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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby superiority » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:46 am UTC

1337geek wrote:If he's not an xkcd fan, I wish I could see the look on his face.

Not likely. Read the description.
Scholar604, in the description, wrote:Guaranteed to make the world a weirder place.

And from the buyer's feedback page:
The Seller wrote:Fast payment, in for a great surprise!

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby fizzypixels » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:04 am UTC

TLP wrote:I haven't laughed this much in a while.

The bobcat noise "MRROWLLL" is just perfect.


Seconded. I was sitting here sniggering at that for a good ten minutes.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby madjo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:18 am UTC

That eBay offer was done by two xkcd fans.

Starting time: Oct-04-07 21:56:16 PDT
Ended: Oct-04-07 22:14:11 PDT

Also delivery was mighty fast. :) (Also on Oct 4th)


BTW, I laughed, but my colleagues didn't get it.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby User? What User? » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:29 am UTC

Wow, the best I ever managed was "package arrived 3 months late... would buy again" after having forgotten to give feedback for (surprise surprise) three months

I think I'm going to have to start posting more weird feedback that is still within reason..."package contained real life dwarf, not model as suggested - would buy again" "chair eaten by termites in transit, would not buy again"
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby elminster » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:51 am UTC

Yuefairchild wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300158350152

Uh-oh...

So if you have say 1/33 chance to have 97%,
Theres just over 14million items on ebay.com atm of which around 21k are chairs (lets assume 2k of those are office chairs), about 1/7000.
The chances of someone saying it would make it a weirder place, god knows (1/20mill?)
Chances of someone responding with an reply that has the effect of going to be surpirsed or possible implications that packet may contain something other than expected, god knows (1/500k, people say they expect things to be other than expected to be happier when it arrives).
Factor that represents dissimilarities to comic - Doesn't say it recieved bobcat or would not buy again, although you have to ballance that against the comment being made prior to arrival of item.

33*7000*20000000*500000/[Factor that represents dissimilarities to comic] = 1/Some very low chance.

Given that the auction actually finished at Oct-04-07 22:14:11 PDT, and the comic is released at a close time (dunno what hour), I think statistically I think something about that must be related to comic.

Edit: Also take into account the possible similar situations that make occour that would give you equal surprise. That makes it more of an absolute value, in the sense that looking at one case not in relation to others isn't statistically significant because your basing that value on your emotion of surprise and not proportions of times that you could be surprised.

Edit: Its now
"INSTEAD OF OFFICE CHAIR, PACKAGE CONTAINED BOBCAT. WOULD BUY AGAIN. A--"
o lol :D
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Ran » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:17 am UTC

I laughed until I was crying.

I wish I could find more people to show it to, but waking them up now for the comic would be awkward.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Doug » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:58 am UTC

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... 0158350152

"INSTEAD OF OFFICE CHAIR, PACKAGE CONTAINED BOBCAT. WOULD BUY AGAIN. A--"

I love it...

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby uber_user » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:44 am UTC

would buy again, a bobcat for ten bucks is a bargain! :mrgreen:

A+++ for the comic!

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby EpeeGnome » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:52 am UTC

Looking at the last panel, and all the damage done made me think, "aww, poor cat. I wonder if it escaped ok."

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby BobCat » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:00 pm UTC

Yeah, I'm safely back in the forest now.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby madjo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:22 pm UTC

Hmm, I was more sorry for the buyer...
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby fatduck » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:35 pm UTC

A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMIC

VERY PROFESSIONAL AND PROMPT POSTING!!!!!!!

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby plasticsuperhero » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:52 pm UTC

DigitalMeatball wrote:
Ayelis wrote:It's very well possible that he put in a completely normal housecat, and the act of shipping the cat turned it into a bobcat. It is also possible that this is one of those Schrodinger's Box scenarios. He could have put in a ferret and it would have metamorphosed into a bobcat. That's called Quantum Mechanics!
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Um, actually that has nothing to do with the Schrodinger cat experiment. Since the cat was observed before being put into the box, there is certainty that the cat is a cat. Add a completely sound-proof, sense-proof box with a random beta decay and a contraption to kill the cat, then you've got some uncertainty of life or death.

