1442: "Chemistry"

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1442: "Chemistry"

Postby alvinhochun » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:53 am UTC

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Title text: These are all sans-serif compounds. Serif compounds are dramatically different and usually much more reactive.

There is finally a use for Comic Sans.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Envelope Generator » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:59 am UTC

The use of umlaut and blackletter to boost reactions has been known since the late sixties. \,,/
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby moops » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:01 am UTC

Hmmm, 2D chemistry.

unless the letters have higher dimensions that are ignored in the typographic usage.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby meat.paste » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:11 am UTC

As a chemist, this drives me crazy. It's funny AND maddening.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:14 am UTC

I was just thinking that a new line to warn chemists needed to be added to the disclaimer at the bottom of the comic's page.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:47 am UTC

OK, potassium can't oxidise!
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby ysth » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:53 am UTC

Call me an ethynyl radical, but I submit that mydrane is an opthalmological illusion.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Dr What » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:55 am UTC

OK, I think I get this one. So Deuterium can fuse to Boron: D+D ⇌ B , and if you hit Hydrogen with electrons it will become He, and Nitrogen will become Ne.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby keithl » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:03 am UTC

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Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is typographically explosive.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Envelope Generator » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:07 am UTC

Does that character contain the entire recipe?
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby tups » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:15 am UTC

Well, as soon as you get to the d-block elements, many more bonds can be formed. Hafnium, for example (Hf) can form 8 bonds, but one of them is sterically quite problematic.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:46 am UTC

keithl wrote:
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Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is typographically explosive.

That's the equivalent of a nuclear bomb.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Black ICE » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:29 am UTC

keithl wrote:
biang.png


Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is typographically explosive.


good god, there's not even a renderable character for it. The Wikipedia article uses svg images instead of text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biangbiang_noodles

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby The Moomin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:04 am UTC

So are capital elements more reactive than lower case elements?

'E' can form more bonds than 'e'?
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:32 am UTC

The Moomin wrote:So are capital elements more reactive than lower case elements?

'E' can form more bonds than 'e'?


But "F" not more than "f"

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:49 am UTC

Black ICE wrote:
keithl wrote:
biang.png


Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is typographically explosive.


good god, there's not even a renderable character for it. The Wikipedia article uses svg images instead of text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biangbiang_noodles

Thanks, I enjoyed learning about that :D
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:53 am UTC

Black ICE wrote:
keithl wrote:
biang.png


Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is typographically explosive.


good god, there's not even a renderable character for it. The Wikipedia article uses svg images instead of text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biangbiang_noodles


I tried to look it up at zhongwen.com, but that entire site uses graphics for Chinese characters. Still, it's not in their dictionary; there's no phonetic "biang" with any tone, and (unless I lost count) the proffered hanzi has 57 strokes and Zhongwen's list tops out at 32.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby tjunction » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:11 am UTC

Aw, I was looking for a reference to the Helvetica Scenario.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby The Moomin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:15 am UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:
The Moomin wrote:So are capital elements more reactive than lower case elements?

'E' can form more bonds than 'e'?


But "F" not more than "f"


But 'b' more than 'B'?

I suppose that must be how they are grouped in the table. Then there are vowels and consonants too?
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby StClair » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:30 am UTC

Trying to imagine a universe built on that chemistry. If hydrogen tends to form stable crystals, it might not even have stars...

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby bachaddict » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:01 am UTC

keithl wrote:biang.png

Biángbiáng is a wide flat noodle from Shaanxi province in China. The noodles are tasty, but the label on the packaging is literally explosive.

FTFY
I read that as "Blangblang" and thought it was a nice onomatopeia.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Autolykos » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:13 am UTC

And there will be quite a few elements that really like to form polymers... I wonder what polymeric Nitrogen or Iodine would look like. Polymeric Sulphur, otoh, might be somewhat unstable in that universe...
And I don't want to think too much about the implications of Uranium readily replacing Carbon in most molecules...

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby bachaddict » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:32 am UTC

Does Tungsten form two bonds or five?
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:38 am UTC

moops wrote:Hmmm, 2D chemistry.

unless the letters have higher dimensions that are ignored in the typographic usage.

Perhaps there is only one multidimensional letter, and the various symbols that we're familiar with are simply different 2D projections.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:14 pm UTC

Eutychus wrote:I was just thinking that a new line to warn chemists needed to be added to the disclaimer at the bottom of the comic's page.


