1845: "State Word Map"

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1845: "State Word Map"

Postby glasnt » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:07 am UTC

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Alt: "The top search for every state is PORN, except Florida, where it's SEX PORN."



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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby sardia » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:11 am UTC

This isn't the first time he's gone after so called statisticians who make maps.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby pogrmman » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:26 am UTC

You know what they say about statisticians: they can take any data, and make them say anything make the data fit the conclusion.

It reminds me a lot of this comic, too. You know, that stuff doesn't vary a ton across different areas.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby hamjudo » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:28 am UTC

Challenge: choose a normalization that both makes fun of Florida, and selects a hyphenated word for Michigan, but no other state. Bonus points for something that messes with Texas.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby rhomboidal » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:31 am UTC

I'd like to live in a state where the most-used word is "methodology." Nerdvana on Earth.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby flicky1991 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:48 am UTC

I just loved the irony that the initial version of the map this was inspired by had a spelling mistake in it. Muphry's law?
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Mikeski » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:03 am UTC

Wyoming and Utah might be correct.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Copper Bezel » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:26 am UTC

Not Iowa, though, that's just silly.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby westrim » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:45 am UTC

flicky1991 wrote:I just loved the irony that the initial version of the map this was inspired by had a spelling mistake in it. Muphry's law?

If there was any state to be made fun of in that graphic it was Wisconsin, where the word was... Wisconsin. It's like the anthropomorphic state was both vain and dumb enough to have its own name as a word it did not know, which fits my stereotypes about their current governance.

In general, I feel like Google Trends would be on top of properly massaging their own data, and Florida actually has a non phonics friendly and perfectly reasonable top word to check, so I'm not sure this specific map is part of Randalls targets.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Copper Bezel » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:53 am UTC

I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby da Doctah » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:24 am UTC

Delaware's word is an apparent reflection of its continuing pride in being the first state admitted to the Union.

I'd like to see a set of fifty maps, one for each state, showing whether or not that state is considered part of the Midwest. Most would be entirely in whatever color designates "no" (nobody thinks Mississippi or Alaska is Midwestern), and one map would entirely the other color (the one that shows who thinks Iowa deserves the designation).

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:27 am UTC

Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.


So my home state is highly ranked for "How to delete Tinder" ? That's kinda scary, in a weird sort of way. Then I noticed that NY has "how to use Tinder", so I'm thinking Tinder really means the Yankees. :twisted: :twisted:

Also why the [bleep] does CA get to have such a long list compared w/ other states?
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby westrim » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:58 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.


So my home state is highly ranked for "How to delete Tinder" ? That's kinda scary, in a weird sort of way. Then I noticed that NY has "how to use Tinder", so I'm thinking Tinder really means the Yankees. :twisted: :twisted:

Also why the [bleep] does CA get to have such a long list compared w/ other states?


Population, dude.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby SchighSchagh » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:09 pm UTC

The top search for every state is PORN, except Florida, where it's SEX PORN.


inb4 pornhub announces spike in searches for "sex porn" ..... from Florida

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Postby somitomi » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:04 pm UTC

rhomboidal wrote:I'd like to live in a state where the most-used word is "methodology." Nerdvana on Earth.

I think that's South Dakota not Nevada. :P
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby gmalivuk » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:12 pm UTC

Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.

I think it's only low-visibility if you're not a map and data nerd.

(Which is to say, yes probably low overall, but pretty common in Randall's own circles.)
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:22 pm UTC

SchighSchagh wrote:
The top search for every state is PORN, except Florida, where it's SEX PORN.


inb4 pornhub announces spike in searches for "sex porn" ..... from Florida

Presumably, sex porn is a retronym made necessary by the increasing prevalence of phrases like food porn or technoporn.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:34 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
SchighSchagh wrote:
The top search for every state is PORN, except Florida, where it's SEX PORN.


inb4 pornhub announces spike in searches for "sex porn" ..... from Florida

Presumably, sex porn is a retronym made necessary by the increasing prevalence of phrases like food porn or technoporn.


The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes." Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:

Sadly, most of what's referred to as porn really is erotica. Any depictions of nude bodies without erotic intent really shouldn't qualify as pornography either.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:50 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes."

Originated, schmoriginated. It's what the word means now, in English, that matters. Anyway, it only really got going in the 20th Century, presumably influenced by sharing the "-ography" suffix with photography.

cellocgw wrote: Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:

A restaurant critic?
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby DanD » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:06 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes." Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:


Quite literally, a restaurant, or at least the staff therein (and most likely grocery store staff, as well). A prostitute is one who sells sex for money. A restaurant worker is one who sells food for money. There's nothing mystical about prostitution, except that it is illegal, and unfortunately prone to exploitation and human trafficking. The latter two, to a large extent, deriving from the first.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Reka » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:10 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes."

Not to be tautological, but the etymological fallacy is a fallacy.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:40 pm UTC

Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.

buh...

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby HES » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:51 pm UTC

Until you realise you're not in Kansas any more!

I misread the title as "State World Map" and took it as another stab at Americans' geography skills.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby peterdavidcarter » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:56 pm UTC

It's basically all just either 1 or 0 anyway.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby TheEngineer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:58 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
cellocgw wrote:The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes."

Originated, schmoriginated. It's what the word means now, in English, that matters. Anyway, it only really got going in the 20th Century, presumably influenced by sharing the "-ography" suffix with photography.

cellocgw wrote: Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:

A restaurant critic?

