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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby michaelandjimi » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:33 am UTC

I saw them first time around, but they were black! Now they are clearly red and green.

Who's been messing with reality?
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby LassLisa » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:51 am UTC

I had to scroll up and down a few times to see the "dead pixels" on the strip past the dead pixels on my monitor... my brain just edits 'em out now.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby JBridge » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:57 am UTC

Just imagine if life had a console...

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/save
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/give nuke

You can guess what I'm going for.

Make sure you have fraps running, though. Something like this needs to go on YouTube.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Stickfodder » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:03 am UTC

mudge wrote:
Kaiyas wrote:
mudge wrote:
space_raptor wrote:I thought they'd already found the maximum resolution at which the human eye could theoretically see at. If that makes sense.

Oh yeah:

Image

sorry


So, I can tell there are orange circles and green circles, and the orange ones spell out words, but I couldn't make the words out clearly until I went into photoshop.

Am I slightly colorblind? Do the words pop out for anybody?

Wow....I feel bad for you. :(

Yes, it's a bit funny to read, but not illegible if you try.


Hah, don't worry about it. For one, I haven't been taking a vow of silence so that I can get be a fighter pilot, and for another, if you were to point at a specific dot and say "Is this orange or green?" I would be able to tell you exactly which one it was. The edges of the letters are just a little hard to determine without focusing specifically and playing connect the dots.

wait what about becoming a fighter pilot? If you cant read that even though you can see the different colors i hope you never have to fly over open ocean on a day with a clear blue sky

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby FinalSin » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:03 am UTC

DSDM wrote:
Degaussing the matrix would make for a spectacular light show.


Dude, what did you think the Aurora Borealis was? :lol:


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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Avoidist » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:39 am UTC

FinalSin wrote:
DSDM wrote:
Degaussing the matrix would make for a spectacular light show.


Dude, what did you think the Aurora Borealis was? :lol:


Some bored guy with a really big magnet.


I think you're bordering on Gaia theory there.

Seeing dead pixels really isn't that strange. I always say: "If you aren't seeing dead pixels, then you haven't been staring at the Sun long enough".

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Emperorsteele » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:45 am UTC

.. the dead pixels look red and green to me =/

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby zonk » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 am UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:I believe the technical term for this is "macular degeneration."

There's no end to the technology jokes you can make about The Matrix. For example:

One word:

noclip.

noclip? only thing i associate that with is a cheat code in star wars jedi knight 2, where it makes you able to go through walls and just fly everywhere
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby AdmiralJustin » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:05 am UTC

zonk wrote:
Steve the Pocket wrote:I believe the technical term for this is "macular degeneration."

There's no end to the technology jokes you can make about The Matrix. For example:

One word:

noclip.

noclip? only thing i associate that with is a cheat code in star wars jedi knight 2, where it makes you able to go through walls and just fly everywhere


That would be the point.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Vanishing Hitchhiker » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:10 am UTC

The second I read the second panel I stopped and looked for fake dead pixels. I was pleasantly surprised to see they were in color though.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Domovoi » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:28 am UTC

'; DROP DATABASE;-- wrote:I swear the other day I saw jagged edges. Like how on low-res stuff like N64 games you can see the pixels at the edge of a polygon. And these were fucking big too, must have been like 1 square inch per pixel! I wonder WTF was going on that the resolution had to drop so low for such a short time.


Oh my god, I see them too!

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Somebody fix the anti-aliasing, guys!

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Dobblesworth » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:36 am UTC

This LCD monitor of mine must be at a far denser resolution setting than intended, as I didn't even notice the nanoscopic red/green dots until reading this fora topic in bemusement, then going back with the on-creen magnifier to find them. Very subtle.

I have seen the Matrix, but the dead pixels joke threw me off as I don't think I've had one of those experiences yet.

Initially I thought it was a nerd's way of looking up one morning to find a star/moon in the sky had gone supernova/been destroyed respectively, which from a distance might be one pixel's worth of sky...

I suppose the figure, trees, landscape and text really divert your attention away from those 3 (initially 2) harmless pinpricks in the sky, unless you instantly get the reference, which I don't... AGAIN :evil:

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Yla » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:38 am UTC

Last night, I watched Matrix 3 and surfed the IMDB trivia for the trilogy. Now this. :P

Avoidist wrote:Seeing dead pixels really isn't that strange. I always say: "If you aren't seeing dead pixels, then you haven't been staring at the Sun long enough".

