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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:46 pm UTC
by udscbt
I noticed that Randall hasn't published a new "What if?" today, could it be that the questions sent by Pope Helper scared him so much to force him to seek refuge in a bunker?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:50 pm UTC
by kryton
udscbt wrote:I noticed that Randall hasn't published a new "What if?" today, could it be that the questions sent by Pope Helper scared him so much to force him to seek refuge in a bunker?

they seem to get posted late in the evening last few weeks.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:51 pm UTC
by Helper
udscbt wrote:I noticed that Randall hasn't published a new "What if?" today, could it be that the questions sent by Pope Helper scared him so much to force him to seek refuge in a bunker?

Somebody's negative! No, instead, it's delayed because he's too busy answering every question. Yes, yes, that's it...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:54 pm UTC
by Eliram
Red Hal wrote:They've moved the Trebuchet to make room for this. (please let it be true)

Spoiler:
time.gif


Edit: I tried to get it to scale, but feel it may be a little small. I had to guess based on cueball's head diameter.

I'll definitely wait for THAT.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:56 pm UTC
by Smithers
(18 TimeFrames of outsider stuff)
(8 NewPages of catchup)
And I'm back!
StratPlayer wrote:
Exodies wrote:
StratPlayer wrote:
Exodies wrote:It has! Didn't think of that. Thanks.


When you're surrounded by neurotic, obsessive-compulsive, detail-oriented, sleep-deprived Timewaiters bored in between newpix, you'll get a lot of grammar-pouncing...

Like maybe noticing that your sig should be "Where to, Guv?" if "guv" is a proper noun (thus capitalized). But, it's perfectly fine if "guv" is a verb. In the first case, you're asking for information on where to take the Guv, in the second, you're looking for a location to do the guvving...


The comma was left out deliberately; capitalising the g was not considered; perhaps it should have been spelt gov, but I wanted to influence the pronunciation; I'm still undecided about the question mark.


I like the ambiguity.

And actually, in most cases, 'guv'' would probably be more of a generic pronoun like 'mister' or 'buddy', so it wouldn't need the capitalization.

But in this Time thread, I do wonder if it should be 'When to guv?" And of course, the guv would answer, "Wait for it."

Subtleties in grammar can be rather fun. What a difference the comma makes in "Helping your uncle Jack, off his horse" and "Let's eat, Grandma".
Cf. http://xkcd.com/326/. Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."
Mr Moriaty wrote:Is the Higgs-Pope the particle that gives Mass?

Nice!
Helper wrote:As Pope, I do solemnly appoint yee 'Apostolic Vistitator', Holiest of Holy Fun-Havers.
I'm not sure what that is, but I don't see anything wrong with handing out various jobs!

As I can't be a cardinal due to reviving a long-dead account for this thread instead of creating one, may I be an ordinal instead?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:59 pm UTC
by speising
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:01 pm UTC
by Smithers
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.
Edit: Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:02 pm UTC
by Helper
Smithers wrote:As I can't be a cardinal due to reviving a long-dead account for this thread instead of creating one, may I be an ordinal instead?

Sorry, I don't believe in ordinals. You could be a cordial, though.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:02 pm UTC
by Helper
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:04 pm UTC
by Smithers
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:08 pm UTC
by Helper
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:09 pm UTC
by Smithers
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:15 pm UTC
by Helper
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:18 pm UTC
by enumerated powers
...and look what showed up in the mail today...

Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:21 pm UTC
by speising
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:23 pm UTC
by Helper
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Ambigous? What do you mean? Don't you speak commas aloud? ...I suppose that explains all of the weird looks...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:23 pm UTC
by Smithers
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:<lots of nesting>
Smithers wrote:Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

</lots of nesting>
As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:27 pm UTC
by speising
Helper wrote:
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Ambigous? What do you mean? Don't you speak commas aloud? ...I suppose that explains all of the weird looks...


yes, i do. a comma is spoken similar to "..."

edit: oh, i read "do" instead of "don't"

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:31 pm UTC
by PinkShinyRose
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Ambigous? What do you mean? Don't you speak commas aloud? ...I suppose that explains all of the weird looks...


yes, i do. a comma is spoken similar to "..."

edit: oh, i read "do" instead of "don't"


That should get you many unpleasant reactions, reading do instead of don't.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:32 pm UTC
by Helper
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Ambigous? What do you mean? Don't you speak commas aloud? ...I suppose that explains all of the weird looks...


yes, i do. a comma is spoken similar to "..."

edit: oh, i read "do" instead of "don't"

Well, I don't know what you're talking about, but I actually say the word 'comma' :D

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:49 pm UTC
by mybrainhurts
Helper wrote:
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
speising wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
Helper wrote:
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.

