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1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:20 pm UTC
by thunk
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Alt-text: ♫ When the spacing is tight / And the difference is slight / That's a moiré ♫

The music notes showed up as mojibake on my system.
I remember some good old mojibake from the computer games my family brought from Russia. I guess Skalniacy Adventures has those too? WIth extra moiré boss battles.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:39 pm UTC
by Jorpho
Well, geez, all this time I've been pronouncing it "mwar".

And yes, the title text is messed up here in Windows 7 with both Firefox and Chrome – both the music notes and the accented "e". Internet Explorer 11 fares slightly better in that it manages to come up with Chinese characters somehow.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:43 pm UTC
by orthogon
This is properly funny. I almost actually lolled out loud.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:47 pm UTC
by Divinius
I did actually laugh out loud. And I'm probably going to have these lyrics stuck in my head for life now.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:50 pm UTC
by orthogon
If anyone isn't sure what a moiré is, here's a picture illustrating it:
Spoiler:
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Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:56 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
orthogon wrote:If anyone isn't sure what a moiré is, here's a picture illustrating it:
Spoiler:
Image

That pun is sickening. It actually made me eel.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:02 pm UTC
by Keyman
Coincidence?
https://phys.org/news/2017-03-moire-sup ... ymers.html

With links to full article entitled "Preferential Alignment of Incommensurate Block Copolymer Dot Arrays Forming Moiré Superstructures"

That should get the song out of your head! :wink:

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:07 pm UTC
by Hiferator
As a non-native speaker, I would like to know what is the song this is a reference to.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:12 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
Hiferator wrote:As a non-native speaker, I would like to know what is the song this is a reference to.

It's an American(-Italian) 1950s Vegas-ish crooner thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69O4PXzAQ5Y

(And legitimate Wikipedia In-Popular-Culturising possible for someone here, if someone wants to do it.)

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:18 pm UTC
by Reka
As a member in good standing of the Anti-Pun Enforcement League, my reaction to this comic is THWACK! THWACK THWACK THWACK THWACK THWACK! Bad Randall, no cookie.

That is all, carry on.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:19 pm UTC
by flicky1991
Apparently Randall is not above stealing jokes from his own IRC channel. :P

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:22 pm UTC
by Eoink
Spider Robinson did a lot of That's Amore puns in his book the Callahan Touch, I'm quite surprised that a search didn't get the lyrics. And yep, I came close to laughing out loud.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:22 pm UTC
by cellocgw
He stole this from a more common knockoff of "Amore," which goes something like

When you swim by the reef,
and see a snake with big teeth,
that's a moray.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:26 pm UTC
by Thirsting
I can see the rainbow with my bare eyes! Oh wait no, that's just the migraine aura again... please kill meeee

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:28 pm UTC
by CelticNot
flicky1991 wrote:Apparently Randall is not above stealing jokes from his own IRC channel. :P


TIL xkcd has its own equivalent to bash.org. I am howling (with laughter).

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:46 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
orthogon wrote:If anyone isn't sure what a moiré is, here's a picture illustrating it:
Spoiler:
Image

When a fish bites your heel and it feels like an eel...

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:49 pm UTC
by rhhardin
Digital cameras have an anti-aliasing screen which prevents that, by smearing light over more than one pixel. Otherwise pictures of house sidings and chain link fences would always give those odd patterns (which regular film, with random grains, does not suffer from).

The smearing unfocusses the image so the taking is followed by a software sharpening step, which looks for edges to sharpen. That sharpening is the most noticeabls effect of a digital photo as it doesn't get the edge conditions quite right as to color and texture.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 pm UTC
by poslfit
The rollover text is not appearing correctly in many browsers (at least Google Chrome and Safari on OS/X) because it's entered into the source as raw binary, and Randall has not specified a <meta charset="whatever"> tag.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 pm UTC
by orthogon
cellocgw wrote:He stole this from a more common knockoff of "Amore," which goes something like

When you swim by the reef,
and see a snake with big teeth,
that's a moray.


I thought, when I posted my eel, that divers and marine biologists probably had a version of this already. Nevertheless, Randall's take on it is clever, geeky and scans perfectly.

