1446: "Landing"

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Xenomortis » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:51 am UTC

Quercus wrote:
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speising wrote:why didn't they put an RTG into the lander? that would have provided energy for years.


They addressed this in one of the press briefings. They said it was a political hurdle they could not cross.


Urgh, if it was an engineering problem I'd be okay with it, but politics, blargh!

Pu-238 is the main isotope used for RTG's and nobody's making it; the US and Russia are running low (apparently NASA get there's from the Russians) and the ESA probably doesn't have easy access to any.
And Philae's expected mission duration is short; is it worth the effort of using such a heavy power source (aren't they around 50kg or something?) when it's not going to actively be used for long?
(Not to mention some people were upset with the Cassini launch due to its use of an RTG, but let's ignore them).

peregrine_crow wrote:So why don't they do a full test of all crucial systems inside a vacuum chamber before sending it on a decade long mission? Just to make sure something like this doesn't happen ten years down the line.

Do we not have vacuum chambers that large (I have no idea how large Philea is, but it can't be that big, right)?

The lander is 1 x 1 x 0.8 m and weighs about 100kg.
But probably nobody thought it necessary; the chemistry looked fine and you do get a reaction when you try to burn nitrocellulose in vacuum (it just doesn't explode).
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:30 pm UTC

Another new frame.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby micdi » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:42 pm UTC

So we are at 1 image per day now?
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby orthogon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:09 pm UTC

I know there's no "up" or "down" in space, but does it bother anyone else that the Earth is thinking downwards? Thoughts are presumably felt to be lighter than air and hence normally float above their thinker.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby sdnelso2 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:20 pm UTC

I'm finally seeing the new frame (new comic? newpix?) on my end as well. I think the thought bubbles don't bother me because they're in space. Given the angle it's drawn at, it almost looks like a 3D forced perspective picture. Perhaps with Earth sending thoughts of thinking of Philae out to Rosetta, to cheer her up after losing contact with her traveling companion?

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby sdnelso2 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:33 pm UTC

micdi wrote:So we are at 1 image per day now?

Title text is still "LIVE". Philae doesn't have much to say as he's currently hibernating, and Rosetta probably only will be checking in every day or week or so, seeing as she's orbiting the comet for quite a while now. So they could still be real time.

So looks like we'll have to
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Moose Anus » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:55 pm UTC

Lemonade? ...Aww, ok.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby sdnelso2 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:41 pm UTC

Scientists still with a status of [Wine]. Must be having quite the extended weekend!

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:22 pm UTC

Or they drank themselves to passing out from excitement at first, then from worry, then from sorrow, then from worry, then from excitement, and then just because. :P
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Quercus » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:48 pm UTC

Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish wrote:Or they drank themselves to passing out from excitement at first, then from worry, then from sorrow, then from worry, then from excitement, and then just because. :P


Or they drank because that's what xkcd told them they should be doing.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby azule » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:52 am UTC

Yay, another frame. I suggest we try to confirm that these are released midnight EST. That's about an hour from now.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby micdi » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:19 pm UTC

Hm so the pages the img url should be fetched from just give me "Stream does not currently exist." at the moment.

EDIT: The https versions, that is, the http versions just time out.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby CasCat » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:39 pm UTC

If there IS a new frame, could someone post it here, please? It's not loading for me; all I get is a white square.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:36 pm UTC

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The whole thing is getting smaller.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:50 pm UTC

Klear wrote:The whole thing is getting smaller.


It's zooming out so the giant space whale will fit.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:14 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:
Klear wrote:The whole thing is getting smaller.


It's zooming out so the giant space whale will fit.
Hopefully it will zoom out even further so we can see your mom.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:15 pm UTC

Fat chance.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:19 pm UTC

Not as fat as yo mom. :P
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby azule » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:08 am UTC

micdi wrote:Hm so the pages the img url should be fetched from just give me "Stream does not currently exist." at the moment.
Similar problem for me last nip. I was getting 404 is not 200 or the like. Thanks Klear.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Marsh'n » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:33 am UTC

CasCat wrote:If there IS a new frame, could someone post it here, please? It's not loading for me; all I get is a white square.


Well, it's past 12:00AM EST (I'm in Germany this week, so post-comatose) and I'm also getting the White Frame. So maybe it changed at 12:00AM but no one posted it to this thread yet. (And I'm not sure I'm qualified. I tried open image in new page and got a static link to ???.png which doesn't have the form of others posted here.)

Has anyone here suggested reaching out to mscha or someone who has the newpixbot source to create a version for this comic and thread... just in case? I'm a bit concerned that xkcd1446.org doesn't have the new frame, if it is a new frame.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:45 am UTC

xkcd1446.org doesn't have any of the new frames. It stopped collecting them when the live event was over, so it's missed all of the once-per-day updates.

