1388: "Subduction License"

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1388: "Subduction License"

Postby sardia » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:28 am UTC

http://xkcd.com/1388/
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Alt: 'Dude, why can't you just be a normal roommate?' 'Because I'm coming TOWARD you!'

Hehe, plate tectonics.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby rhomboidal » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:35 am UTC

Still, better a roommate who's an earth quaker than a closet hog.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Patteroast » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:35 am UTC

That's a gloriously groan-worthy pun in the alt-text.

(For those that don't get it: a normal fault.)

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby GreatLimmick » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:41 am UTC

He'd better be careful. Subduction leads to orogeny.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby geomike » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:50 am UTC

This is one for those of us live with our heads in the sand.

Explainer: Subduction zones are places where plates converge, and convergence typically results in "reverse" and "thrust" faults. Divergence of plates typically results in "normal" faults.

Also, I need this on a t-shirt.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby bitwiseshiftleft » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:11 am UTC

Beret guy is an earthbender?

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Hiferator » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:35 am UTC

I liked the title text joke, but didn't really get the comic itself. Is "subduction license" a play on anything that actually exists?

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Nix_Seb » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:38 am UTC

GOOMHR!!!!!

No, not really. Just a point about how many obscure topics people seem to so commonly have had in their minds according to this forum.
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby McBee » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:06 am UTC

To be fair, the mountain range appearing from the floor would only look like that after years (ages) of erosion - when fresh, it would be just a raised floor.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby HES » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:33 am UTC

Where did the snow come from?
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Flumble » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:04 am UTC

HES wrote:Where did the snow come from?

Considering it's beret guy, I suspect it's icing.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby dzamie » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:04 am UTC

It's been a long time since I actually laughed out loud at an xkcd strip.

Code: Select all

:Clrhome
:while 1
:Output(randInt(1,8),randInt(1,16),randInt(0,9))
:Output(randInt(1,8),randInt(1,16)," ")
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby orthogon » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:11 am UTC

Hiferator wrote:I liked the title text joke, but didn't really get the comic itself. Is "subduction license" a play on anything that actually exists?

I was wondering the same thing, and interestingly (iirc) explainxkcd.com started with an explanation of the title text and only explained the main comic later. They reference xkcd0410 on the basis that it introduces "atypical licenses", but at least those (math[s], genetics, rocketry and stripping)are all for professional activities that might in principle require a license. Subduction just isn't a thing that a human can normally do. Also, is he causing the subduction by making an earthquake, i.e. a reversal of the normal cause and effect?
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Tova » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:15 am UTC

dzamie wrote:It's been a long time since I actually laughed out loud at an xkcd strip.


It's funny how many often there is one person that says this about a strip. The funny bone is a very individual thing. It's a rare talent to be able to hit everyone's.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:23 am UTC

HES wrote:Where did the snow come from?


Wise guy :mrgreen: . Reminds me of the ancient army joke that goes something like:

[sgt to private who's going on guard duty] If you see a submarine coming at you across that field, what do you do?
[private] I'd torpedo it , sir![1]
[sgt] Oh? And where would you get the torpedo?
[private] Same place you got the submarine, sir!


[1] The only allowable "correct" response is "I'd notify the Officer of the Day sir!"
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby HES » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:25 am UTC

Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:50 pm UTC

HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

FSM only knows -- I'm trying to reconstruct a joke I haven't seen or heard in 50 yrs :oops:
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Rplot » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:25 pm UTC

Not sure how it fits together, but possibly the room mate is subletting, and there is a thing called a sublease license, so ....

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby geomike » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:37 pm UTC

If there are neighbors in an apartment below, their experience is gneiss.

The roommate should ask him if he is going to clean up all of the schist.

They might be able to pay for some of the damage by selling the joints that will be created.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby ManaUser » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:45 pm UTC

McBee wrote:To be fair, the mountain range appearing from the floor would only look like that after years (ages) of erosion - when fresh, it would be just a raised floor.

HES wrote:Where did the snow come from?

Evidently, he also has an Artistic License.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby JohnTheWysard » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:15 pm UTC

I see there's a sub-dude reaction to this comic.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:45 pm UTC

HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby speising » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:13 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:
HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?

but sergeants work for their living. (as opposed to officers, apparently)

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:27 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:
HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?