One of the biggest problems with the Internet is that not only do you suspect that anything you come up with is unoriginal, but the tools to confirm this are just a click away. You just have to not check, otherwise you'd end up never posting anything.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:21 pm UTC
by Steve the Pocket
I'm certain I've heard this joke before somewhere. I've gotten into the habit of Googling every one-liner puns I think of so I can see how many million times it's already been done, and keeping a list of the number of results for each. I've gotten lucky enough to find a few zeroes, but that wasn't one of 'em. Although I could swear I remembered a better set of lyrics than the ones this turned up just now.

Soupspoon wrote:(And legitimate Wikipedia In-Popular-Culturising possible for someone here, if someone wants to do it.)

Hmm. No mention of the Sesame Street song "That's Peligro" or the theme from Goodfeathers. Dare I be That Guy, or are they liable to refert my edit for lack of citation even though nothing currently on the list has any?

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:51 pm UTC
by somitomi
Hiferator wrote:As a non-native speaker, I would like to know what is the song this is a reference to.

As a reader of foreign comics, cultural references are the bane of my existence. So I try to spend little time in that particular form.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:17 pm UTC
by flicky1991
CelticNot wrote:
flicky1991 wrote:Apparently Randall is not above stealing jokes from his own IRC channel. :P


TIL xkcd has its own equivalent to bash.org. I am howling (with laughter).

xkcdb wrote:

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<Mieulium> does anyone know what is the website with hilarious irc chat logs?
<Random832> Mieulium: xkcdb.com
<smokey> xkcdb
<genewitch> xkcdb.com
<Burstaholic> what, bash.org?
<@snark> xkcdb.com
* Burstaholic was kicked by snark (C-C-COMBO-BREAKER)

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:21 pm UTC
by J%r
Who takes screenshots using a camera anyway? Or do they think the 'print screen' button would make their screen print on a printer?

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:32 pm UTC
by capngwyn
When you swim in a creek
and an eel bites your cheek
it's a moray...

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:21 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
J%r wrote:Who takes screenshots using a camera anyway? Or do they think the 'print screen' button would make their screen print on a printer?

Doesn't work on various boot-sequence failures, BSODs and the like. Nor can it show dead pixels or other monitor-end problems/cable-interference/video card failure modes. Or if even MSPaint is crashing on launch (the worm you just removed had rehooked .exes through its now absent self), screenshot to paste buffer doesn't help one jot. And when the problem computer is having networking problems (or just isn't networked) and you're asking a forum via your smartphone browser, it might be easier to take a photo on the latter than to screenshot then work out if you can plug your USB drive into the smartphone or temporarily switch your phone's memory card into the computer, to transfer the file...

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:29 pm UTC
by Keyman
capngwyn wrote:When you swim in a creek
and an eel bites your cheek
it's a moray...

Here in the upper midwest USA, that word is sometimes pronounced "crick".

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:44 pm UTC
by flicky1991
And an eel bites your chick?

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:01 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
also morays are saltwater fish so wouldn't be found in creeks of either pronunciation

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:29 pm UTC
by Krealr
Pfhorrest wrote:also morays are saltwater fish so wouldn't be found in creeks of either pronunciation


Wikipedia disagrees with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnothorax_polyuranodon

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:40 pm UTC
by Archgeek
Soupspoon wrote:
J%r wrote:Who takes screenshots using a camera anyway? Or do they think the 'print screen' button would make their screen print on a printer?

Doesn't work on various boot-sequence failures, BSODs and the like. Nor can it show dead pixels or other monitor-end problems/cable-interference/video card failure modes. Or if even MSPaint is crashing on launch (the worm you just removed had rehooked .exes through its now absent self), screenshot to paste buffer doesn't help one jot. And when the problem computer is having networking problems (or just isn't networked) and you're asking a forum via your smartphone browser, it might be easier to take a photo on the latter than to screenshot then work out if you can plug your USB drive into the smartphone or temporarily switch your phone's memory card into the computer, to transfer the file...

HEH, the number of times I've taken a digicam shot of a bluescreen, boot, login, or imaging error for my old job is very highly amusing. 'Lotta shots of service stickers for boxes and printers, too.

Edit: Shart, I've even taken video of things that were flashing by too quick to get a picture of, so I could dig the info out of the frames and add it to whatever support case was involved.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:05 pm UTC
by jc
capngwyn wrote:When you swim in a creek
and an eel bites your cheek
it's a moray...