As soon as I saw the cat and the box I thought for sure it was going to reference Schrodinger, but no luck. Oh well, it's overdone anyway.


Ah, but you're assuming the box didn't interact with other, outwardly identical boxes while in the postal system. If the boxes are indistinguishable, what comes out is a superposition of the two boxes!

I would calculate the probability, but I'm not sure if the ferret is spin 1/2, and the feynman diagram of a bobcat is kind of tricky to draw....

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby FerretBoson » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:03 pm UTC

plasticsuperhero wrote:Ah, but you're assuming the box didn't interact with other, outwardly identical boxes while in the postal system. If the boxes are indistinguishable, what comes out is a superposition of the two boxes!

I would calculate the probability, but I'm not sure if the ferret is spin 1/2, and the feynman diagram of a bobcat is kind of tricky to draw....


Actually, I'm pretty sure ferrets are bosons and hence would have integer spin.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Mugwump » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:10 pm UTC

Fantastic comic today. But shouldn't the buyer in the last panel have been sitting on boxes or something? I mean, why would he buy an office chair if he already had one?

Here's to make the world weirder! Even if it is simply your ebay feedback page.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby EpeeGnome » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:16 pm UTC

Mugwump wrote:... But shouldn't the buyer in the last panel have been sitting on boxes or something? I mean, why would he buy an office chair if he already had one? ...

Clearly he is sitting in a kitchen chair. I have such a chair at my desk, and would definitely purchase an office chair if I had the spare cash.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby KevorkianKat » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:00 pm UTC

This comic made me think of the time I went camping with a friend and his wife. It was more or less a camper pad but we had a tent anyway. During dinner (nighttime) we were cooking and an animal we couldn't see came toward us. His wife immediately screamed with pure adrenaline induced fright,"IT'S A BOBCAT!".

The nice normal sized black cat looked at her like she was from outer space and then stole a piece of chicken from our plate and ran off. Our new favorite saying when surprised by anything is now "It's a bobcat!" or when asked what she wants for her birthday, my wife aptly replied "a bobcat".

You'd be surprised at how easily bobcats fit into your everyday language if you try :)

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby b.i.o » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:04 pm UTC

Brilliant. Definitely one of the best in a long time.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby hestia » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:29 pm UTC

Hehe, wow. I basically lost it when it got to the end of the last frame.

Sadly I am in the library so all I could do was chuckle under my breath.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Moo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:29 pm UTC

KevorkianKat wrote:You'd be surprised at how easily bobcats fit into your everyday language if you try :)

Really? I had no bobcat! I'll have to try it.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:36 pm UTC

I can only assume, due to the way this joke has changed in the transition to a comic, that a box full of jumping spiders was too hard to draw....
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby madjo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:50 pm UTC

Belial wrote:I can only assume, due to the way this joke has changed in the transition to a comic, that a box full of jumping spiders was too hard to draw....

Red spiders don't belong in the box. Whereas it's only natural for cats. :)
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby 3li » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:06 pm UTC

haha, I usually post weird feedback. some examples:

Sent money faster than a speeding bullet. Literally

Very fast payer, timed at 49 seconds.

sent money right away. Could probably beat me at Chess.

This buyer almost makes up for the NHL lockout this season!

very fast, great packaging, even sings a song if you call!

i hope you enjoy your coffee maker *wink wink*

lots of passion, will take ebay to new heights

fast payer, always in a good mood

if this seller was an ice cream flavour, it would be watermelon! amazing!!! A+++

Great Trader, if your ever in town you can drop by for tea

Excellent seller, if there was an award show for ebay, i would nominate

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby mable » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:33 pm UTC

Love the comic, only just managed to stay silent in the office.
Then read scholar's ebay listing and lost it.

Btw, unstoppable nerd-compulsion forced me to check by calculator that 100*29/30 really is 97 to nearest whole number, even though I knew that it would be (empirical law of Randallness). At least I can't work it out instantly in my head.

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby OneLess » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:36 pm UTC

EpeeGnome wrote:
Mugwump wrote:... But shouldn't the buyer in the last panel have been sitting on boxes or something? I mean, why would he buy an office chair if he already had one? ...

Clearly he is sitting in a kitchen chair. I have such a chair at my desk, and would definitely purchase an office chair if I had the spare cash.

