0078: "Garfield"

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0078: "Garfield"

Postby xkcd » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:23 pm UTC

http://xkcd.com/c78.html

Few people remember that back in the 80's, there was actually a period where Garfield explored and created. There was a time when I read a lot of comic collections, and since our library had a good stock, I've read every Garfield strip published before 1996 or so several times.

But I had forgotten about these:

http://www.garfield.com/comics/comics_archives_strip.html?1989-ga891023

The navigation isn't working for me. There's a copy on YTMND here.

Wikipedia:
One storyline, often referred to as the Garfield Halloween Strips, is unique among Garfield strips in that it is not meant to be humorous. It depicts Garfield awakening in a future in which the house is abandoned and he no longer exists. Fans hold various opinions and theories on the meaning behind this enigmatic storyline, varying from A Christmas Carol like interpretation to a theory that Garfield is actually dead or dying, slowly starving to death in the abandoned household.

I don't know how David Malki missed this.

Points to Ultraman on Livejournal for reminding me these strips existed.

I'm having trouble getting to them on the UComics page, but if anyone can get copies of them, please post them here.

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Postby RealGrouchy » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:25 pm UTC

I really hate it when people put music on their webpages that I can't turn off.

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Postby Shoofle » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:37 pm UTC

I think we actually have that book...

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Postby posiduck » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:08 pm UTC

I'm ultraman on Livejournal, by the way.
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Postby posiduck » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:10 pm UTC

the easiest way to see them in the Ucomics archive is to ignore the hunchback cat flash thing, and just increment the url by one integer for each of the five strips.
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Postby xkcd » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:46 pm UTC

RealGrouchy wrote:I really hate it when people put music on their webpages that I can't turn off.

In general, yes. But that's the whole thing at YTMND. Sorry for assuming people were familiar with it -- YTMND is just a site for setting animated backgrounds to music, so I didn't really think to warn.

Posiduck, thanks for the Ucomics tip and the original thing. I'm busy right now; if you don't wanna post it, I will later tonight.

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Postby posiduck » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:54 pm UTC

oops, not ucomics; I meant the garfield.com site. I don't know from ucomics.


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Garfield

Postby Sandalphon » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:39 pm UTC

Garfield was a childhood inspiration of mine, something I still hold very close to my heart, even as the strip has rapidly degenerated into poorly ghost-written rehashings of old jokes… I wanted to be a cartoonist because of comics like Garfield, Calvin & Hobbes, Doonesbury, Funky Winkerbean, Foxtrot, and so on…

I also have a humongous collection of Garfield merchandise, ranging from hundreds and hundreds of the plush toys, the glass mugs, the clocks, the official fish bowl, so forth and so on. If it was in the Paws, Inc. catalogue (old official merchandiser), I probably have it in the attic.

This is interesting. You bring up this storyline, having forgotten it existed. I never forgot this storyline. Those strips etched into my mind as one of the eeriest set of images in any comic strip I ever read as a young boy. I have tons of Garfield collections, and I have the one those are in… The one where he runs into the room and sees Jon and Odie, and they vanish, sent chills up my spine, as a child, and rereading it reminded me of it… It was, in the end, just a creepy Halloween storyline, as Davis has refuted the "hallucinations of a dying cat" theory, but, still, it was one of the most effective Halloween storylines I've read in a comic, maybe because they were so out of left field, maybe because I really loved Garfield and the idea was horrifying.

"You have no idea how alone you are, Garfield." How fucked up of a tagline is that to stick on the end of a Garfield strip? Seriously, embossed into my brain permanently.

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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:50 am UTC

Garfield without Garfield:

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Postby RealGrouchy » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:21 am UTC

Saladin wrote:Garfield without Garfield.


(As a clarification - "Garfield without Garfield" is where Garfield's thought bubbles are removed for comedic and/or surrealistic effect. That wasn't clear to me, and I had to follow the link to figure it out)


In the ones where the last panel has Garfield with one arm on the table, looking at the reader, I can almost hear him saying "In other news..."

Cute.

- RG>
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Mighty Jalapeno wrote:At least he has the decency to REMOVE THE GAP BETWEEN HIS QUOTES....
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Postby Tropylium » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:17 pm UTC

There's also various similar fan-drawn strips over here.

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Postby reach42 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:23 am UTC

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:27 am UTC

Yay, necroposting! FIRST POST necroposting!

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Postby reach42 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:47 am UTC

well, i had a comment for one of the strips. what am i supposed to do, create a new thread when there's already a perfectly good one up?

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Postby hermaj » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:09 am UTC

No. Thanks, reach42, you did the right thing.

If you're thinking of staying around the fora, maybe you can go introduce yourself in the introductions thread over in General?

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:16 am UTC

I didn't mean to come off as angry or anything. It was a cool comic, I just flashed back to my old forums where posting in a thread more than a month old was taboo.

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Postby reach42 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:17 am UTC

k :D

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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:34 am UTC

The first time I read the Halloween strips dealing with him being alone was in a 20th Anniversary book I had bought while in Washington, D.C. Jim Davis had said he wanted to do a series of strips that would be Twilight Zone-like, and very scary. What was the one thing people fear the most? Being alone. He said they received a ton of fan letters that ranged from praising him to asking if this is how the strip was going to be from now on.

My grandma had a lot of the older books, including the very first one. Garfield was a lot fatter in the first year or two. I have those books now.

We only had one of the glass mugs from McDonald's. I had a Garfield Read-Along book with the tape. I remember jumping on the bed to the bouncy intro music on the tape. I forget what the story was. I was 5 or 6 when I had the tape and book. I think a lot of us had a ton of read-along books with tapes (or CDs now) when we were around that age.

