1571: "Car Model Names"

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1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby cyanyoshi » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:02 pm UTC

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Title Text: "CLIMAX is good, but SEXCLIMAX is even better."

I'm personally looking forward to the upcoming Volvo CFGJKLMQRSVXZ-023456.
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby AutumnThunder » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:04 pm UTC

So just pick high-scoring Scrabble letters for car names? Got it.

Also, was the comic posted late today? It's nearly 10:00 Eastern.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Locoluis » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:05 pm UTC

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby LaughingTulkas » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:07 pm UTC

The reference to FHQWAGADS is making me WAY more happy than it should.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:18 pm UTC

Things don't look good for the original "car for everyone," aka "Model-T"

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Flotter » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:23 pm UTC

Finally, scientific proof that my car, a Mazda MX-5 (avg. value 7.3), is better than my mom's, a Mazda Demio (avg. value -2.96) :)

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby KarenRei » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:32 pm UTC

Would have been better if he had done this as Markov chains. I once did something like that to generate names - let's generate a list of 20:

Dianna Hocker
Uela Mera
Chara Mesadenia
Cheadle Pena
Whitebird Phosphor
Fittstown Nata
Aspa Mona
Pana Stantonsburg
Kinabalu Bula
Moreau Zanclidae
Snelling Beranger
Rosena Rubel
Asheboro Piper
Mona Mana
Montagna Rouman
Tena Austrogaea
Romadur Erian
Bloomburg Browne
Sangh Rafaela
Taylorize Thoas

I made a city and country generator too using the same principle which worked even better, but I can't find it right now.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby sashas » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:52 pm UTC

Why no Yugo Yoyo?

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby rsprinkle » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:57 pm UTC

A nit, but in the title, shouldn't it be 'Rav-4' instead of 'Rev-4' ?

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby orthogon » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:03 pm UTC

This is classic xkcd. Language, mathematics and knob gags in one comic.

It's occurred to me before that names, and proper nouns more generally, have a different letter distribution to general English, so I'd be interested to see the same thing done for them. Are car names just a more extreme case, or are there different letter preferences?
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Mahnarch » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:34 pm UTC

LaughingTulkas wrote:The reference to FHQWAGADS is making me WAY more happy than it should.


Me too.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby dp2 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:35 pm UTC

Locoluis wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XtremeKoolLetterz :roll:

There are a few like that, such as the Chevy Cruze. But mostly, it's legitimate words. "Expedition", "Explorer", "Flex", "Trailblazer". Or just clusters of letters that may or may not have meaning, like everything by BMW.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Quercus » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:50 pm UTC

For the UK market "Goodwood" would actually be an excellent car name, given that Goodwood House is a famous motorsport venue in Southern England.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby RGB-es » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:24 pm UTC

Dammit! I thought that "dude 178Y" was a good name for an elegant car.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby clockworkbookreader » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:28 pm UTC

I wonder what would happen if he applied this to names of medications?
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby 1337geek » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:52 pm UTC

LaughingTulkas wrote:The reference to FHQWAGADS is making me WAY more happy than it should.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Cervisiae Amatorem » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:03 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:This is classic xkcd. Language, mathematics and knob gags in one comic.


I was thinking the exact same thing and came here to post about it. I hope Randall stays on this path.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:13 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:This is classic xkcd. Language, mathematics and knob gags in one comic.

It's occurred to me before that names, and proper nouns more generally, have a different letter distribution to general English, so I'd be interested to see the same thing done for them. Are car names just a more extreme case, or are there different letter preferences?


For that matter, a list of the different words used in general English will have a different letter distribution than a typical chunk of English prose simply because of all the little words that get repeated in prose. Something like "the" which appears in a lot of sentences will bias its letters a lot compared to words like "table" that, while still common, only come up situationally.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby cantab314 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:43 pm UTC

Now redo the chart but count each model of the Porsche 911 individually :mrgreen:

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby CorruptUser » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:28 pm UTC

I think it should be the "Volvo Climax".

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:31 pm UTC

Back in the 70s I had a Toyota Plethora. I eventually traded it in for a Plymouth Miasma.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Crissa » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:38 pm UTC

Wouldn't you need to put a negative on any car name longer than the average? Longer names, of course, sell more poorly...

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby peewee_RotA » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:48 pm UTC

Chevy NOPE (-49.5)
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby StClair » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:32 pm UTC

clockworkbookreader wrote:I wonder what would happen if he applied this to names of medications?