It don't have to be the Sun. Any lamp going out, leaving the room in darkness, will also do.
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Gelsamel » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:50 am UTC

The only problem with this comic is that the Matrix isn't deep and makes a shitty philosophical talk point.
"Give up here?"
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby keozen » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:56 am UTC

Yeah, there may be the odd dead pixel or two in the sky but nature is beautiful when up and running well. On a good day you can see all the way to the clipping plane
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby 1=0 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:10 am UTC

DSDM wrote:
Degaussing the matrix would make for a spectacular light show.


Dude, what did you think the Aurora Borealis was? :lol:


Exactly my thought. I was gonna post it but you beat me to it... (dis)advantages of living on the wrong continent.

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(And yes, you're right of course. Besides, considering the tech available at the time, I doubt they had a big enough LCD for the sky so it _is_ a CRT :mrgreen: )

PS: thanks for pointing the presence of "dead" pixels in the comic... I had managed to miss them. That'll teach me a) that I'm apparently a n00b and b) to pay really attention to what Mr Munro does :oops:
I feel diagonally parked in a parallel universe.


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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Ari » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:22 am UTC

woktiny wrote:
DSDM wrote:
Degaussing the matrix would make for a spectacular light show.


Dude, what did you think the Aurora Borealis is? :lol:


Fix'd


You forgot to add Aurora Australis. :)

Steve the Pocket wrote:I believe the technical term for this is "macular degeneration."

There's no end to the technology jokes you can make about The Matrix. For example:

One word:

noclip.


Suddenly I vaguely wished the Ghosts in the sequel said that. And let's just quickly pre-emptively address all the coming comments: Yes, we all know the sequels sucked. :)

Gelsamel wrote:The only problem with this comic is that the Matrix isn't deep and makes a shitty philosophical talk point.


It's not original philosophy, but many people certainly regard it as deep. Again, sadly, there was little follow-up to that angle in the second and third movies, sadly.
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby transpetaflops » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:28 am UTC

But since the pixels are red and green, aren't they in fact "stuck" pixels? "Dead" pixels are just dead = black. Will the Matrix change now...?

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Greyjoy » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:34 am UTC

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mudge wrote:Hah, don't worry about it. For one, I haven't been taking a vow of silence so that I can get be a fighter pilot, and for another, if you were to point at a specific dot and say "Is this orange or green?" I would be able to tell you exactly which one it was. The edges of the letters are just a little hard to determine without focusing specifically and playing connect the dots.

wait what about becoming a fighter pilot? If you cant read that even though you can see the different colors i hope you never have to fly over open ocean on a day with a clear blue sky


It's a Little Miss Sunshine reference.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Domovoi » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:42 am UTC

transpetaflops wrote:But since the pixels are red and green, aren't they in fact "stuck" pixels? "Dead" pixels are just dead = black. Will the Matrix change now...?


"Dead" or "stuck" doesn't refer to color. If it's black, all subpixels are dead/stuck. If it's a color, then one or two subpixels are dead/stuck. So in this case, the sky is actually experiencing dead subpixels.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Pixel » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:24 pm UTC

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby jeremy.degroot » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:31 pm UTC

I wonder why dead pixels in the sky would be red and green -- I always figured they'd be the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby rrwoods » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:52 pm UTC

Gelsamel wrote:The only problem with this comic is that the Matrix isn't deep and makes several shitty philosophical talk points.

Fix'd. The Matrix doesn't fail hard at philosophy just once, it does it on several levels. Even more if we count the whole trilogy.

Still a great fun movie that everyone should see though.
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby DragonHawk » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:53 pm UTC

rwald wrote:I'd bet something like 70% of all people reading this had to clean their screens first.

Pfft. Clean my monitor? Hell, no. I just moved the mouse pointer around to see what specs the pointer covered up and what specs covered the pointer. That's why we have mice attached to computers, you know, as a screen test mechanism.
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby schrodingersduck » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:21 pm UTC

Domovoi wrote:
transpetaflops wrote:But since the pixels are red and green, aren't they in fact "stuck" pixels? "Dead" pixels are just dead = black. Will the Matrix change now...?


"Dead" or "stuck" doesn't refer to color. If it's black, all subpixels are dead/stuck. If it's a color, then one or two subpixels are dead/stuck. So in this case, the sky is actually experiencing dead subpixels.


Yeah - when I heard about the dead pixels for the DS, I thought it meant black, until funny yellow-green specks started appearing on the display.

Speaking of which, how many pixels have to go before we can claim a refund from God?

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby zenten » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:32 pm UTC

mudge wrote:
space_raptor wrote:I thought they'd already found the maximum resolution at which the human eye could theoretically see at. If that makes sense.

Oh yeah:

Image

sorry


So, I can tell there are orange circles and green circles, and the orange ones spell out words, but I couldn't make the words out clearly until I went into photoshop.