To be fair, that a grammatical error, not ambiguity.

This is also true of the other examples.

I don't think so (although I could be wrong)... "Let's eat, Grandma" targets grandma and requests to begin eating (non-grandma) food. "Let's eat Grandma" is a request to eat grandma. They're both grammatically valid.

As are "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex" and "I'd rather cuddle than have sex".

But that requires a change to the word 'then/than,' rather than just a comma change.


that's actually what i meant. this example works only in speech, where commas are ambiguous at best, anyway.

Ambigous? What do you mean? Don't you speak commas aloud? ...I suppose that explains all of the weird looks...


yes, i do. a comma is spoken similar to "..."

edit: oh, i read "do" instead of "don't"

Well, I don't know what you're talking about, but I actually say the word 'comma' :D

So you probably also do quotation marks with your fingers? :lol:
OK, at least that's (almost) a standard Pope gesture... :mrgreen:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:53 pm UTC
by StratPlayer
Helper wrote: ... snipped...
Well, I don't know what you're talking about, but I actually say the word 'comma' :D


Makes sense to me. After spending the last week in here, I now say "FULL STOP FULL STOP" after ever sentence where's there's a period, especially when ordering my non-inseminated, light-babied coffee...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:54 pm UTC
by Helper
mybrainhurts wrote:So you probably also do quotation marks with your fingers? :lol:
OK, at least that's (almost) a standard Pope gesture... :mrgreen:

Well obviously! Dot and all! (Don't ask where the dot comes from...)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:00 pm UTC
by AionArap
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:06 pm UTC
by Stealth Beige
mybrainhurts wrote:
<snip>

So you probably also do quotation marks with your fingers? :lol:
OK, at least that's (almost) a standard Pope gesture... :mrgreen:


Y'all remind me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF4qii8S3gw

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:11 pm UTC
by Smithers
AionArap wrote:Image

Quite a lot of straight horizontal edges there. He will probably be crenellating that for at least half a dozen timeframes.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:14 pm UTC
by bigcrag92
Smithers wrote:
AionArap wrote:Image

Quite a lot of straight horizontal edges there. He will probably be crenellating that for at least half a dozen timeframes.

I think he's trying to make it minecraft worthy

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:18 pm UTC
by AionArap
bigcrag92 wrote:
Smithers wrote:
AionArap wrote:Image

Quite a lot of straight horizontal edges there. He will probably be crenellating that for at least half a dozen timeframes.

I think he's trying to make it minecraft worthy


My thoughts exactly, probably getting it ready for the new Minecraft 2.0 release.

EDIT: Added link.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:19 pm UTC
by Tass
Smithers wrote:
speising wrote:
Smithers wrote:Also of course, the old favourite, "I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."


how could that be read any other way? "I'd rather cuddle then have sex." is just grammatically wrong, without any other meaning.

Try reading 'than' in place of 'then'.


The point is there is not two meanings since the one with then is grammatically incorrect.

I disagree though. It may not be entirely grammatically correct, but a sentence with "I'd rather" without a "than" following, would generally be understood as if followed by "than what was just suggested" in everyday language. It misses a comma though.

"Wanna watch a movie?"
"I'd rather cuddle, then have sex."

Whereas "I'd rather cuddle than have sex" is a standalone statement.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:23 pm UTC
by Godsguy
bigcrag92 wrote:
Smithers wrote:
AionArap wrote:Image

Quite a lot of straight horizontal edges there. He will probably be crenellating that for at least half a dozen timeframes.

I think he's trying to make it minecraft worthy


That was actually my first thought as well - Very minecrafty

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:28 pm UTC
by chem1190c
Tetris anyone?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:29 pm UTC
by Exodies
Helper wrote:
mybrainhurts wrote:So you probably also do quotation marks with your fingers? :lol:
OK, at least that's (almost) a standard Pope gesture... :mrgreen:

Well obviously! Dot and all! (Don't ask where the dot comes from...)