Madness.

peewee_RotA wrote:Chevy NOPE (-49.5)

The infamous Nova clocks in at exactly half that (-24.75).

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Kotts » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:37 pm UTC

FWIW: The first suggested name in the Title Text (which I can't use here without the post being flagged as spam) WAS used as a car-related name. Google "Coventry [banned word from the Title Text]" and you will find out that it was the name of a manufacturer of some very successful racing engines.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby sbkp » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:46 am UTC

Lots of laughs and a Homestar Runner reference? I'm buying you a pizza.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby gormster » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:25 am UTC

Flotter wrote:Finally, scientific proof that my car, a Mazda MX-5 (avg. value 7.3), is better than my mom's, a Mazda Demio (avg. value -2.96) :)


And that is exactly why the MX-5 failed in the United States. MX-5 = 7.3, Miata = -0.96. Same car, different names, wildly different sales figures and reputation.
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Charcoal » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:11 am UTC

Hey all!
I've whipped up a little page based on this comic.

Bootstrap for prettiness and a tiny bit of JS for the interactivity.
Also I found an XKCD font :D

One thing I noticed is that the sample names in the comic's average letter scores are divided by 10.
I've replicated this in my implementation, but if people want I can change it; or add an option to switch between.

I'm guessing it's because it's my first post here, but I can't actually put the URL in.
But I'm sure you'll figure out the cryptic clue below!

charcoalstyles(dot)com/XKCDcars/

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby ruurdjan » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:05 am UTC

Peugeot 305 XR5S FTW! (58.8)

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Reecer6 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:06 am UTC

peewee_RotA wrote:Chevy NOPE (-49.5)

You know, Chevy did release a car under that name in America but it flopped because it translated to "Don't go, please. Stop." in English.

Anyways, shouldn't this mean the best name for a car is any number of 'X's in a row and nothing else, save for possibly spaces? Maybe even a single 'X'. I'm sure it'd be easy to do a Google search on that name.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby RogueCynic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:08 am UTC

I'm sad. My name scores a -30.
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Envelope Generator » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:01 am UTC

The Citroen ZX, at 104.5 the coolest car in the world.
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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby da Doctah » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:41 am UTC

Highest score of any car I've ever owned was the one I got as a gift when I graduated from high school: +20.0.

Lowest score, the one I inherited from my mother when she passed away: -36.71.

I've had eight cars in my life, two of them different years of the same model. The three American makes (four cars) all had negative scores; the two Japanese makes had positive scores. My current (Korean) car has a negative score.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby rob101 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:08 am UTC

OK, I waited 24 hours but no one built it, so here's a page where you can check words to your heart's content!


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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Charcoal » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:25 am UTC

rob101 wrote:OK, I waited 24 hours but no one built it, so here's a page where you can check words to your heart's content!

    Removed your URL, because I'm a noob

I made one, but since I just joined to post about it, it needs to go through moderator approval :(

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Mikeski » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:31 am UTC

The cars I've owned have all been pretty obvious upgrades over each other.

Numerically, though, they've gone -3.02, -1.96, +0.44, -2.23, -0.3, +4.62

Those two Pontiacs in the middle are really throwing off my curve fitting. I guess I should have bought the Bonneville before the Grand Prix.

(Numbers are using the extra divide-by-10 from the example scores in the comic, not just the average of the numbers on the bar graph.)

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby Eshru » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:52 am UTC

This would be more complicated, but more accurate method, in my opinion:

Each car model gets points based on sales or years the line has been around (both ideally) and each letter in the name gets points (divided equally or decending percentages, I dunno) and then each is totaled up for each letter and the middle letter is set to zero and everything row is +/- from there.

Successful brands would then be more likely show up as positive numbers, whereas now I bet they are just below zero on average.

Sonata, for example has been a pretty successful model for Hyundai but scores below zero. The Camry is also low despite being one of the most common cars on the road.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby vvv » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:27 am UTC

So 0xF43C3S would be a great model name. H4X0R would be slightly worse, but still good.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby poof312 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:25 am UTC

I'd want to drive a Honda 5Chainz myself.

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Re: 1571: "Car Model Names"

Postby peteispo » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:30 am UTC

My Ford S-Max scores a modest hit at 0.72 - that seems about right considering how popular that model has been.
Conversely my Fiat Panda is a miss at -1.89 - not quite right, since there have been over 2 million of those sold (rather more than the admittedly larger and more expensive S-Max)
Both cars were rated highly by Top Gear - maybe that needs to be factored in too?


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