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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby william » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:26 am UTC

aerojad wrote:Also, women on the internets? Who knew :o

I actually think the Gateworld fora were mostly women. I stayed away from the shipping forum though so I don't know the exact ratio.
podbaydoor wrote:Also, I'm not so much complaining as wondering what makes girls so frightening or puzzling to some nerds.

Understanding women is more complex than quantum physics.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Moo » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:27 am UTC

williamager, I used to work in the White Lion hotel in Aldeburgh a lifetime ago! I hated it :x
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby flashfrozen » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:28 am UTC

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FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU FOR NOT ONLY MAKING ME lose twenty dollars and my self respect BUT MAKING ME HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT I LOST IT.



I know ain't I just a stinker :) any who I am a firm beaver that there are no humans on the internet and all posts are made by an insane dog kennel some were in lower Arkansas. to all of you prove me wrong of gtfo. (no my post dosen't count I know I am a Utahraptor from the 85century CE.)
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby FFF8E7 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:30 am UTC

Domovoi wrote:Agreed, but toolej has a point. If some girl joined a forum and her first post would be "Hey guys, I'm a girl!!!", then sorry, but you -want- to be treated as a special case. I don't go into clubs announcing that "Hey women, I'm a -man-!" either. If I did, then I deserve all the ribbing I get, because apparently I want to be singled out and point attention to my gender.


You wouldn't go into a club announcing that because you don't have to. Now, let's say that you've been to various clubs before, and every time, most of the people assume that you are a woman. One could easily be tempted to start announcing it in such a case. I'd say most of the girls announcing that they're girls are doing so not looking for special treatment, but just wanting people to have an accurate idea of their gender, which might otherwise be assumed to be male. Maybe they're tired of having to correct people and just want it to be clear from the start.

At any rate, I don't think I tend to see too much of this in civilized parts of the internets. Where I do see it, it's pretty much in the same places where they'll insult and demean anyone about anything. (I go there largely to troll the trolls: wait for someone to call me a faggot, and then happily respond that I am and dump a bunch of sexy gay porn images on them.) I guess there is some amount of it in gaming-related communities and such though...

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby schrodingersduck » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:31 am UTC

johnnynoknuckles wrote:This is one of the few xkcd comics I disagree with. If you're on the internet, you will be trolled; demanding pics is merely a common tactic, right up there with racial epithets and religion-bashing. Sorry, girls, but you don't get a free ride just because you're female.

Of course, upon rereading the comic, it seems that it's more directed toward the people who do it without the intention of trolling the target, thus voiding my post, but if I went to the trouble of making an account just to post one thing then I'm damn well going to post that one thing.


A lot of people seem to miss that she wasn't going IRC to chat or flirt or whatever - she was there to get help with Java. Even if you do think that there is sometimes an appropriate time and place for online sexism, surely it's not at an online helpdesk; it's just like how you may put up with this sort of idiocy in a club, but would be somewhat taken aback if a librarian asked for pictures when you tried to take out a book.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby mybadluck22 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:51 am UTC

At my school, I don't think I've ever met an interesting girl in one of my programming classes. I had a highschool c++ class, and there were several girls in it. Unfortunately, the class was used as an overflow class from PE, so the girls who were in the class were not too bright or passionate about computers. Regardless, at any convention, I feel a little weird going up to girls to talk to them. I always think that they must get so many people talking to them just because they're girls that they wouldn't care to have more of it. However, perhaps I am incorrect. Anyway, I'm sure they exist, but I haven't met many if any girl programmers that I enjoy talking to much. Oh well!

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby zenten » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:55 am UTC

elminster wrote:Almost all destructive emp devices come in the form of a bomb for several reason. Although a gun would be pretty sweet.
In my first year at uni, the male to female ratio in my computer science class was about 19:1. Personally i never noticed them being alone that oftern and the ones i did talk to seem socialable.
Although i still have reservations about the number of female hardcore gamers, i just can't see them being that enthuisastic about it (dispite knowing several). Also, a good portion of them turn out to be males doing it for the free items or something... i've seen that far more than enough. The number of "hey will you be my GF?" or "You a girl?" i've seen as well is ridiculous, when im standing around in a game an see that comes up now, i just sigh.


Maybe a lot of the women on it pretend to be guys so they don't get harassed?

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Cctoide » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:39 am UTC

Personally, I doubt she'd ever get to the "tits or gtfo"* phase, assuming this is a Freenode language channel. She'd be halfway buried in fanboyism and language wars by the time the subject of her gender came up.