Well if a sex prostitute sells sex for money then a food prostitute sells food for money, ie another word for grocer. Guess that makes my local supermarket one hell of a food brothel.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

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TheEngineer wrote:
orthogon wrote:
cellocgw wrote:The word "pornography" originated from the literal Greek "writing about prostitutes."

Originated, schmoriginated. It's what the word means now, in English, that matters. Anyway, it only really got going in the 20th Century, presumably influenced by sharing the "-ography" suffix with photography.

cellocgw wrote: Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:

A restaurant critic?

Well if a sex prostitute sells sex for money then a food prostitute sells food for money, ie another word for grocer. Guess that makes my local supermarket one hell of a food brothel.


To me the connotations of prostitution imply a selling and degradation of the self. Thus, for example, if you were a cauliflower and allowed people to nibble on your fronds for cash you might be a food prostitute. Even if you engaged in restaurant footsie for the sake of a free meal you might be but I don't personally think you could call a greengrocer that without risking a punch in the eye.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:36 pm UTC

So the guy selling that saucy little cauliflower is a food pimp, then?
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby GlassHouses » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:40 pm UTC

My beef with the original map is that it doesn't actually show which words are most commonly misspelled, but which words people aren't sure about. The words that are most commonly misspelled are the ones where people think they know the correct spelling, but don't. Like: loser, whose, their, etc.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby heuristically_alone » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:49 pm UTC

I always have to think a lot harder than I should when spelling ' surprise'.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Steve the Pocket » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:53 pm UTC

HES wrote:Until you realise you're not in Kansas any more!

Heh, if someone wanted to just make an XKCD-esque fictionalized map of the most common searches by state, "how to get back home from Oz" would be a pretty good one for Kansas.
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Postby Zylon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:54 pm UTC

Today's strip brought to us by Randall throwing a tantrum that he didn't think of it first.

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Zylon wrote:
Today's strip brought to us by Randall throwing a tantrum that he didn't think of it first.

Yes, I'm sure the middle of 2017 is when Randall decided to "throw a tantrum" about not being able to start a trend back in 2014 or so.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Soupspoon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:06 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:Not sure what a "food prostitute" might be." :mrgreen:

I'm unsure too, but only because I can think of at least two major fetishes that might well be serviced by a food prostitute... :oops:

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Mikeski » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:12 pm UTC

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Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.

buh...

Kansas: "How to find Kansas?"

wha? look around you: there's kansas!

They're asking preventatively; once they find their way out, they don't want to accidentally come back.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Copper Bezel » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:25 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
Copper Bezel wrote:I'd only seen one of these passed around recently, but it wasn't that one. So I think this is an ongoing low-visibility meme like sandwiches.

I think it's only low-visibility if you're not a map and data nerd.

(Which is to say, yes probably low overall, but pretty common in Randall's own circles.)

Ah, gotcha, that makes sense. So there's probably nothing special about these two examples and Randall's likely to see these all the time.

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Pfhorrest wrote:buh...

Kansas: "How to find Kansas?"

wha? look around you: there's kansas!

They're asking preventatively; once they find their way out, they don't want to accidentally come back.


As a Kansas resident, I can confirm that this is the only reason I'd ever want to know.

peterdavidcarter wrote:To me the connotations of prostitution imply a selling and degradation of the self. Thus, for example, if you were a cauliflower and allowed people to nibble on your fronds for cash you might be a food prostitute. Even if you engaged in restaurant footsie for the sake of a free meal you might be but I don't personally think you could call a greengrocer that without risking a punch in the eye.


Yeah, there are kinder words for someone who sells sex for money than "prostitute", from "escort" to "sex worker", so if you're using that word, whether or not the context is sex, you're invoking those other connotations.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Plasma_Wolf » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:14 pm UTC

No love for Washington D.C? Randall didn't assign a word for that.

I know, no state, but still...

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

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gmalivuk wrote:
Zylon wrote:Today's strip brought to us by Randall throwing a tantrum that he didn't think of it first.

Yes, I'm sure the middle of 2017 is when Randall decided to "throw a tantrum" about not being able to start a trend back in 2014 or so.

Okay then, you explain the artless, hamfistedly smug approach he took to this one, especially considering the hypocrisy that infographics are one of his favorite things to do.

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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby Copper Bezel » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:52 am UTC

Look at the two examples of real charts posted in this thread.

Now look at any of Randall's infographics.

Now look back.

Those charts are not his charts. But they can smell like informative content with the right ... wait, what am I doing?

Seriously, Randall clearly loves doing insightful, interesting infographics that cause people to look at information they already have in a new way, or make things visible that wouldn't be otherwise, or fight misinformation. That is exactly the opposite of "we used data mining to produce something that looks like a meaningful chart," a joke that's good exactly once with the understanding that it is a joke as a part of the joke.

Edit: Or simpler: Randall is a skilled infographic maker who has a right to be an infographic snob.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby gmalivuk » Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:02 am UTC

Zylon wrote:
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Zylon wrote:Today's strip brought to us by Randall throwing a tantrum that he didn't think of it first.

Yes, I'm sure the middle of 2017 is when Randall decided to "throw a tantrum" about not being able to start a trend back in 2014 or so.

Okay then, you explain the artless, hamfistedly smug approach he took to this one, especially considering the hypocrisy that infographics are one of his favorite things to do.

It's funny to those of us who are familiar with the genre and aware enough of statistics to know about its shortcomings.

It's fine if it's not funny to you. Not every comic is going to be funny to everyone, and that's okay.
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Re: 1845: "State Word Map"

Postby wfaulk » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:50 pm UTC

Why is there no border between New Hampshire and Maine?


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