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Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:06 pm UTC
by drazen
I suppose that, technically, it's not the speaker's/writer's fault even if literally everyone misinterprets them, at least from a certain philosophical perspective (that all of us have our own way of viewing and interpreting the world, and that this is the result of deterministic physical and biological processes).

Also, perhaps he doesn't literally mean everyone? If he's merely being hyperbolic here, then that would change the entire meaning of the comic.

As with the A-B-C example above, what if "everyone" is just half of everyone, but they're the half that get ridiculously loud and angry and obnoxious whenever says something that does not comport with their beliefs?

Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:01 pm UTC
by gmalivuk
Mutex wrote:Randall isn't saying there are no situations where the speaker isn't the one at fault for being misinterpreted.
I think you used the correct number, but wow that's a lot of embedded negations in one sentence.

Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:13 pm UTC
by Mutex
gmalivuk wrote:
Mutex wrote:Randall isn't saying there are no situations where the speaker isn't the one at fault for being misinterpreted.
I think you used the correct number, but wow that's a lot of embedded negations in one sentence.

I'm not sure it wouldn't be impossible to make the point without refusing to avoid using that many negations though.

Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:20 pm UTC
by Weeks
Mutex wrote:
gmalivuk wrote:
Mutex wrote:Randall isn't saying there are no situations where the speaker isn't the one at fault for being misinterpreted.
I think you used the correct number, but wow that's a lot of embedded negations in one sentence.

I'm not sure it wouldn't be impossible to make the point without refusing to avoid using that many negations though.
fuuuuck

Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:54 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
Wee Red Bird wrote:Try mentioning the need for gun control on twitter. People you've never heard of will try to dismiss any argument you make and start making personal comments about you. You could even say that you have been surrounded by assholes. Doesn't make them the sane ones.

The people on Twitter really cover a large cross-section of society. Also a huge angry-section, a massive smugly-satisfied-section, a wide piss-taking-section, etc...

Re: 1984: "Misinterpretation"

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:57 pm UTC
by YTPrenewed
Soupspoon wrote:
Wee Red Bird wrote:Try mentioning the need for gun control on twitter. People you've never heard of will try to dismiss any argument you make and start making personal comments about you. You could even say that you have been surrounded by assholes. Doesn't make them the sane ones.

The people on Twitter really cover a large cross-section of society. Also a huge angry-section, a massive smugly-satisfied-section, a wide piss-taking-section, etc...

Doesn't matter. By failing to distance themselves from the piss-taking, smugly-satisfied, or angry, everybody else has said by their silence that they agree with all of them.