I know I shouldn't ask, but this has got me stumped. Where does the dot come from?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:32 pm UTC
by Helper
Exodies wrote:
Helper wrote:
mybrainhurts wrote:So you probably also do quotation marks with your fingers? :lol:
OK, at least that's (almost) a standard Pope gesture... :mrgreen:

Well obviously! Dot and all! (Don't ask where the dot comes from...)

I know I shouldn't ask, but this has got me stumped. Where does the dot come from?

I-I don't know, myself.... Sounds gruesome though.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:33 pm UTC
by PinkShinyRose
chem1190c wrote:Tetris anyone?


I think the tetris block should not have the edge on the right...

EDIT: come to think of it, there is no:
**##
###
block in tetris... or do you see it as a
**#**
### block?

EDIT2: stupid space removal... if I didn't want them, I would not write them...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:37 pm UTC
by Helper
PinkShinyRose wrote:
chem1190c wrote:Tetris anyone?


I think the tetris block should not have the edge on the right...

EDIT: come to think of it, there is no:
##
###
block in tetris... or do you see it as a
#
### block?

I see a:
01100
11222

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:39 pm UTC
by azule
hamjudo wrote:If we scale up the stream to be a river, the pond to be a body of water large enough for swimming, and add a beach with sand, it could be the setting for this comic.

Dude, if we scale it all down instead, then the stick figures are the size of ants [which approximates a stick figure figure] and the lakes and rivers could be simple streams and puddles. Small weather changes would greatly influence their world, such as rising water level for no apparent reason. Lastly, this would explain how they can do so much with the sand, from building to standing on it.
IT IS ALL ANT-SIZE!!!REVELATION






tman2nd wrote:
azule wrote:Retreating shore....but the water level has risen, right? *confuzled*

The river is different.

I know it was dif, but more like what water we see is the remnants of the river, basically a marsh now. *still confuzled*

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:41 pm UTC
by 12obin
Smithers wrote:What a difference the comma makes in "Helping your uncle Jack, off his horse" and "Let's eat, Grandma".


Surely if you were instructing me to assist my uncle Jack in dismounting a horse, "Help your uncle Jack off his horse", with no comma, would be correct. Ambiguous, yes, but it's a correct way to say it.
I was trying to come up with a less ambiguous way to say it, without saying "dismount" I mean, but "Help your uncle get off the horse" sounds pretty bad too now that you've got me thinking that way.
"Help your uncle to stop being on a horse..."

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:43 pm UTC
by boozledorf
12obin wrote:
Smithers wrote:What a difference the comma makes in "Helping your uncle Jack, off his horse" and "Let's eat, Grandma".


Surely if you were instructing me to assist my uncle Jack in dismounting a horse, "Help your uncle Jack off his horse", with no comma, would be correct. Ambiguous, yes, but it's a correct way to say it.
I was trying to come up with a less ambiguous way to say it, without saying "dismount" I mean, but "Help your uncle get off the horse" sounds pretty bad too now that you've got me thinking that way.
"Help your uncle to stop being on a horse..."

"Help your uncle down from the horse"
"Help your uncle from the horse"
"Help your uncle down"
"Help your uncle to the ground"

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:44 pm UTC
by Helper
12obin wrote:
Smithers wrote:What a difference the comma makes in "Helping your uncle Jack, off his horse" and "Let's eat, Grandma".


Surely if you were instructing me to assist my uncle Jack in dismounting a horse, "Help your uncle Jack off his horse", with no comma, would be correct. Ambiguous, yes, but it's a correct way to say it.
I was trying to come up with a less ambiguous way to say it, without saying "dismount" I mean, but "Help your uncle get off the horse" sounds pretty bad too now that you've got me thinking that way.
"Help your uncle to stop being on a horse..."

But that still has the problem of your uncle being 'on a horse' :twisted:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by Exodies
boozledorf wrote:
12obin wrote:
Smithers wrote:What a difference the comma makes in "Helping your uncle Jack, off his horse" and "Let's eat, Grandma".


Surely if you were instructing me to assist my uncle Jack in dismounting a horse, "Help your uncle Jack off his horse", with no comma, would be correct. Ambiguous, yes, but it's a correct way to say it.
I was trying to come up with a less ambiguous way to say it, without saying "dismount" I mean, but "Help your uncle get off the horse" sounds pretty bad too now that you've got me thinking that way.
"Help your uncle to stop being on a horse..."

"Help your uncle down from the horse"
"Help your uncle from the horse"
"Help your uncle down"
"Help your uncle to the ground"

"Help your uncle to alight"