2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

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2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby jello34543 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:08 pm UTC

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Title text: The best wedge issue is an actual wedge.

I was imagining something like "The south really means it this time!" This is more like Canada trying to keep USians out.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby rmsgrey » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:20 pm UTC

I'd have thought that something that split red from blue would be more popular. At least with general voters; possibly not with people who believe that their position relies on exploiting the other colour...

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby ijuin » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:37 pm UTC

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:49 pm UTC

Are the Great Lakes the main visible mark of that failed rift?
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby DanD » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:08 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:Are the Great Lakes the main visible mark of that failed rift?


Only indirectly. The lakes are glacial formations. Much of the geology around and under the lakes, especially Superior, comes from the rift formation, and the exact shapes carved out by the glaciers are at least somewhat controlled by that, by they aren't actual rift lakes (as in being formed directly by tectonic activity).

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby da Doctah » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:53 pm UTC

DanD wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:Are the Great Lakes the main visible mark of that failed rift?


Only indirectly. The lakes are glacial formations. Much of the geology around and under the lakes, especially Superior, comes from the rift formation, and the exact shapes carved out by the glaciers are at least somewhat controlled by that, by they aren't actual rift lakes (as in being formed directly by tectonic activity).


And notice that the five US "Great Lakes" are only the southern end of a much longer string of big lakes extending through Lakes Winnipeg, Manitoba, Athabasca, Great Slave and Great Bear. (Look at a globe instead of a flat map for better perspective.)

So the rifting of North America has proceeded a lot farther than the initial comic would suggest.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:06 pm UTC

// runs to buy hectares of farmland, to be re-sold as "about to be waterfront" homes.
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Soupspoon » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:06 pm UTC

da Doctah wrote:So the rifting of North America has proceeded a lot farther than the initial comic would suggest.
…thanks to BHG's ancestors.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby pkcommando » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:59 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:// runs to buy hectares of farmland, to be re-sold as "about to be waterfront" homes.

Any plan endorsed by Lex Luthor is a plan I can get behind.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby SuicideJunkie » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:25 pm UTC

pkcommando wrote:Any plan endorsed by Lex Luthor is a plan I can get behind.

If you're going to grab a cartload, see if they have some black forest cake and make sure you get some variety.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Keyman » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:26 pm UTC

After "Lucifer's Hammer" this is probably my favorite disaster novels.

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Within minutes, there is nothing but chaos and ruin as America's heartland falls into the nightmare known as the Rift--a fault line in the earth that wrenchingly exposes the fractures in American society itself. As a strange white mist smelling of sulfur rises from the crevassed ground, the real terror begins for the survivors,
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Mikeski » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:11 am UTC

Hat slogan: Make the Great Lakes Greater! ...again.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Heimhenge » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:15 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:
DanD wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:Are the Great Lakes the main visible mark of that failed rift?


Only indirectly. The lakes are glacial formations. Much of the geology around and under the lakes, especially Superior, comes from the rift formation, and the exact shapes carved out by the glaciers are at least somewhat controlled by that, by they aren't actual rift lakes (as in being formed directly by tectonic activity).


And notice that the five US "Great Lakes" are only the southern end of a much longer string of big lakes extending through Lakes Winnipeg, Manitoba, Athabasca, Great Slave and Great Bear. (Look at a globe instead of a flat map for better perspective.)

So the rifting of North America has proceeded a lot farther than the initial comic would suggest.


I say break off everything east of the Mississippi and secede from the union to form WUSS (Western United Seceded States). And no, we would not be a wuss. :)

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby thunk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:18 am UTC

We can now extract more valuable mineral deposits from Iowa. Who needs corn anyway?
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby dtilque » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:11 am UTC

Years ago, I remember reading an SF story about a massive earth movement in the central part of the US. I'm fairly sure it was written before plate techtonics were accepted by geologists and it may have been inspired by the '64 Alaska quake.

The story didn't have characters or a plot. It was just a description of a major subsistence of land in the central US, from the Gulf Coast of Texas to S Dakota and from western Missouri to eastern Colorado. In one fell swoop, that area dropped below sea level (which would be a drop of anywhere from 2500 ft to 5000 ft) and let in the sea. So the result when the dust settled was a second Mediterranean Sea. Of course, such a subsistence is impossible.

I wish I could remember the author/title.
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby PM 2Ring » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:20 am UTC

rmsgrey wrote:I'd have thought that something that split red from blue would be more popular. At least with general voters; possibly not with people who believe that their position relies on exploiting the other colour...

There's a SB thread about that, although it doesn't involve an actual geophysical split.
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby sotanaht » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:44 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:I'd have thought that something that split red from blue would be more popular. At least with general voters; possibly not with people who believe that their position relies on exploiting the other colour...

The problem is it doesn't do that. The split goes right down the middle of the "red", doing nothing to separate it from the "blue". Meanwhile, if he were to make his platform for sending California into the sea, I'd probably be all for it.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby rmsgrey » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:21 pm UTC

sotanaht wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I'd have thought that something that split red from blue would be more popular. At least with general voters; possibly not with people who believe that their position relies on exploiting the other colour...