Nah probably not. Morays are salt-water fish, and only make brief forays into brackish or fresh water looking for prey.

Actually, I was curious, and decided to look this up. I did find references to "fresh-water morays" that are sold in pet stores. But the ones about "how to care for your ..." fish mentioned that the few moray species that are occasionally caught in fresh water (and thus sold as fresh-water fish in the pet trade) usually only live a few weeks before dying from parasites or starvation due to their weakened condition in water without salt. The writers clearly consider this to be something wrong with the pet-store trade, and warn readers not to fall for it.

But it is actually a slight possibility that a moray may nip you before deciding that you're too big to kill and eat. It'd probably be in a creek that's fairly close to salt water. So, as with a lot of politicians' claims, the above lyrics aren't entirely wrong. But the thing that bit you is much more likely to be a true fresh-water fish than any sort of moray.

(Yeah, I know; picky, picky ...;-)

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:14 pm UTC
by Jorpho
jc wrote:
capngwyn wrote:When you swim in a creek
and an eel bites your cheek
it's a moray...

Nah probably not. Morays are salt-water fish, and only make brief forays into brackish or fresh water looking for prey.
When you swim in the sea
and an eel bites your knee
that's a moray...

Eoink wrote:Spider Robinson did a lot of That's Amore puns in his book the Callahan Touch, I'm quite surprised that a search didn't get the lyrics. And yep, I came close to laughing out loud.

Oh, found it.
http://www.elorasoap.com/karensloop/puns.html

Some more ripe material at https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/eel-and-wo ... s/76438/31 .

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:38 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
Pfhorrest wrote:also morays are saltwater fish so wouldn't be found in creeks of either pronunciation

There are arguably features that I would recognise by the term 'creek' in the intertidal/supertidal parts of salt marshes and deltas...

But that seems to be a contentious point in the anglosphere...

creek
/kriːk/
noun

BRITISH: a narrow, sheltered waterway, especially an inlet in a shoreline or channel in a marsh.
"a sandy beach in a sheltered creek"
synonyms: tidal inlet, inlet, arm of the sea, estuary, bay, bight, fjord, gulf, sound; More

NORTH AMERICANAUSTRALIAN/NZ: a stream or minor tributary of a river.
"he drove into Adam's Creek"
synonyms: stream, rivulet, brook, river, tributary, backwater


(I seem to tend to think in terms of the former, without any context, but the barest hint that it's being said by a colonial, and I'll think of it as an inland-only gill, streamlet or natural ditch, smaller/slower than a 'proper' river but possibly still needing a fortuitously fallen tree trunk to cross...)

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:45 am UTC
by Flumble
Please use Dutch vocabulary when talking about water and shipwright things.
A kreek (creek) is a narrow body of water that has no/barely* a connection to the sea. Note that creek in the sense of a tidal creek can range anywhere from priel to inham to fjord to getijdengeul.
A beek (creek) is a stream of water smaller than a river (and according to wikipedia you must be able to wade through it everywhere for it to be classified a beek).

Anyway, as Krealr mentioned already, some morays live in brackish and fresh water.


*Dammit, some sources define it as formerly connected to the sea, some as connected to the sea. This undermines the idea of Dutch as the marine language.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:21 am UTC
by Jorpho
Looks like the hover text got fixed at some point. We may rest easy knowing that unicode support for title text is not broken.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:34 am UTC
by wayne
A New Zealander man
With tattoos and a tan...

That's a Maori...

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:11 am UTC
by orthogon
This is all very well, but we aren't getting any closer to answering the big question that's on all our minds: is a pizza, or isn't it, a type of pie?

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:12 am UTC
by niky
When you walk through the wood
Picking 'shrooms that taste good
That's a morel

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:18 am UTC
by Wee Red Bird
Jorpho wrote:Well, geez, all this time I've been pronouncing it "mwar".

There will be lots of confused XKCD fans pronouncing it wrong after reading this strip.
Unless it is one of those words that you pronounce differently in America, even though it is French.

Re: 1814: "Color Pattern"

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:20 am UTC
by Znirk
Wee Red Bird wrote:Unless it is one of those words that you pronounce differently in America, even though it is French.


Wikipedia suggests they do, although they don't go as far as going silent on the <é>:

/mwɑːrˈeɪ/; French: [mwaˈʁe]