* which, by the way, can be used ironically

Edit: re. the response to this comic on other IRC channels... I've never used "tits or gtfo" seriously or think very highly of it or a number of other things, but this strip annoyed me a bit because it leaves me going "well, you didn't have to take it that seriously". It ends up reading, for me, as more of a piss-take than commentary on a frequent situation, like some other strips on internet "issues".
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby SteveMB » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:53 am UTC

Wolf wrote:I love the girl's cannon.


PIX PLZ!!

(Of the cannon, of course.)

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Moo » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:02 am UTC

mybadluck22 wrote:Anyway, I'm sure they exist, but I haven't met many if any girl programmers that I enjoy talking to much. Oh well!

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Minerva » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:04 am UTC

rxninja wrote:EMP cannon ftfw. Do want..so very badly.

Any hardcore engineers know what would have to go into making one on a small scale?


Well, simply put, there's no such thing as an EMP cannon. Something like an explosively pumped flux compression generator ("flux compressor") will generate an EMP, but it's not directed, it's more like an EMP grenade or bomb.

What you want, at least as far as real-world things go, is a HERF gun - a directed, high-power, RF transmitter, essentially.

This can be as simple as the magnetron and associated HV power supply from your household microwave oven, mounted in a new metal enclosure with appropriate power supply and a 2.45 GHz microwave horn antenna mounted on the magnetron.

http://web.archive.org/web/200702100343 ... ry/mag.htm

http://www.powerlabs.org/uwavexp.htm

http://www.powerlabs.org/images/uwhorn.jpg

With an appropriate horn antenna, such a contraption will effectively "cook" electronics over a distance. It'll also cook biological systems (or dinner) effectively at a distance, so play safe.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby jtniehof » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:35 am UTC

nyeguy wrote:I do it clearly sarcastically so it is obvious it is a joke.

Is it? Sarcasm comes across pretty poorly in text, and frankly it's not the kind of joke that makes sense to play on someone the instant you meet them....

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Dft » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:42 am UTC

>Understanding women is more complex than quantum physics.
No.
Why:
1) "Understanding people is more complex than quantum physics." Fix'd. Women xor men are not a homogeneous group, they're not special like that and the sentence is more true using "people" than either gender, as if that would be some exclusive trait. A guy'll have a lot easier relating to their female classmate than some guy halfway across the globe who's deeply immersed in completely different customs and way of looking at life. People read themselves into blank/similar canvases because that's how we learn to guess how the world works and functions around us - by comparing it to ourselves and our experiences.
2) People far too often assume that someone who looks like them will think like them. "Oh hey that's Bob, Bob's like me! That there woman has boobs, and is the object of my desires! I like the things I associate with my stereotype of women. I like the differences between her and me! I like to think of them a lot! Mmm... Soft. Bob must be a lot more like me in mind than that significantly different lovely creature." (you can easily just reverse the genders etc in the sentence, that sentence is too often too true) People often focus too much on the differences when they're easily seen. Would you be surprised if you discovered a (random same gender as you) goth was very much like you, except for being fond of dressing that way? If someone who looked and acted a lot like you have very little in common with you apart from that? The problem isn't as much doing this, as doing this without realizing that one does it.
People are too horribly ignorant about themselves most of the time, which smudges off on everyone else.


Also, "O HAI GUYS, LOOK AT MY TITS! AM I PRETTY? <3" posts quickly would die out, if it weren't for the idiots who give these attention vampires their supply of attention, seeing how both negative and positive attention feeds them. If someone goes "O HAI I'M SPESHUL GIVE ME ATTENTION", the correct response to these (intentional/unintentional) trolls is to promptly ignore the attentionwhoring. If they have a legit problem they need help with, but just keep going on about how they're a guy or a female too, answer the legit question and pay zero attention to anything else. If they keep going on about their gender or ability or whatever, point out how this doesn't matter for you. If they just keep on being annoying, inform them of their mistake and give them a warning and chance to behave like civilized people, but otherwise don't feed their behavior and carry on like usual. If they haven't learned, ban them from posting for a time period. Give them some time to reflect on their actions. People who feed the troll are as bad as the troll and should be given the same treatment: information, warning, tempban. That's what happens in real life.
Playing the pronoun game isn't not drawing attention to ones gender, blatantly shouting at someone else for using a less "common" pronoun is.
Compare, had it been an IRL scenario:
Woman walks into a library, people look at her and assume she's a female based on her looks. Suddenly some of the people in the room go "WHAT?! A GIRL! NO WAY YOU'VE GOTTA BE A GUY! SHOW US YOUR TITS! WHAT WE THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT YOU ARE AND WE TRY TO DENY YOU THE RIGHT OF BEING YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO VALIDATE YOUR EXISTENCE TO US AND WE WILL PESTER YOU UNTIL YOU EITHER COMPLY OR GO AWAY!" - Who's the loser, the woman who was foolish enough to not do male drag, or the few asshats that think the validation of their world view is more important than the rest of the world(, or the people who idly and quietly sit by and let people act this stupid)?