I was going to say "The trolling of chemists is strong in this cartoon, fellow xkcd-fans."

I haven't even read this thread yet, but expecting posts of ferrous wheels and Mercedes-Benzine :mrgreen:
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Tass » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:17 pm UTC

How to make gold:

Al + Cu -> Au + Cl
At + Pu -> Au + Pt

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Philbert » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:18 pm UTC

meat.paste wrote:As a chemist, this drives me crazy. It's funny AND maddening.


Same here, fellow chemist. It highly confused me until the word 'typographic' sunk in. I love how this affected me until I got it.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Showsni » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:21 pm UTC

So what's the difference between Hydrogen and Iodine?

Depending on font, Iodine either reacts with everything by simply lengthening the bonds, or behaves exactly the same as Hydrogen. But sideways.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby tups » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:22 pm UTC

Tass wrote:At + Pu -> Au + Pt


Strangely, from both a monetary and scientific point of view, the reverse reaction is a lot more interesting. The bottom line is in any case, radioactive terrorism is an expensive business ...

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Znirk » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:44 pm UTC

alvinhochun wrote:There is finally a use for Comic Sans.

Chimique Sans, actually. It's a variant that looks exactly the same, but is certified for laboratory use.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby mathmannix » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:41 pm UTC

Monomolecular wires made of Iodine?
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Envelope Generator » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:52 pm UTC

Showsni wrote:So what's the difference between Hydrogen and Iodine?

Depending on font, Iodine either reacts with everything by simply lengthening the bonds, or behaves exactly the same as Hydrogen. But sideways.


Hydrogen is short for pentaiodine. In fact everything is short for something-iodine.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Rombobjörn » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:55 pm UTC

There is one small but serious error: Those are sans-serif elements, not compounds. The only compound shown is mydrane. Except for that the science is faultless.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Hiferator » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:59 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:OK, potassium can't oxidise!

It might öxidise, though.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby N_8_ » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:03 pm UTC

I prefer phonetic chemistry over topographical personally.

I enjoy combining Phosphorus, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Neon to get a new PHONe and Carbon with Argon for a shiny new CAr.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Quizatzhaderac » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:04 pm UTC

6H2O + 6CO2 + radiation -> C6H12O6 + 6O2

Divide by O

6H2 + 6C2 + radiatin' -> C6H126 + 62

Envelope Generator wrote:Does that character contain the entire recipe?
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Based on my total ignorance of Chinese topography, I"m going to guess the center column is the recipe, the two identical columns on the left and right are people eating it, the markings outside of those indicate the type of restaurant it's severed in, and that big L thingy indicates the province.
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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:29 pm UTC

Quizatzhaderac wrote:Based on my total ignorance of Chinese topography, I"m going to guess the center column is the recipe, the two identical columns on the left and right are people eating it, the markings outside of those indicate the type of restaurant it's severed in, and that big L thingy indicates the province.

Here's a crash-course on Chinese topography for you:
Wikipedia wrote:The topography of China has been divided by the government into 5 homogeneous physical macro-regions, namely Eastern China (subdivided into the northeast plain, north plain, and southern hills), Xinjiang-Mongolia, and the Tibetan-highlands
xtifr wrote:... and orthogon merely sounds undecided.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby Whizbang » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:30 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
Quizatzhaderac wrote:Based on my total ignorance of Chinese topography, I"m going to guess the center column is the recipe, the two identical columns on the left and right are people eating it, the markings outside of those indicate the type of restaurant it's severed in, and that big L thingy indicates the province.

Here's a crash-course on Chinese topography for you:
Wikipedia wrote:The topography of China has been divided by the government into 5 homogeneous physical macro-regions, namely Eastern China (subdivided into the northeast plain, north plain, and southern hills), Xinjiang-Mongolia, and the Tibetan-highlands


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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:35 pm UTC

Envelope Generator wrote:
Showsni wrote:So what's the difference between Hydrogen and Iodine?

Depending on font, Iodine either reacts with everything by simply lengthening the bonds, or behaves exactly the same as Hydrogen. But sideways.


Hydrogen is short for pentaiodine. In fact everything is short for something-iodine.

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Except Iodine is straight - you need a curved element too - Uranium or Carbon - so Boron is 1 or 2 Iodines and two Carbon/Uranium.

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Re: 1442: "Chemistry"

Postby david.windsor » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:39 pm UTC

Imagine Black-Letter chemistry.

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