The problem is it doesn't do that. The split goes right down the middle of the "red", doing nothing to separate it from the "blue". Meanwhile, if he were to make his platform for sending California into the sea, I'd probably be all for it.


Sorry, my wording was ambiguous. For "something", read "some other division".

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Sableagle » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:22 pm UTC

sotanaht wrote:Meanwhile, if he were to make his platform for sending California into the sea, I'd probably be all for it.

You're workin' on it, alright? You're workin' on it.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:20 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:
sotanaht wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I'd have thought that something that split red from blue would be more popular. At least with general voters; possibly not with people who believe that their position relies on exploiting the other colour...

The problem is it doesn't do that. The split goes right down the middle of the "red", doing nothing to separate it from the "blue". Meanwhile, if he were to make his platform for sending California into the sea, I'd probably be all for it.


Sorry, my wording was ambiguous. For "something", read "some other division".

Didn't they already try that? Not physically, but politically at least. I thought congress and the US military disagreed.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby RAGBRAIvet » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:21 pm UTC

I see BHG is channelling Archimedes ... Δώσε μου μια θέση να σταθώ, και θα μετακινήσω τη γη.
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Jorpho » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:19 pm UTC

da Doctah wrote:
DanD wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:Are the Great Lakes the main visible mark of that failed rift?


Only indirectly. The lakes are glacial formations. Much of the geology around and under the lakes, especially Superior, comes from the rift formation, and the exact shapes carved out by the glaciers are at least somewhat controlled by that, by they aren't actual rift lakes (as in being formed directly by tectonic activity).


And notice that the five US "Great Lakes" are only the southern end of a much longer string of big lakes extending through Lakes Winnipeg, Manitoba, Athabasca, Great Slave and Great Bear. (Look at a globe instead of a flat map for better perspective.)

It's the edge of the Canadian Shield, isn't it? Can't say I was previously familiar with the idea that it was actually a potential rift.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Dave Rogers » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:43 pm UTC

dtilque wrote:Years ago, I remember reading an SF story about a massive earth movement in the central part of the US. I'm fairly sure it was written before plate techtonics were accepted by geologists and it may have been inspired by the '64 Alaska quake.

The story didn't have characters or a plot. It was just a description of a major subsistence of land in the central US, from the Gulf Coast of Texas to S Dakota and from western Missouri to eastern Colorado. In one fell swoop, that area dropped below sea level (which would be a drop of anywhere from 2500 ft to 5000 ft) and let in the sea. So the result when the dust settled was a second Mediterranean Sea. Of course, such a subsistence is impossible.

I wish I could remember the author/title.


The_Great_Nebraska_Sea, Allan Danzig. I have it in an anthology somewhere. It's a great story.

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby dtilque » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:37 pm UTC

Dave Rogers wrote:
dtilque wrote:Years ago, I remember reading an SF story about a massive earth movement in the central part of the US. I'm fairly sure it was written before plate techtonics were accepted by geologists and it may have been inspired by the '64 Alaska quake.

The story didn't have characters or a plot. It was just a description of a major subsistence of land in the central US, from the Gulf Coast of Texas to S Dakota and from western Missouri to eastern Colorado. In one fell swoop, that area dropped below sea level (which would be a drop of anywhere from 2500 ft to 5000 ft) and let in the sea. So the result when the dust settled was a second Mediterranean Sea. Of course, such a subsistence is impossible.

I wish I could remember the author/title.


The_Great_Nebraska_Sea, Allan Danzig. I have it in an anthology somewhere. It's a great story.

Dave


Thank you. I figured someone would know it. Looks like it was published the year before the Alaska quake, so that wasn't an inspiration.
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:22 pm UTC

dtilque wrote:Looks like it was published the year before the Alaska quake, so that wasn't an inspiration.
Or it was, but the other way round!?!

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby mfc » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:17 am UTC

Can anyone explain the 'So am I. So am I' in the final panel? I'm not from the USA ...

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby dtilque » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:54 pm UTC

mfc wrote:Can anyone explain the 'So am I. So am I' in the final panel? I'm not from the USA ...


Electoral polls are usually done state by state. What the advisor is saying is that BHG's support among voters in several states in central part of the country is lower than expected, i.e. "weakness in the Midwest". BHG is agreeing with that, but his agreement is based on the physics of the rifts. That is, he's referring to the weakness in the Earth's crust in the Midwest.


So have I sufficiently killed this joke?
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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby jpers36 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:00 pm UTC

SuicideJunkie wrote:
pkcommando wrote:Any plan endorsed by Lex Luthor is a plan I can get behind.

If you're going to grab a cartload, see if they have some black forest cake and make sure you get some variety.


Like forty cakes? 40 cakes? As many as four tens?

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Re: 2103: "Midcontinent Rift System"

Postby Archgeek » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:15 pm UTC

jpers36 wrote:
SuicideJunkie wrote:
pkcommando wrote:Any plan endorsed by Lex Luthor is a plan I can get behind.

If you're going to grab a cartload, see if they have some black forest cake and make sure you get some variety.


Like forty cakes? 40 cakes? As many as four tens?

That sounds terrible!
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