hm.. Sorry about the rant. This comic just hit a sore spot. I have a hate for these idiots, who not at all are exclusively male. There are girls who keep shouting at guys to post nudes. Bah. (in some dark corners of the intarwebs where the females outnumber the men, this does indeed happen way too often, do not for a second think that either gender is better than the other, for the gender itself isn't.) This might be a bit too incoherent. I probably need coffee. Or sleep. Or both. Sorry.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby LassLisa » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:50 am UTC

So, there's a big difference between "Hay guyz I'm a GURL!" and having a feminine username. Like, if someone has their first name in their user name. "Jon736" does not, as a rule of thumb, get the same trolling messages that "Ann736" does. There was an interesting study done on this using bots with feminine, masculine, and nongendered names, and while all got spam and such the bots with feminine names got additional, extra harassing. Unfortunately I have to run and can't find the study, but I'll try to post it later.

Point: Having to hide everything about your identity and pretend to be someone else in order to not get harassed constantly is NOT the sort of thing that encourages one to stick around.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby tessuraea » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:51 am UTC

toolej wrote:Back on topic. I don't go around IRC announcing I'm a guy. I do put up with trolling, so does everyone - if you have a girly name or tell people you're a girl, you're opening yourself up and its up to you to deal with the consequences. Everyone gets shit on the internet, why are girls special? If I were a girl I'd just suck it up or simply not announce I was female and allow guys to presume what they wanted.


Yes, and black people should pretend to be white, and gay people should pretend to be straight, and poor people should pretend to be wealthy. Then we can all hang out in the HUGE FREAKING CLOSET together, and the internet can belong to the rich white men who don't have to pretend.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby EpeeGnome » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:01 am UTC

Minerva wrote:This can be as simple as the magnetron and associated HV power supply from your household microwave oven, mounted in a new metal enclosure with appropriate power supply and a 2.45 GHz microwave horn antenna mounted on the magnetron.

I was thinking the same thing, but didn't have a chance to find appropriate sites. I've seen one where a guy built one of these and used it to open his neihbor's garage door from 75-100 feet away. Definatly not the most responsable use of the thing, but it was fascinating. (And yes those things can cook people, so don't get one if you don't know what you're doing.)
On the social side of things, yes, a lot of men are jerks. Anonymity encourages speaking your mind. Add the two together and thats what you get. Fortuantly, I was raised to be polite to women, but that is (apperently) often not the case.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby sunami » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:10 am UTC

toolej wrote:I read an excellent article once about how statistically it is in a female's best interest to stay "normal", and a male's best interest to break from the norm and be "special". I wish I could find that article!


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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:19 am UTC

Cctoide wrote:* which, by the way, can be used ironically


Anything can be used ironically.

It's just most of them aren't funny.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Nyerguds » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:24 am UTC

Hehe. I for one don't have a single problem accepting the existence of women on the internet - heck, my sister just graduated as civil engineer in computer sciences.

I have had situations on IRC where I say something about someone calling the person "him", and I'm corrected by someone saying "dude, she's a girl."
No one seems to have any problem with that. I must be frequenting only more mature IRC channels :)

well, I couldn't tell she was a girl, because all of what she was typing was eventually concluded to be one of her cats walking/sitting on the keyboard :P

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:33 am UTC

Jesster, will you ever learn?

Nyerguds wrote:Hehe. I for one don't have a single problem accepting naked pictures from women on the internet - heck, my sister just posted some.


and then I got with the two of you. I think her name is Debra.

However, I'm perplexed with hat guy being the policticaly sensitive one. Isn't he usually the witty duche bag?
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Phoenix » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:37 am UTC

I love today's comic!! (Tee please?) Being a girl on the internet, I have encountered people like that, and it _is_ them who make me stay away from certain parts of the internet. I have heard 'Oh me yarm, y're a grrl? Prove it, ya perv! Pix, now!' too often. Since I changed my nick, I get it less often, somehow 'Phoenix' sounds more feminine I suppose.