On top of that, his kitchen chair's back has a kind of awkward angle, which I personally think looks uncomfortable. Maybe after he kills that bobcat he can use it as padding :)
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby foolscap » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:41 pm UTC

I love the way Hat Guy's hat sits askew when he's struggling with the bob-cat!

You know, I think I'd rather have a bob cat than a chair any day of the week...
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:48 pm UTC

nice SN Steve Zissou.

One of the more Old-skool XKCD's in awhile. It makes me happy.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby UltramaticOrange » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:57 pm UTC

when looking for luggage to use on the honeymoon, my wife and I ran across this comment

"when i got it transformed into a boar and destroyed my house and family, i am now homeless :("
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby BobCat » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:14 pm UTC

Maybe after he kills that bobcat he can use it as padding :)


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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Flying Betty » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:18 pm UTC

And then there's this, which may be the best ebay feedback ever. A teaser quote: "I am a walrus. I type using my flippers. Hee."
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby wes » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:55 pm UTC

Steve Zissou wrote:An interesting Ikea experiment, perhaps?

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/03/2 ... -required/

Also, I was under the impression that the general English rule of when to write numbers and when to use digits in a sentence was to write numbers out if less than 100 or at the beginning of the sentence, and to use digits if greater...? (the alt-text)

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby schrodingersduck » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:53 pm UTC

wes wrote:
Steve Zissou wrote:An interesting Ikea experiment, perhaps?

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/03/2 ... -required/

Also, I was under the impression that the general English rule of when to write numbers and when to use digits in a sentence was to write numbers out if less than 100 or at the beginning of the sentence, and to use digits if greater...? (the alt-text)


Not really - any number larger than about 10 (or ten) looks funny when written out in full, and of course, a percentage seems just plain odd written out (ninety-seven percent vs 97%). The second part is true, although for large numbers, it's better to rearrange the sentence ("Four hundred and sixty-three thousand nine hundred and eighty-eight people signed the petition" vs. "The petition was signed by 463,988 people"). And of course, many browsers don't like long image alt-texts (unpatched Firefox for example), so Randall is forced to try to trim the alt-text down to make it easier to read. Brevity is... wit.

(Note that the only free style guide I can find is the Wikipedia one, which is not ideal, but it is largely based on the Chicago Style Guide, the most prominent one in America)

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby cathrl » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:00 pm UTC

I presumed the chair he was sitting on was the office chair he'd been correctly sent, and he was "returning" a bobcat to the seller.

Though I doubt very much you could carry on doing this one time in 30. A 97% feedback rating is pretty dire for ebay. People will check why your feedback's that low. "Moron buyer sent live cat back to me in the post!" type negatives, and they simply won't trade with you.

I still laughed :lol:

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Guybrush » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:05 pm UTC

cathrl wrote:I presumed the chair he was sitting on was the office chair he'd been correctly sent, and he was "returning" a bobcat to the seller.

Though I doubt very much you could carry on doing this one time in 30. A 97% feedback rating is pretty dire for ebay. People will check why your feedback's that low. "Moron buyer sent live cat back to me in the post!" type negatives, and they simply won't trade with you.

I still laughed :lol:

But if they noticed that it only happened every 30 buyers, they could time it so they wouldn't be sent the cat. Right?
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Princess_Shauna » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:19 pm UTC

Geekthras wrote:Or you could auction off a bobcat on ebay and send them an office chair.


wow...I might just do that...see how many responses I actually get :P

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby cephalopod9 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:42 pm UTC

I was expecting that to go another direction with the cat in the box.
Very funny.
I think it's the way the buyer is very casually sitting at his desk typing, rather than say, seeking medical attention, that makes the comic.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby tyeh26 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:00 pm UTC

I think a bobcat would be a little bigger than the one depicted...

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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Jatopian » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:38 pm UTC

I hope no one does this. At best the bobcat dies, and it's animal cruelty; at worst an unwitting postal worker or recipient dies, and it's murder.
Well, actually, at best the sender dies, and the world is better off with 1 fewer assholes, but whatever.
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Re: "A-Minus-Minus" Discussion

Postby Belial » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:53 pm UTC

Except the EMP Cannon.

Imitate that.
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