And as far as I know, mscha is currently AWOL. OTTers haven't managed to contact him recently. But you're right, his newpixbot would be ideal for this.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby azule » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:49 am UTC

Would it work the same? Time was 301/302 based (server redirects) while this one appears to only be JavaScript based. Usually bots don't work with JS.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby arcanmster » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:02 am UTC

I've also been getting only white frames since several days. I saw none of the "new" frames on the site. :(

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby sdnelso2 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:49 pm UTC

What do you suppose the purpose of the zooming out is, spacewhales aside?

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Seti » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:36 pm UTC

sdnelso2 wrote:What do you suppose the purpose of the zooming out is, spacewhales aside?

I'm hoping for a future picture in the style of the famous Cassini photograph with the earth as a distant pixel in the background, the comet in the foreground, and a giant flock of spacewhales heading for the former.

BlitzGirl wrote:xkcd1446.org doesn't have any of the new frames. It stopped collecting them when the live event was over, so it's missed all of the once-per-day updates.

And as far as I know, mscha is currently AWOL. OTTers haven't managed to contact him recently. But you're right, his newpixbot would be ideal for this.

What about explain xkcd? They also stopped collecting the daily pictures, but I think it would be easy to expand their article, mentioning that there are new pics, and adding them to their existing list.

Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish wrote:I'm working on several more little Philae comics x3
Do you like this style of Philae better, or the style I've had in the previous pictures (i.e. more detailed and with a face)? x3

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Larger picture: http://i.imgur.com/vL8xjcX.png

(so that I don't break the thread like I nearly did)

My answer is a bit late, but I just wanted to say that I like this picture. Philae reminds me of the cartoons ESA made to introduce the Rosetta mission to little kids. I don't know if you've seen them (somebody already put a link to one of the videos in this thread--though, don't ask me where), but if you haven't, you should take a look. Even if they are primarily directed at kids, I still found them entertaining, and really cute :)

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby azule » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:38 pm UTC

Seti wrote:What about explain xkcd? They also stopped collecting the daily pictures, but I think it would be easy to expand their article, mentioning that there are new pics, and adding them to their existing list.
Being a wiki, yes, we could update it ourselves. I still find it sad that no one [regularly] there is still checking on it. Thank davean for us! ^_^

BTW, it's still at frame 151 (unless my connection just won't give me a newer one).
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:36 pm UTC

Maybe it'll eventually zoom out to include Rosetta in the picture too, and then what... xD


Seti wrote:My answer is a bit late, but I just wanted to say that I like this picture. Philae reminds me of the cartoons ESA made to introduce the Rosetta mission to little kids. I don't know if you've seen them (somebody already put a link to one of the videos in this thread--though, don't ask me where), but if you haven't, you should take a look. Even if they are primarily directed at kids, I still found them entertaining, and really cute :)


I've seen them ^_^ the "are we there yet" one was absolutely heart-meltingly cute x3
I'm still demanding a little Philae plushie from wherever. I just want to hug the damn adorable thing x3
I'm making a tiny foldable. But that's not enough! I do hope that if they do make a plushie, that it is anthropomorphized. Which would make it a he. And he needs to come along with a Rosetta. I did dream of Philae for a while. But last night's dream was... I don't even know how to explain it. It went back to my normal wtf dreams. As much as I like these dreams, I want more Philae dreams x3
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Keyman » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:02 pm UTC

Well, It's not a new "frame" (and I guess it's not technically "new" anymore either), but......

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap141223.html

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby azule » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:06 pm UTC

Thanks. It's a quite lovely and intriguing image.

Btw, no new frames, still
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:24 am UTC

On a Philae-related note, I bought fabric and I'm going to make a giant plushie and a mini-plushie. There's also a paper Philae next to me. So many little model Philaes all around me. I made a Philae t-shirt with a rather crappy drawing (I hardly had any time to work on the image) of Philae on it. Just to name a few things. I can't get enough of Philae. I wuv him too much!

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:57 am UTC

Cute! I like your Philae avatar, too.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Girl-With-A-Math-Fetish » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:34 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Cute! I like your Philae avatar, too.


Fankoo x3

I doodled this last night:

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

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FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:38 am UTC

For SCIENCE.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

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Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

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Keyman wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:23 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.


Wait, this thread? Not just this comic?

Uhm, now I'm kinda nervous all of a sudden.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Whizbang » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:24 pm UTC

Klear wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.


Wait, this thread? Not just this comic?

Uhm, now I'm kinda nervous all of a sudden.



Maybe you should put some pants on your avatar...

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby micdi » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:58 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
Klear wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.


Wait, this thread? Not just this comic?

Uhm, now I'm kinda nervous all of a sudden.



Maybe you should put some pants on your avatar...

Actually it was much more about the thread than about the comic.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:20 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
Klear wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:FYI this thread is currently being discussed in an IRL international multidisciplinary conference.


Wait, this thread? Not just this comic?

Uhm, now I'm kinda nervous all of a sudden.



Maybe you should put some pants on your avatar...


Says the one who's avatar is forcibly breastfeeding someone. Also, no pants x4.


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