Context: Outside of basic training, it is not customary in the US military to use "sir" to refer to any enlisted, regardless of rank.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby kalira » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:29 pm UTC

speising wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:
HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?

but sergeants work for their living. (as opposed to officers, apparently)


To add to this tangent, I can tell you from experience that if a private called a sergeant "sir," he will likely find himself doing all manner of unpleasant things. You may refer to any person in the military by his or her rank name, but only officers are ever referred to as "sir." The enlisted ranks tend to be insulted if you refer to them in that manner.

Of course, they tend to excuse it a bit more in civilians, if for no other reason than "they don't know better." A private, on the other hand, ought to know better, and if said private doesn't... well, the sergeant is going to make damn sure they do now.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Zinho » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:04 pm UTC

Tyndmyr wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:
HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?

Context: Outside of basic training, it is not customary in the US military to use "sir" to refer to any enlisted, regardless of rank.

To be fair, there is a U.S. military branch where Non-Commissioned Officers (NCOs = the upper enlisted ranks, i.e. Sergeants and Corporals) are addressed as "Sir": the U.S. Marine Corps. If someone outranks you, you address them as "Sir". "Sir" is also used in the U.S.M.C. to address both male and female superiors.

All the other branches of the military manage to distinguish Officers and NCOs, and use both "Ma'am" and "Sir" as gender appropriate. I generally don't like the label "jarhead" for Marines, as I have a few of them attending my family reunions; however, the Corps appears to be assuming with this linguistic practice that its lower enlisted don't have the mental capacity to correctly read rank insignia. Having only one word for addressing people that outrank you certainly simplifies training, that's for sure. My experience with the Military leads me to believe that this may actually be a "we wouldn't have to do this if it hadn't been a problem in the past" scenario.

Anyhow, make the joke a Marines joke instead of an Army joke and it totally works. Let's apply some MSt3k mantra to this discussion, all the bashing on a poor guy just trying to make a funny isn't worth it. Besides, with a comeback like that Private gave, if I were his NCO I'd hand him a request form for Officer Candidate School to flll out as soon as he recovered from his push-ups :lol:

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby jpvlsmv » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:12 pm UTC

I'm just glad it wasn't a Seduction License, which would have brought all the Impromptu-Team Artists out of the woodwork.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby JudeMorrigan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:58 pm UTC

Zinho wrote:To be fair, there is a U.S. military branch where Non-Commissioned Officers (NCOs = the upper enlisted ranks, i.e. Sergeants and Corporals) are addressed as "Sir": the U.S. Marine Corps. If someone outranks you, you address them as "Sir". "Sir" is also used in the U.S.M.C. to address both male and female superiors.

Is ... is that new? We called out DIs "sir" when I went through Navy OCS, but that was very strictly an OCS thing. Outside of that training environment, it was very much "yes, Gunnery Sergeant!" for the junior enlisted types.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:25 pm UTC

Zinho wrote:
Tyndmyr wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:
HES wrote:Why is he calling a sergeant "sir"?

Because sergeants outrank privates?

Context: Outside of basic training, it is not customary in the US military to use "sir" to refer to any enlisted, regardless of rank.

To be fair, there is a U.S. military branch where Non-Commissioned Officers (NCOs = the upper enlisted ranks, i.e. Sergeants and Corporals) are addressed as "Sir": the U.S. Marine Corps. If someone outranks you, you address them as "Sir". "Sir" is also used in the U.S.M.C. to address both male and female superiors.

All the other branches of the military manage to distinguish Officers and NCOs, and use both "Ma'am" and "Sir" as gender appropriate. I generally don't like the label "jarhead" for Marines, as I have a few of them attending my family reunions; however, the Corps appears to be assuming with this linguistic practice that its lower enlisted don't have the mental capacity to correctly read rank insignia. Having only one word for addressing people that outrank you certainly simplifies training, that's for sure. My experience with the Military leads me to believe that this may actually be a "we wouldn't have to do this if it hadn't been a problem in the past" scenario.

