1560: "Bubblegum"

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1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Dr What » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:27 am UTC

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title="I came here to chew bubblegum and say no more than eighteen words ... and I'm all out of"

I'm all out of bubblegum. :|

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Fume Troll » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:42 am UTC

RIP Roddy.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby rhomboidal » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:50 am UTC

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby yahiek » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:28 am UTC

1 - I
2 - came
3 - here
4 - to
5 - chew
6 - bubblegum
7 - and
8 - say
9 - no
10 - more
11 - than
12 - eighteen
13 - words
14 - and
15 - I'm
16 - all
17 - out
18 - of


I guess I'm is counting as only one word, huh.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby CharlieP » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:03 am UTC

yahiek wrote:I guess I'm is counting as only one word, huh.


I've certainly always counted contractions as one word, and the Googleverse seems to agree with me.
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Anti Spiral » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:03 am UTC

Giving away his gum will help one of his goals but hinder the other!

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby jc » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:30 pm UTC

CharlieP wrote:
yahiek wrote:I guess I'm is counting as only one word, huh.

I've certainly always counted contractions as one word, and the Googleverse seems to agree with me.


Just for yuks, I looked up "word" in several of the well-known dictionaries. Then I took a couple of sentences, stripped out all the non-letters, and tried to use the dictionaries' definitions of "word" to reconstruct the word boundaries. All of them totally failed. The definitions were utterly useless in deciding which strings of letters qualified as words. The dictionary makers can't define "word" in a coherent manner.

Conclusion: The term "word" basically means whatever the speakers of a language agree are words. The word division scheme for each language is arbitrary, learned by rote at an early age, and passed down by teachers and books to future generations. Putting spaces between "words" does materially improve readability, but the main thing is that it be done consistently in each language.

Some languages (e.g., Japanese and the various languages called "Chinese") still haven't adopted the use of spaces to separate words. When they try to use the Roman alphabet (romaji, pinyin, etc.) to represent their language, they don't agree on where the spaces go, and often do it differently even within a single sentence.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby mathmannix » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:41 pm UTC

Grammatically, I think compound words are each one word, whether they are the obvious combined type ("bubblegum", "mailman"), the hyphenated type ("six-pack", "mother-in-law"), or even the kind with the space in it ("bubble gum", "seat belt"). I just checked, and apparently Microsoft Word uses spaces (but not hyphens) as the boundaries of words, although this might be a setting you can change.

As for contractions, at least The Free Dictionary and Wiktionary refer to a contraction as "a word". (Wikipedia and Merriam-Webster seem to avoid the issue.)
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby dp2 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:03 pm UTC

jc wrote:
CharlieP wrote:
yahiek wrote:I guess I'm is counting as only one word, huh.

I've certainly always counted contractions as one word, and the Googleverse seems to agree with me.


Just for yuks, I looked up "word" in several of the well-known dictionaries. Then I took a couple of sentences, stripped out all the non-letters, and tried to use the dictionaries' definitions of "word" to reconstruct the word boundaries. All of them totally failed. The definitions were utterly useless in deciding which strings of letters qualified as words. The dictionary makers can't define "word" in a coherent manner.

Examples?

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby rubinho » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:26 pm UTC

While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D. At the start of the first level of the first episode Duke says "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of gum." - not 18 words.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Qaanol » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:32 pm UTC

rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D. At the start of the first level of the first episode Duke says "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of gum." - not 18 words.

You mean showing how young you are?
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Whizbang » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:41 pm UTC

Qaanol wrote:
rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D. At the start of the first level of the first episode Duke says "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of gum." - not 18 words.

You mean showing how young you are?


Right? If he was truly old, he would have known that the phrase was stolen from Roddy Piper in the movie They Live

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby 16characters » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:57 pm UTC

Yes, Rowdy Roddy Piper will be missed. He was quite a character and a much underrated actor.

I was surprised to see the homage. Randall is much too young to remember They Live, at least when it came out in theatres. Perhaps he's a fan of Roddy's career in general?

The same with Hell Comes to Frogtown, but it's just as well that isn't the spoofed movie. I don't think "The Dance of the Three Snakes" would be quite appropriate.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby SerMufasa » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:10 pm UTC

I'll be honest, the death of Rowdy Roddy Piper hit me the hardest since Bob Denver died.
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Jackpot777 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:31 pm UTC

rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D.


Hey kid, have you heard they're making a new film called Ghostbusters? Can't wait to see the comedy duo of Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy in action...

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby squonk » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:06 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
Qaanol wrote:
rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D. At the start of the first level of the first episode Duke says "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of gum." - not 18 words.

You mean showing how young you are?


Right? If he was truly old, he would have known that the phrase was stolen from Roddy Piper in the movie They Live(For the uninformed.)