Am I slightly colorblind? Do the words pop out for anybody?


The last word looks like "Bund" to me, but otherwise I can read it properly (and I was able to easily work it out from context).

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby uberben » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:36 pm UTC

i definitely wasn't looking at my screen while the comic was loading and the first thing i thought when i looked at the screen was "no! dead pixels!" and then i moved the browser window and saw it was in fact part of the comic and then read that it was about dead pixels and then i laughed

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby tgape » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:49 pm UTC

phlip wrote:Possibly, but it's just as likely that your screen doesn't show those colours with as much contrast as mine. If you've got a cheap monitor, or a cheap video card, or haven't spent ages obsessively twerking the settings, then it's likely your screen doesn't quite match the standard (if there even is a standard).


Note that if you just bought a <insert name of real computer here>, none of that time twerking the settings would be needed. (That's why they cost so much - they pay someone else to spend ages obsessively twerking the settings for you!)

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby DSDM » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:51 pm UTC

iddqd
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby rrwoods » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:03 pm UTC

DSDM wrote:iddqd
idkfa

Pshaw, so cliché. You *know* that idbeholdi would be infinitely cool. Especially if it wears off while someone is looking at you.

EDIT: Or hell, iddtiddt -- "Yeah, I know you're at the store. I can see you." *cue twilight zone music*
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Postby DragonHawk » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:08 pm UTC

DSDM wrote:iddqd
idkfa


idspispopd

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby tradiuz » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:11 pm UTC

DSDM wrote:iddqd
idkfa


Damn you for beating me to it. Degreelessness (You know, I never really got the joke til now... how sad) mode for the win.


I must have typed IDDQD in at some point in life, because I have no degree, but I have an awesome job.


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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby PatrickRsGhost » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:18 pm UTC

This reminds me of the Photoshops comic. You get so used to seeing things in digital that it's hard to not see them in the real world.
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby savvu » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:23 pm UTC

"it is the length scale at which the structure of spacetime becomes dominated by quantum effects, giving it a discrete or foamy structure"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_length

So the resolution of life is about 6.27e32 DPI:
http://www.google.com/search?q=1%20inch ... 20c%5e3%29

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby und3rdark » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:35 pm UTC

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby jc » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:36 pm UTC

ModerateClasshole wrote:
mudge wrote:
space_raptor wrote:Image


So, I can tell there are orange circles and green circles, and the orange ones spell out words, but I couldn't make the words out clearly until I went into photoshop.

Am I slightly colorblind? Do the words pop out for anybody?

They pop out for me, but the differing sizes of the circles delays me "spelling out" the words in my head for a moment or two. Makes me actually have to stop and think for once.

Same here, though to read them easily, I used the same trick that makes the "dead pixels" stand out against the dust grains on the screen: Grab the scrollbar and move it up and down slowly. I find that this makes such things stand out better. With the color-blind insult image, it also works if I sorta "fuzz" my eyes to blur the details. That doesn't work for the dead pixels in the comic, of course, any better than it works with real dead pixels on a screen.

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby PhantomReality » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:51 pm UTC

Gelsamel wrote:The only problem with this comic is that the Matrix isn't deep and makes a shitty philosophical talk point.


That's fucking harsh man. The people who usually discuss it are tards, this is true (I was one of them for a long time), but it touches on some seriously deep shit. To misquote Larry and Andy: bringing existentialism, transcendental thought, and universal religious symbolism to the general idiotic public through cyberpunk robots vs digital ninjas. Give it some credit yo.

If you say that it makes for shitty philisophical talk then you're not giving the movie enough credit for it's allusions. Even more so in the second and third movies...even if they did kind of suck ass as movies, they did have a ton of symbolism and brought up some interesting points, and at the very least created an awesome visual depiction of varying philisophical ideas. Like how many thought experiments can you do with the train station? Purgatory in the 21st century anyone?

Hope: the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and greatest weakness. That's a pretty profound statement and I think it would make for great philisophical talk. That conversation between Neo and the Architect is basically modeled after a Socratic dialog...


Okay Matrix fanboy is done with his wall of text now. *runs off to find a Matrix discussion thread*
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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby MarioMaster151 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:28 pm UTC

i am red-green colorblind, so can someone tell me what the posted colorblind test actually says?

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Belial » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:50 pm UTC

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Re: "Morning" Discussion

Postby Supa-Man » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:54 pm UTC

This seems more along the lines of The Truman Show than The Matrix. There wouldn't be dead pixels if the image was broadcast directly into our brains.

I must now go outside and scan the sky for dead pixels.
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