ijuin wrote:Civilization is not going to disintegrate from the consequences of warming. The real issue (aside from needing to spend trillions of dollars to build big Netherlands-style sea walls to protect coastal cities should sea levels rise) is that we may end up having twelve billion people to feed but only enough crop yields to feed ten billion in a non-malnourished state. This will result in the "excess" two billion (likely the poor in the Third World) being left to starve, and potential revolutions and wars happening when they realize that we are, in fact, leaving them for dead.
Ten billion? With rainfall becoming more unpredictable, with more localised torrential downpours and area droughts, more years with no rain in some places and more whole villages being rinsed into the sea, more cities being flooded by "yet another record-breaking" hurricane, more reservoirs running dry on one side of a range while the other side has bridges getting smashed to bits by the floodwaters, the whole of Bangladesh unusable for agriculture due to groundwater salination, rivers drying up, twelve billion people wanting drinking water, heat and road fuel, oil reserves getting harder and riskier to extract, another five billion people wanting homes with gardens and off-road parking and a billion people having to move inland due to flooding of coastal cities, you think we'll be able to sustainably feed ten billion?
Let's have some current stats so we have some idea what we're looking at:
The vast majority of the world's hungry people live in developing countries, where 12.9 percent of the population is undernourished.
Sub-Saharan Africa is the region with the highest prevalence (percentage of population) of hunger. One person in four there is undernourished.
One out of six children -- roughly 100 million -- in developing countries is underweight.
2016 World Hunger and Poverty Facts and Statistics
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Number of undernourished and prevalence (%) of undernourishment
1990-2 No. 1990-2 % 2014-6 No. 2014-6 %
World 1,010.6 18.6 794.6 10.9
Developed regions 20.0 <5 14.7 <5
Developing regions 990.7 23.3 779.9 12.9
Africa 181.7 27.6 232.5 20.0
Sub-Saharan Africa 175.7 33.2 220.0 23.2
Asia 741.9 23.6 511.7 12.1
Eastern Asia 295.4 23.2 145.1 9.6
South-Eastern Asia 137.5 30.6 60.5 9.6
Southern Asia 291.2 23.9 281.4 15.7
Latin America & Carib. 66.1 14.7 34.3 5.5
Oceana 1.0 15.7 1.4 14.2
Source: FAO The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2015 p. 8
1 Central Africa 121.11
2 DR Congo 119.40
3 Sierra Leone 112.66
4 Angola 90.00
5 Somalia 83.15
6 Burundi 78.24
7 Chad 61.57
8 Eritrea 58.04
9 Kenya 56.68
10 Niger 56.01
11 South Sudan 52.53
12 Equ. Guinea 51.61
13 Mali 48.68
14 Ethiopia 48.19
15 Comoros 46.55
16 Sudan 46.47
17 Congo 46.23
18 Djibouti 41.77
19 Zambia 40.84
20 Cote d Ivoire 39.40
153 Germany 0.11
154 Hungary 0.11
155 Russia 0.11
156 Estonia 0.10
157 South Korea 0.10
158 United Kingdom 0.10
159 Serbia 0.10
160 Cyprus 0.06
161 Ukraine 0.05
162 Finland 0.04
163 Lithuania 0.03
164 Slovakia 0.02
165 Singapore 0.02
166 Austria 0.01
167 Croatia 0.00
168 Kuwait 0.00
169 Malta 0.00
170 Moldova 0.00
171 Slovenia 0.00
172 Macedonia 0.00
So, it seems you're right about which part of the world loses the most people to starvation every year. T.I.E.: Thit Izz Iffricker, as Danny Archer might put it.
I don't think that problem would stay out of "your" country, though, and when it comes down to fighting over access to a stream, it's a war of annihilation, and that looks more like ... well ...
Trigger warning: war of annihilation.
So, er, let me just check something.
an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached.
those people or nations that have reached such a state.
any type of culture, society, etc., of a specific place, time, or group:
the act or process of civilizing, as by bringing out of a savage, uneducated, or unrefined state, or of being civilized :
Rome's civilization of barbaric tribes was admirable.
cultural refinement; refinement of thought and cultural appreciation:
The letters of Madame de Sévigné reveal her wit and civilization.
cities or populated areas in general, as opposed to unpopulated or wilderness areas:
The plane crashed in the jungle, hundreds of miles from civilization.
modern comforts and conveniences, as made possible by science and technology:
After a week in the woods, without television or even running water, the campers looked forward to civilization again.
verb (used without object), disintegrated, disintegrating.
to separate into parts or lose intactness or solidness; break up; deteriorate:
The old book is gradually disintegrating with age.
(of a nucleus) to change into one or more different nuclei after being bombarded by high-energy particles, as alpha particles or gamma rays.
verb (used with object), disintegrated, disintegrating.
to reduce to particles, fragments, or parts; break up or destroy the cohesion of:
Rocks are disintegrated by frost and rain.
Huh. Civilization looked pretty f'king thoroughly disintegrated to me in those examples.
So ... what? You think none of that could happen again because 9/11 changed everything?
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.