I used to watch the cartoon specials when they came on CBS. The only one I clearly remember seeing was "Garfield in Paradise". I bought it on DVD a year or two ago, but since sold it to GameSpot for some gas money. Wolfman Jack played the chief of the native tribe Garfield, Odie, and Jon run into.

I also watched the Saturday morning cartoon "Garfield and Friends" when it first came on. It got stupid after a while. I never cared for the "U.S. Acres" part either.

A little Garfield trivia question: How did Jon really acquire Odie?

A lot of people claim the strip has jumped the shark. I agree. It's nothing but the same old jokes over and over again. I think it jumped the shark right at the turn of the century.
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Postby Ronfar » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:15 pm UTC

I liked "Garfield and Friends."
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Postby arbivark » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:34 pm UTC

S o far I can't find the president garfield comics.
But here's a garfield comic generator.
http://www.dougshaw.com/garfield.html
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Garfield
http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Bullet-Assa ... ntieth/dp/ 1561632287/ref=sr_1_6/105-8933806-1273269?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182457953&sr=1-6
The Fatal Bullet: The True Account of the Assassination, Lingering Pain, Death, and Burial of James A. Garfield, Twentieth President of the United States ... of Victorian Murder (Graphic Novels)) (Paperback)

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:36 pm UTC

Uhm... was all that assassination stuff necessary?

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Postby bbctol » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:36 pm UTC

Heh heh... the Garfield comic generator can be pretty funny.

"Garfield, the neighbor boy needs some help."
"Garfield, I've decided to take up woodowrking!"
"Garfield, how do you explain this?"

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby lawnerd » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:09 am UTC

i'm wanted to note that i'm *such* a law nerd that i registered and everything for the express purpose of informing you that the proper citation format for Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music is as follows: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, 510 U.S. 569 (1993).

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby mmx49 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:47 am UTC

That's a use of thread necromancy you don't see much of...

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Felstaff » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:36 pm UTC

I agree, although it has given me licence to espouse my own memories of that particular strip of Garfield, from a topic which should have been filed away long ago.

I was a Garfield nut as a child, particularly enjoying his "BEAN ME!" strip, and the general strips revolving around Garfield being overly-stimulated with caffeine. I remember coming across those strips (particularly the end one) and feeling an overwhelming sense of loneliness. It was awful, and the last time Garfield ever actually managed to evoke any emotion from me.

Now the cartoon series, that was an entirely different kettle of fish.

Edit: If you're reading this edit, you'll be happy to know that this is my first post on the xkcd forums. I hope you found it entertaining, whimsical and yet relevant, with an underlying revisionist conceit that belied the post's emotional attachments to the subject matter.

I just hope you didn't think it sucked.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby muteKi » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:07 pm UTC

I dunno. There were some parts of the cartoon that I really liked.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Felstaff » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:50 pm UTC

By "Kettle of Fish" I mean "awesome" - Lorenzo Music's voice was absolutely excellent, just like it was for Peter Venkman's voice in The Real Ghostbusters! His sense of lilting apathy, like Steve Wright's voice, suited the lazy kitty to a tee.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby bbctol » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:19 pm UTC

The Halloween sequence, especially the colorful bowl fading away, seems to be inspired by the Valse Triste animation.

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Postby Maseiken » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:06 am UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:A little Garfield trivia question: How did Jon really acquire Odie?

He used to be his friend Lyman's, Lyman still turns up from time to time, generally in splashes featuring all the chararcters, as far as I can tell, Jon acquired him through a sort of Osmosis, He was Lyman's, then he was around when Lyman wasn't, then he was Jon's.

I've never seen a story arc in which he changed hands (Then again, I've never seen a Story arc.)

Everything on this thread is fantastic, I'm beginning to think there's more to Jim Davis than meets the eye...
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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:24 am UTC

RealGrouchy wrote:I really hate it when people put music on their webpages that I can't turn off.

- RG>
Not to mention showing comic strips in an animated GIF. Are we supposed to be able to read all the dialogue before it advances to the next strip?
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby chishm » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:58 am UTC

I remember there was a story arc last year about John finally going out with Liz. It was great to see more than one-gag strips. It had plot and character development. Looking at today's strip, I see it's back to the usual material, although it did make me smile.

I prefer to think that the 1989 Halloween arc ended like A Christmas Carol, with Garfield waking up in the present after seeing what could happen, rather than the grim alternative that is the hallucinations of a dieing cat.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby joeframbach » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:24 am UTC

Unrelated: I think this is cool.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby muteKi » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:14 pm UTC

Felstaff wrote:By "Kettle of Fish" I mean "awesome" - Lorenzo Music's voice was absolutely excellent, just like it was for Peter Venkman's voice in The Real Ghostbusters! His sense of lilting apathy, like Steve Wright's voice, suited the lazy kitty to a tee.


Ah. I see. I really liked all the meta-humor and such in it. It had that sort of feel that Earthworm Jim had as well.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby NagnaZul » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:28 am UTC

I liked that line a lot ("The world is burning, run").

If you're reading this, memorize it.

You'll see it pop up in a few years. You'll know when you see it.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Maseiken » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:14 am UTC

That wasn't ominous at all...


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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Jorpho » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:23 am UTC

This thread needs a link to http://www.lasagnacat.com/ . Blazing Dadaist glory, indeed.

I like the "Suicide is Painless" one (05/16/1987).

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Jorpho » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:27 pm UTC

All this time, it's just been waiting for someone to take the next step.
Garfield Minus Garfield

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby e946 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:59 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:All this time, it's just been waiting for someone to take the next step.
Garfield Minus Garfield


IMO it's a lot better if garfield stays in the strip but his dialog is removed. Otherwise it looks like he's talking to someone just outside the view.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Syphon » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:18 pm UTC

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

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