I don't consider myself to be a geekgirl (I'm not smart or original enough to be one, although my geekBF disagrees, but he's biased) but I do hang out on some forums, IRC-channels and gamesites. Luckily, I've found a few where women are actually the majority. Yay for women on the web! And also yay! for guys who treat me like I'm human and not some rare species. Yes, there are quite a lot of you as well!

Personally, I avoid/ignore places/people like portrayed in the comic. But hurray! for black hat guy and Girl Wonder Joanna :)


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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Teshi » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:42 am UTC

Even if I don't get harassed for being a girl I've often discovered that after being "outed" as a genuine female in a male-dominated internet community- something that is always accompanied by some form of "You're really a girl?" question- I get treated differently from how I was previously treated. Sometimes negatively, sometimes positively.

Also, I have often skirted hinting at my gender in order to avoid the complications that being a girl often brings- such as noticeably increased interest, which can be really annoying.

So yeah, this rings true.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:49 am UTC

CatProximity wrote:However, I'm perplexed with hat guy being the policticaly sensitive one. Isn't he usually the witty duche bag?


It is quite possible to be a dick about enforcing good standards of behaviour.

It is known as the "behave yourself or I'll forcefeed you scorpions and stitch your face shut" school of societal change.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby space_raptor » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:51 am UTC

I have asked for boob pictures as a joke, as in, I don't really expect to get boob pictures. I'll try not to do it anymore, but sometimes I'm not thinking straight.

I don't call women bitches or whores, nor do I disbelieve that they're girls. I instantly lose respect for any guy that does do that. I do my best to defend the ladies who get abuse for no reason, I just figure they'd like to know that somebody else thinks these guys are morons too.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby circumlocuted » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:52 am UTC

A big strength of online communication is that it can be gender-neutral, and people can be judged solely on their behavior and knowledge.

Also, I am not trying to "blame the victim" or anything, but I think some women bring this on themselves by clearly defining themselves and trying to draw attention to themselves.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Dft » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:54 am UTC

EpeeGnome wrote: Fortuantly, I was raised to be polite to women, but that is (apperently) often not the case.

Please tell me you meant to say you were raised to be polite to people, not treating women as some special exception. Because the latter tends to very much be a part of the problem. Relative anonymity = can get away with not having to do the things one is made to do irl. If a person has been taught they have to act unproportionally different to someone even with their needs taken into consideration, they might enjoy rebelling against that (if they find it an annoyance normally) when they have a chance to with no ill consequence on their daily lives.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Moo » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:01 am UTC

Dft wrote:
EpeeGnome wrote: Fortuantly, I was raised to be polite to women, but that is (apperently) often not the case.

Please tell me you meant to say you were raised to be polite to people, not treating women as some special exception.


I'm pretty sure EpeeGnome meant "I was raised to be polite to people including women whom I mention here by name since that is what is relevant to the discussion", rather than being rude to other people and only polite to women "as some special exception".

Being treated as an equal doesn't necessarily mean being treated exactly the same. As I woman I expect the former, but it would be a sad world if the latter were the case.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby figgisfiddis » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:09 am UTC

I have to say this is the first time I've disagreed with a comic here (ZOMG HERETIC)... no rly.

I rarely do the whole "TITS or GTFO" thing (only towards girls I know that frequent the same retarded websites that I do), mostly because it's old, and I usually don't care if theres a chick online or not. I hate to be presumptuous, but I'm fairly sure many other guys (not relating to WoW CS or Linux) don't really care all that much either.

Someone that does nothing but say "no girls on the internet" or "pix plox" every time one shows up somewhere isn't an asshole, they're just a sad unoriginal person that didn't realize those jokes were old over 5 years ago. It was probably one of the first things said when a secretary in the military sent a message across the US during the birth of the thing that became the internet.

To those of you acting all overly-chivalrous, I used to too, but I've stopped putting them on pedestals, and have started treating them as equal humans :p

Funny story before I go: I got quite a lot of free stuff when I created a female character on the UO server I play on. Granted, all the stuff I got was shit, and I had a character that could make those things better, but the idea of the thought process that went through some of the kids heads that were doing that made me chuckle.

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Postby MLO » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:26 am UTC

Yup, that's about right.
I'd post more details but I really don't want to make myself angry.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:36 am UTC

Belial wrote:
CatProximity wrote:However, I'm perplexed with hat guy being the policticaly sensitive one. Isn't he usually the witty duche bag?


It is quite possible to be a dick about enforcing good standards of behaviour.

