it, because I don't want to get into a wiki-editing battle with anyone, but I would like to retract my endorsement. :P

--------

BlitzGirl! Love your fanart - such a nice mood!

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Wildhound wrote:
HES wrote:
Wildhound wrote:I fell really bad for Cueball :(

Why? He gets to enjoy a beautiful night sky. Plus, (I assume) he knows where in the world he is, so he has more answers than we do...


Hah! Valid points.

I think the first hour or so might have been enjoyable, but at this stage he is probably struggling to stay awake, quite lonely, and worried about Megan.

Yes, and maybe even a bit afraid, as I would think he should be. I am surprised he hasn't gotten up at all.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:44 pm UTC
by Wildhound
ggh wrote:Yes, and maybe even a bit afraid, as I would think he should be. I am surprised he hasn't gotten up at all.


Yes, he seems to be looking around constantly, most likely keeping vigilant for raptorcatpys. Perhaps he is comforted by that irrational sense of security one gets from curling up in one spot, like a child hiding under the blankets from a monster under the bed.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:00 am UTC
by mscha
BoredONG...
Image

I'm ready for something to happen now...

ETA: no detectable molpy activity, since our friend, the regularly sized molpy, left.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:04 am UTC
by Angelastic
mscha wrote:I'm ready for something to happen now...

Wait for it.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:16 am UTC
by ggh
Angelastic wrote:
mscha wrote:I'm ready for something to happen now...

Wait for it.

Might take the wee one for a hike along the Hutt River while I'm waiting.

Wildhound, you are on the brink - advance congrats on your 100th post!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:29 am UTC
by Rule110
thirds wrote:
edfel wrote:Hey! I don't think this kind of manip has been done before, so here it is !
Image
(each pixel has the max.luminosity over frames 2395-2418)
mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.

redundant spoiler
Spoiler:
out.png

Very nice. I've been trying to use these arcs to project where polaris is, but so far nothing is lining up right, the mid-point is all over the place.


Very good. That tells us something important in a slightly meta way. If Randall had simply drawn a starry sky image and was rotating it for each frame, all the arcs would be concentric. That they're not means it's overwhelmingly likely that the sky is being rendered algorithmically. (The alternative would be that he is repositioning each star by hand!) That rendering, which must project a model of (at least a portion of) the celestial sphere into a flat frame, must introduce distortion somewhere. It's a matter of deciding what kind of distortion is acceptable, and choosing the projection accordingly. For example, we don't see the distances a given star moves starting out shorter at the top of the frame due to foreshortening, which we would see in (for example) a wide angle camera image of the night sky with the camera held horizontal.

I note that a little bit to the left of the sun's path, some of the star paths are almost straight lines. Farther left still, they appear to bend the other way. I think it's likely that in this projection, a star whose path comes out as a perfectly straight line is on the celestial equator. (That's simply a sensible, to the point of being nearly necessary, feature for such a projection to have.) Its path will therefore cross the true horizon (which the actual silhouette of the landscape might be higher or lower than at any given point) at due west.

If that's true, it tells us that:

- We are looking slightly north of west.
- The sun set slightly to the north of west.
- It's mid spring.
- We are in the northern hemisphere at latitude 39.5, the angle of the straight-line star path.
- The celestial equator is way out of place.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:37 am UTC
by taixzo
edfel wrote:If that's true, it tells us that:

- We are looking slightly north of west.
- The sun set slightly to the north of west.
- It's mid spring.
- We are in the northern hemisphere at latitude 39.5, the angle of the straight-line star path.


Good so far...

edfel wrote:- The celestial equator is way out of place.


I don't like this one. Randall is an astrophysicist and a connoisseur of map projections; why would he make an error like that?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:42 am UTC
by Ray Kremer
Fell behind again. Blindposting from 930. Please forgive if any comments are redundant to ones made between then and now.

I just got done reading about people who have trouble with left and right. Maybe you folks have never heard of the simple mnemonic that's I've always seen taught to children. Put up both your hands like this:
(Spoiled because the only workable photo google images found for me is quite sea-ish.)
Spoiler:
Image

The hand with a proper L is left, and the hand with a backwards L is not.

I still sometimes have to think about east vs west, but I always remember that a compass rose with north at the top spells "WE".

Flotter wrote:
HES wrote:Is it me or is the lettering weird on the "I'll"?

No, you're right. The "I" in "I'll" is serif, while the other "I"s are sans-serif.

I don't recall who or where, but I read from some comic-making-type person that with all-caps lettering the capital I with the crossbars is used to make the pronoun "I" stand out. I'm not sure if a reason for it beyond that was even stated, maybe it's just a tradition thing.

buffygirl wrote:The reason for the rising sea turns out to be because their planet is teeny like the one from The Little Prince (but in this case just LaPetite) and that ship from that Japanimation cartoon in the 70's where they went through space in a ocean-style ship and had 365 days to accomplish their mission, has landed in it (the sea).

I believe you are referring to Space Battleship Yamato aka Star Blazers.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:44 am UTC
by ttscp
Has anyone else noticed that geekwagon appears to be using a more sophisticated difference filter? Here's a sample.

http://geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190/?frame=2402&framediff=2401I

The milky way would have been all green and red in the previous filter.

Deplicator hasn't signed on since s/he posted the link to geekwagon, but if you are paying attention, Deplicator, thanks, this is just what I was wishing for.

IWhen I used an image tag for this, it didn't resolve. Well, duh, it's not an image, but a web page. You'll just have to follow the link to see what I mean.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:55 am UTC
by BytEfLUSh
Ahh.. Nvm :)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:57 am UTC
by edo
thirds wrote:
edfel wrote:Hey! I don't think this kind of manip has been done before, so here it is !
Image
(each pixel has the max.luminosity over frames 2395-2418)
mscha, I don't know how you do all your manips and still keep so much on track with the thread...doing this is so time consuming.

redundant spoiler
Spoiler:
out.png

Very nice. I've been trying to use these arcs to project where polaris is, but so far nothing is lining up right, the mid-point is all over the place.

Edfel: awesome. Exactly what we needed
Thirds, et al:
What we need to do is cycle through the millenia looking at Sagittarius until the celestial equator aligns with the straight line coming from the upper left corner. Then cycle through the months until the sun is in Lybra
We need jupiter or Mars to complete the match
(I'm on my phone right now so I can't)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:01 am UTC
by Wildhound
ggh wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
mscha wrote:I'm ready for something to happen now...

Wait for it.

Might take the wee one for a hike along the Hutt River while I'm waiting.

Wildhound, you are on the brink - advance congrats on your 100th post!


Huzzah!

I figured I should have something exciting to say for this occasion, so I went away and quickly wrote a Java program of my own to show the differences between any two frames of the OTC. And it works!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:02 am UTC
by mscha
Still nothONG happening...
Image

Might as well go to coma.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:03 am UTC
by mscha
Happy 100th, Wildhound!
Have some cake.
Spoiler:
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