Anyhow, make the joke a Marines joke instead of an Army joke and it totally works. Let's apply some MSt3k mantra to this discussion, all the bashing on a poor guy just trying to make a funny isn't worth it. Besides, with a comeback like that Private gave, if I were his NCO I'd hand him a request form for Officer Candidate School to flll out as soon as he recovered from his push-ups :lol:


Nope. This is flat out incorrect. Outside of a training environment, this is not, nor has it historically been a normal form of address.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby HES » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:17 pm UTC

It was a good joke, I apologise for the tangent. I was going by RAF standards.

ManaUser wrote:Evidently, he also has an Artistic License.

Heh. Again, HES is being deliberately difficult.
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby pixeldigger » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:52 pm UTC

GreatLimmick wrote:He'd better be careful. Subduction leads to orogeny.

jpvlsmv wrote:I'm just glad it wasn't a Seduction License, which would have brought all the Impromptu-Team Artists out of the woodwork.


The Orogenous zone falls into the aforementioned "Seduction License"
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:57 pm UTC

jpvlsmv wrote:I'm just glad it wasn't a Seduction License, which would have brought all the Impromptu-Team Artists out of the woodwork.

Would you just let the dormant rest? We don't need an eruption of what you seem to be referring to.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby El gato » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:30 am UTC

Lord knows we don't wanna create a rift between the mountains.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby addams » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:38 am UTC

McBee wrote:To be fair, the mountain range appearing from the floor would only look like that after years (ages) of erosion - when fresh, it would be just a raised floor.

Volcanos are near subduction zones.
That is a fast forming mountain,

For a mountain.
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Klear » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:20 pm UTC

Zinho wrote:Anyhow, make the joke a Marines joke instead of an Army joke and it totally works. Let's apply some MSt3k mantra to this discussion, all the bashing on a poor guy just trying to make a funny isn't worth it. Besides, with a comeback like that Private gave, if I were his NCO I'd hand him a request form for Officer Candidate School to flll out as soon as he recovered from his push-ups :lol:


Also, everybody seems to point out that that's not the way it work in the US millitary, but the joke doesn't state where it happens...

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby addams » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:35 pm UTC

If it is True that inside the Military any Officer male or female can and should be aggressed as "Sir".
Well...If that is True. I like it.

Sure makes things easier.
Speaking as a woman, I don't mind being addressed as Mame'.
When men forget themselves and say, "Sir." I am relieved.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby orthogon » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

Besides the spam sandwiches, this is one of several reasons why I wouldn't be able to cut it in the armed forces. I'd never remember all the ranks and stuff.
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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby JudeMorrigan » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:50 pm UTC

addams wrote:If it is True that inside the Military any Officer male or female can and should be aggressed as "Sir".
Well...If that is True. I like it.

I'm afraid that at least when I was in, it wasn't. The etiquette as I was taught it was as follows: individual female superiors were addressed as "ma'am", individual male superiors as "sir", groups of female superiors as "ladies", groups of male superiors as "gentlemen", mixed groups as "ladies and gentlemen", "ma'am, gentlemen", "ladies, sir", or "ma'am, sir" as appropriate. Regardless of the ranks involved, you were always supposed to address the ladies first. At least in theory. In practice, addressing the seniormost officer first was pretty forgiveable, particularly in cases where the difference was significant.

This was strictly for the Navy and Marine Corps. I can't speak for the Army or Air Force.

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Re: 1388: "Subduction License"

Postby Tyndmyr » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:58 pm UTC

JudeMorrigan wrote:
addams wrote:If it is True that inside the Military any Officer male or female can and should be aggressed as "Sir".
Well...If that is True. I like it.

I'm afraid that at least when I was in, it wasn't. The etiquette as I was taught it was as follows: individual female superiors were addressed as "ma'am", individual male superiors as "sir", groups of female superiors as "ladies", groups of male superiors as "gentlemen", mixed groups as "ladies and gentlemen", "ma'am, gentlemen", "ladies, sir", or "ma'am, sir" as appropriate. Regardless of the ranks involved, you were always supposed to address the ladies first. At least in theory. In practice, addressing the seniormost officer first was pretty forgiveable, particularly in cases where the difference was significant.

This was strictly for the Navy and Marine Corps. I can't speak for the Army or Air Force.


This is also true in those services, yes.


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