The second best part of that movie, next to the PUT ON THE GLASSES! fight.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby rmsgrey » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:11 pm UTC

rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D. At the start of the first level of the first episode Duke says "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of gum." - not 18 words.


One Must Fall: 2097 used the same reference two years before Duke Nukem 3D came out...

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby IQAndreas » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:38 pm UTC

Code: Select all

$ echo "I came here to chew bubblegum and say no more than eighteen words ... and I'm all out of" | wc -w
19


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[ic]wc[/ic] is counting the [ic]...[/ic] as a word. You can fix it by removing one tiny little space:

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$ echo "I came here to chew bubblegum and say no more than eighteen words... and I'm all out of" | wc -w
19

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Whitekiboko » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:21 pm UTC

16characters wrote:Yes, Rowdy Roddy Piper will be missed. He was quite a character and a much underrated actor.

I was surprised to see the homage. Randall is much too young to remember They Live, at least when it came out in theatres. Perhaps he's a fan of Roddy's career in general?

The same with Hell Comes to Frogtown, but it's just as well that isn't the spoofed movie. I don't think "The Dance of the Three Snakes" would be quite appropriate.


Randall is5 years younger than me, but if he had cable and/or hbo in the 80s/early 90s, he saw it plenty. Less so with Frogtown, that seemed to be more hbo-centric.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Whitekiboko » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:22 pm UTC

squonk wrote:
The second best part of that movie, next to the PUT ON THE GLASSES! fight.


I already loved by then South Park, but for Cripple Fight to reenact it was great.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Qaanol » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:43 am UTC

But what is the title-text narrator all out of‽
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby RogueCynic » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:57 am UTC

Bubblegum gives me nightmares. Thanks, Randall!
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby orthogon » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:10 am UTC

Qaanol wrote:But what is the title-text narrator all out of‽

Interrobangs. Maybe you can lend them one.
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:02 pm UTC

I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of ass.
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Whizbang » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:12 pm UTC

I have come here to chew ass and kick... no, wait.

I come in peace.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby piratejohn » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:41 am UTC

...and I'm all out of friends.

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby mathmannix » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:16 pm UTC

Jackpot777 wrote:
rubinho wrote:While risking showing my age, I think the cartoon refers to Duke Nukem 3D.


Hey kid, have you heard they're making a new film called Ghostbusters? Can't wait to see the comedy duo of Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy in action...

First of all, I have seen many movies made in 1988*, but not They Live. I had never really heard of it, except in relation to this quote from it (which I think was in a previous xkcd or something, and made me look it up.) I think Duke Nukem 3D is a lot more prevalent in pop-culture osmosis (it was not only a good game in itself, one of the earlier 3D FPS with good graphics for the time, but it had a lot of controversial content, which of course made it even more popular!)

Second of all, ehh on those two actresses together. I've seen Bridesmaids (it came out just before our wedding!) and it was not good. Full of rather juvenile, gross-out humor. I'm fairly confident at this point that the best parts of the upcoming Ghostbusters movie will be the cameos by Aykroyd and Murray.

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From the Wikipedia category 1988 films, the ones I recall having seen (some at the time, but I was a kid, so obviously some, like Die Hard, I saw later) are:
The Abyss
Arthur 2: On the Rocks
Beaches
Beetlejuice
Big
Big Business
Big Top Pee Wee
Bright Lights, Big City
Bull Durham
Caddyshack II
Child's Play
Cocktail
Cocoon: the Return
Coming to America
Crocodile Dundee II
Die Hard
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
Earth Girls Are Easy
Elvira, Mistress of the Dark
Funny Farm
Gorillas in the Mist
The Great Outdoors
The Land Before Time
Mac and Me
My Stepmother Is an Alien
Mystic Pizza
The Naked Gun
The New Adventures of Pippi Longstocking
Oliver & Company
Police Academy 5: Assignment Miami Beach
Rain Man (won the 1988 Best Picture)
Scrooged
Short Circuit 2
Twins
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Willow
and last (and probably least) Young Einstein.

Never saw Heathers or Rambo III. Looking through the list of 1988 movies, the ones I never saw but, based on their Wikipedia pages, I would like to see, are: Biloxi Blues, Eight Men Out, Frantic, Gotham, Stormy Monday, Tequila Sunrise, Without a Clue, and Working Girl. I probably don't want to see Dangerous Liasons. Still not sure about They Live.
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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby cyanyoshi » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:24 pm UTC

I knew this looked familiar! Look what's hiding in Click and Drag:

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Re: 1560: "Bubblegum"

Postby Eshru » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:06 pm UTC

I'm here to kick ass and sing Air Supply lyrics... And I'm all outta love.


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