2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

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2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby WriteBrainedJR » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:33 pm UTC

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Title Text: "Younger people get very few joint replacements, yet they're also getting more than older people did at the same age. This means you can choose between 'Why are millennials getting so (many/few) joint replacements?' depending on which trend fits your current argument better."

As a Xennial who will almost certainly need knee replacements eventually (one is guaranteed, the other I might dodge if I stop walking and/or die soon enough), I have a lot to say about this comic.

1. Every Boomer and older person I know who has had knee replacements tells me to put them off for as long as I possibly can, because they're the absolute worst.

2. Xers and Millennials I know who have had knee replacements tell me that they're more good than bad, and my doctor (an orthopedic surgeon) tells me that the technology and procedures have improved significantly since the 80s and 90s, when the older people I know were getting their surgeries. So, maybe younger people are less likely to put off the surgery because it's more likely to improve their lives.

3. Millennials are (at least stereotypically) more health-conscious than the generations that came before them. Maybe that attitude has direct effects on their choice to get replacement surgeries. There could also be an indirect effect--if you're more health-conscious, you're likely to see doctors more often, which means doctors have more opportunities to suggest and/or talk you into surgery.

4. Life insurance is (was) mandatory, and joint replacement surgeries are expensive. In the past, many young people chose not to bother with health insurance because it's expensive and they figure (sometimes, but not always, correctly) that they won't need it anyway.

5. It probably says about me that the person I think of as "my doctor" is an orthopedic surgeon :lol:

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby tsarna » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:50 pm UTC

In related news, the funeral home industry is headed to crisis, as studies reveal millennials have funerals at a much lower rate than previous generations.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:06 pm UTC

Fortunately, here in Massachusetts, Millenials (and Baby Boomers) can easily get joint replacements legally, now. Initial news reports suggest millenials are purchasing them in quantity.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:38 pm UTC

I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:54 pm UTC

I still remember when the news came out that Barry Manilow was getting a hip replacement. It was probably the first time the words "hip" and "Manilow" had appeared together in the same headline.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby edo » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.


on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby WriteBrainedJR » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:16 pm UTC

edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.


on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)

Everyone has either more or fewer than the average number of legs.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:26 pm UTC

You're limiting the "leg" cohort to just humans? Depending upon how far you extend the breadth of polled creatures, I may have either more or less than the average number of legs. (Even, conceivably, exactly equal, but not because I'm a representative of the mode, or even median.)

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby RogueCynic » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:20 am UTC

tsarna wrote:In related news, the funeral home industry is headed to crisis, as studies reveal millennials have funerals at a much lower rate than previous generations.


Funeral homes are in trouble anyway. They have no repeat business like barber shops.

cellocgw wrote:Fortunately, here in Massachusetts, Millenials (and Baby Boomers) can easily get joint replacements legally, now. Initial news reports suggest millenials are purchasing them in quantity.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby da Doctah » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:39 am UTC

edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.


on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)


The average American has one breast and one testicle.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby GlassHouses » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:14 am UTC

WriteBrainedJR wrote:
edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.

on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)

Everyone has either more or fewer than the average number of legs.

That depends on how you define "number of legs" when applied to an individual. Does someone who has one leg amputated below the knee count as having one leg, or two, or something in between?

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby orthogon » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm UTC

GlassHouses wrote:
WriteBrainedJR wrote:
edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.

on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)

With probability one, everyone has either more or less than the average number of legs.

That depends on how you define "number of legs" when applied to an individual. Does someone who has one leg amputated below the knee count as having one leg, or two, or something in between?

Is that better?
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:47 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
GlassHouses wrote:
WriteBrainedJR wrote:
edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.

on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)

With probability one, everyone has either more or less than the average number of legs.

That depends on how you define "number of legs" when applied to an individual. Does someone who has one leg amputated below the knee count as having one leg, or two, or something in between?

Is that better?

It still depends on how you define "number of legs" - if it can take arbitrary real values between 0 and 2 (and maybe outside that range too) then, sure, it's almost certain that no-one has any particular number of legs (except possibly 2), but there are other ways of assigning non-integer leg counts that don't require infinitely many possible values.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby Flumble » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:40 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:(and maybe outside that range too)

Most definitely. Some of my friends keep talking about their third leg.
I doubt anyone has fewer less than 0 leg, but if you suffer from phantom pain, do you have an imaginary leg?

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:15 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:(and maybe outside that range too)

Most definitely. Some of my friends keep talking about their third leg.
I doubt anyone has fewer less than 0 leg, but if you suffer from phantom pain, do you have an imaginary leg?

Can't be, because then it would also be a real leg (possibly a negative real leg) from the frame of reference of anyone standing to either side of you and facing you.
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby ucim » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:28 am UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:Can't be, because then it would also be a real leg (possibly a negative real leg) from the frame of reference of anyone standing to either side of you and facing you.
No, that would only work if they were standing to either side in the imaginary axis dimension. This means "from the past" or "from the future". And it's not clear in any case that that's an unpermitted result.

In fact, this discovery may well win you the Nobel prize for this new method of providing new limbs to amputees.

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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby Eternal Density » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:54 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:
edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.


on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)


The average American has one breast and one testicle.
Only approximately, due to gender ratio and injury/disease effects.
Flumble wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:(and maybe outside that range too)

Most definitely. Some of my friends keep talking about their third leg.
I doubt anyone has fewer less than 0 leg, but if you suffer from phantom pain, do you have an imaginary leg?
I suffer from phantom pain, so I have an imaginary testicle.
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:54 pm UTC

RogueCynic wrote:
tsarna wrote:In related news, the funeral home industry is headed to crisis, as studies reveal millennials have funerals at a much lower rate than previous generations.


Funeral homes are in trouble anyway. They have no repeat business like barber shops.

Dunno about that - how many times have Freddie K and Kenny and Jason V died?


RogueCynic wrote:
cellocgw wrote:Fortunately, here in Massachusetts, Millenials (and Baby Boomers) can easily get joint replacements legally, now. Initial news reports suggest millenials are purchasing them in quantity.

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In Massachusetts, a hospital cannot refuse treatment if a patient cannot pay.


I think you got majorly WHOOOSHED there
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby edo » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:07 pm UTC

da Doctah wrote:
edo wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I hear people born in the 2010s have smaller feet than the national average in their home country.


on a related note: I have more than the average number of legs (and I will guess that most of you reading this do too)


The average American has one breast and one testicle.


Not extactly of course: Just shy of one testicle. Not sure on the breast, could go either way, my gut says under 1.0 though.
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Re: 2080: "Cohort and Age Effects"

Postby Pfhorrest » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:17 am UTC

I feel sorry for all of those average American families who, after having two healthy full children, only got half a child from their third pregnancy.
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