It is known as the "behave yourself or I'll forcefeed you scorpions and stitch your face shut" school of societal change.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby ERTW » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:42 am UTC

This comic is so unrealistic. Do you really think that guy would be able to verbalize his desire to date Joanna with a girl in the room? :roll:

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby dracolytch » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:50 am UTC

Understanding women is more complex than quantum physics.


Stop trying to understand women on different terms than you understand men. Once you realize that people of the [insert any group different than yourself, in this case: opposite gender] are fundamentally pretty similar to yourself, you will be able to relate, communicate, and understand these individuals better.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Pxtl » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:57 am UTC

Quick note: if you're the guy in the forum who tries to heroically "come to the rescue" of the pics plz girl, and tries to fight off every negative thing that is said towards her: you're not fooling anyone.

Treat women the way you treat men - whether we're the same or not (which you'll argue until the cows come home) it's simply the best personal policy. The ones who expect to be treated like princesses and let themselves be "more complicated then quantum physics" aren't worth your time anyways.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:07 pm UTC

Pxtl wrote:Quick note: if you're the guy in the forum who tries to heroically "come to the rescue" of the pics plz girl, and tries to fight off every negative thing that is said towards her: you're not fooling anyone.


Expecting to be treated like another person is not expecting special treatment.

Expecting another person to be treated like another person is not putting them on a pedestal.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Meraki » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:09 pm UTC

toolej wrote:A lot of people would say that you cannot really tell a girls personality just by meeting them on the internet, to that I say, you already know several things - 1. The girl is technical enough to join an IRC server. 2. The girl is open minded and individual enough to branch out into the more male dominated aspects of life. Two things that I admire and respect more than things like her favourite colour or body language or whatever the hell else. Is it so wrong to be attracted to another person over the internets?

It's not at all wrong to like someone else over the internet - in fact, I've heard before that over the internet what you get is the person's pure personality, untouched by concerns like physical features or clothing tastes. But when you're attracted to someone, no matter whather it's online or off-, going up to them and saying, "Let me see you naked haha" is usually not going to get you anywhere.

toolej wrote:Back on topic. I don't go around IRC announcing I'm a guy. I do put up with trolling, so does everyone - if you have a girly name or tell people you're a girl, you're opening yourself up and its up to you to deal with the consequences. Everyone gets shit on the internet, why are girls special? If I were a girl I'd just suck it up or simply not announce I was female and allow guys to presume what they wanted.

Nope. Girls aren't "supposed to be" special. We're people. Deal with it.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:15 pm UTC

Nope. Girls aren't "supposed to be" special. We're people. Deal with it.
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Exactly. People are saying that it's just the treatment everyone else gets, but I don't see most guys sprouting a circle of dedicated homonculus retards harassing them everywhere they go on the internet until they leave.

What's even more annoying is that, even outside shitholes like 4chan and LueLinks, this is seen as acceptable or witty behaviour when other forms of idiocy would not be.

Thus, the thrust of the comic.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby space_raptor » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:16 pm UTC

dracolytch wrote:
Understanding women is more complex than quantum physics.


Stop trying to understand women on different terms than you understand men. Once you realize that people of the [insert any group different than yourself, in this case: opposite gender] are fundamentally pretty similar to yourself, you will be able to relate, communicate, and understand these individuals better.

~D


Man, you must be talking to different women than me.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:18 pm UTC

CatProximity wrote:Oh me yarm...you're the guy with that hat! (why has this never occured to me before)


Actually, the Hat Guy is Aram, from Men In Hats.

But I definitely identify.
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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Gloria » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:20 pm UTC

It's not confined to saying "Oh me yarm PIX PLZ" -- which is more on the extreme end of practises. Sometimes it's an issue of general atmosphere. I go to, say, a gadget site, populated mostly by men, and there's often unnecessary attention on women's bodies. Posts include photos with the most tenuous ties to the topic ... or I'm trying to find smart discussion on design, and half the thread is talking about how great the tits on the model holding the phone/camera/computer are.

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Re: "Pix plz" Discussion

Postby Gloria » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:21 pm UTC

dracolytch wrote:
Understanding women is more complex than quantum physics.


Stop trying to understand women on different terms than you understand men. Once you realize that people of the [insert any group different than yourself, in this case: opposite gender] are fundamentally pretty similar to yourself, you will be able to relate, communicate, and understand these individuals better.

~D


Thank you. I've been trying to tell people this forever. As someone pointed out earlier, surely I'd have a harder time understanding a woman from another country than a man from my own.


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