0423: "Finish Line"

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0423: "Finish Line"

Postby Red Wolf » Wed May 14, 2008 4:04 am UTC

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Alt text: The question with Lucy and the football was always whether, at some level, she believed the things she said.

Using philosophy to win at video games. I should do this more often.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Wes Janson » Wed May 14, 2008 4:05 am UTC

One does wonder...

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby ysth » Wed May 14, 2008 4:06 am UTC

Red Wolf wrote:Alt text: The question with Lucy and the football was always whether, at some level, she believed the things she said.


Of course she did.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby michaelandjimi » Wed May 14, 2008 4:06 am UTC

I've actually done this, so... ner.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed May 14, 2008 4:08 am UTC

I wonder how many other mustaches have been drawn for XKCD before this. Is it a first, do you think?

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Aquila » Wed May 14, 2008 4:09 am UTC

Leave it to Randall to continually extract meaningful philosophy from Mario Kart.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Spot » Wed May 14, 2008 4:17 am UTC

You know, this reminds me of something I used to do when playing Mario Kart DS online. If I had won or lost three out of the four races, I would do the whole last track backwards and let the other person win.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby benjhuey » Wed May 14, 2008 4:19 am UTC

This... actually works sometimes. :D
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Linux0s » Wed May 14, 2008 4:20 am UTC

This is probably one of those "let's never speak of this again" moments.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby aerojad » Wed May 14, 2008 4:24 am UTC

Aquila wrote:Leave it to Randall to continually extract meaningful philosophy from Mario Kart.

Another winner.

and yet, I want to go throw red shells at people now
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby aleflamedyud » Wed May 14, 2008 4:25 am UTC

That. Bitch.

I demand a round of Diddy Kong Racing!
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Contrabass » Wed May 14, 2008 4:53 am UTC

The thing to do is to stop right before the finish line and then reverse into victory. Best racing taunt ever.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Wyvernlink » Wed May 14, 2008 4:55 am UTC

I love stopping on the finish line so that the comp's red shells knock me over the line and make me win. :D

That and it's easier to philosophy win in a LAN match of halo, just convince them that standing out in the open is a good strategy or tell them where you are going to be, they never believe you. :P

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Space Dog » Wed May 14, 2008 5:34 am UTC

Haha! I was playing with my sister earlier today and she said next time we play we should explore the maps, this comic had perfect timing :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Xeio » Wed May 14, 2008 5:43 am UTC

aleflamedyud wrote:I demand a round of Diddy Kong Racing!


Oh. God. No.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby cranberrytuna » Wed May 14, 2008 5:56 am UTC

Of course he lost! He's playing as Luigi.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Wed May 14, 2008 6:01 am UTC

Contrabass wrote:The thing to do is to stop right before the finish line and then reverse into victory. Best racing taunt ever.
In Mario Kart 64, apparently, you'd get double points for this, as the AI takes over, turns around, and crosses the line again. :mrgreen:

Also, good way to get beat up in Diddy Kong Racing (which is awesome, you blasphemer, you know who you are): at any time during the race, even if people (including you) have already finished, you can pause and restart/quit the race, and nobody gets any points.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby JoshJ » Wed May 14, 2008 6:08 am UTC

ANYTHING is more fun than a Blue Shell. Annoying things really shouldn't exist. Punishing good players is crappy game design.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby AtG » Wed May 14, 2008 6:09 am UTC

cranberrytuna wrote:Of course he lost! He's playing as Luigi.


Luigi is the smarter brother!
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby russianspy1234 » Wed May 14, 2008 6:20 am UTC

the latter

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby TheHand » Wed May 14, 2008 7:00 am UTC

That is a fabulous PBF strip to be sure.

But this XKCD strip just proves that there is no better place to be an ass than in video games. The stakes are low, but emotions run high.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby stormoftara » Wed May 14, 2008 7:24 am UTC

I used to stop at the finish line, and wait for everyone to catch up and then win. It drove my brothers crazy.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Dobblesworth » Wed May 14, 2008 9:11 am UTC

Question : Who is this 'Lucy', and is this American Football or Football Football he's referring to?

I am certainly especially guilty of gloating to my competitors in Mario Kart through my manouevres, such as slowing to a crawl on the end straight or reversing over the finish line. One time however it got the better of me in Baby Park circuit, when I stopped, waited for my poorly-performing mother (who I was creaming 13-0 in that nights' series), then accelerated on her impending arrival, waiting far too long to start again though, and losing by an inch as a result.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Afal » Wed May 14, 2008 9:33 am UTC

Come on the reference is easy. Hardly anything. In fact you could say it was peanuts!

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby the tree » Wed May 14, 2008 9:34 am UTC

Dobblesworth wrote:Question : Who is this 'Lucy', and is this American Football or Football Football he's referring to?
I was wondering this as well.

I do occasionally spontaneously stop playing to win, often in C&C I find that you can get your opponent to no longer be a serious threat and just make sure that you complete the technology tree before winning, maybe with your opponent's technology as well.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Shadic » Wed May 14, 2008 9:54 am UTC

I like how Luigi is drawn.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Felstaff » Wed May 14, 2008 10:01 am UTC

JoshJ wrote:ANYTHING is more fun than a Blue Shell. Annoying things really shouldn't exist. Punishing good players is crappy game design.

A good player can ensure he, or she, takes out the other front runners with them. A really good player can slip into second at the right moment. And an excellent player can avoid the deflected blast radius totally and tootle off, their kart powered solely by smug.

I hate those guys. Also those who
Contrabass wrote:...stop right before the finish line and then reverse into victory...

Unless it's me, as it makes my six-year old brother throw his controller down in frustration. Then I taunt him, as mocking a six-year old is a perfect way to establish one's superiority over life.

Also: Alt-text for the confused.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Dobblesworth » Wed May 14, 2008 10:14 am UTC

Ohhhh, so it was the Snoopy version of Lucy and the football, right I get it now...
In response to Randall's ponderings', no. She always pulled that prank as she knew he would fall for it.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby StClair » Wed May 14, 2008 10:31 am UTC

Deception to obtain trivial victory: the core of any strong and lasting relationship.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby The Idler » Wed May 14, 2008 10:59 am UTC

How about the Mario Kart "Oh Christ that wasn't the last lap!" manoeuvre, which involves a celebratory right fist in the air, followed by a frenzied attempt to get the controller back in two hands as Mario veers off into some quicksand.

This happens to me a lot even when I'm playing alone.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Jekka_Lynn » Wed May 14, 2008 11:27 am UTC

Lol, I'm really mean when it comes to this game I keep things like blue shells and lightning bolts till people start gloating about their inevitable win then..... I SMITE THEM!!!!!
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby cyberia » Wed May 14, 2008 12:05 pm UTC

My friends and I still play Mario Kart 64 a lot and I still love zapping people with lightning and then zooming past for a last-second victory.

I'm pretty sure I've also done the 'stop an inch before the finish line and wait for them to catch up' thing as well.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Hawknc » Wed May 14, 2008 12:30 pm UTC

The Idler wrote:How about the Mario Kart "Oh Christ that wasn't the last lap!" manoeuvre, which involves a celebratory right fist in the air, followed by a frenzied attempt to get the controller back in two hands as Mario veers off into some quicksand.

This happens to me a lot even when I'm playing alone.

I do that...more often than I particularly want to admit.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby vodka.cobra » Wed May 14, 2008 1:11 pm UTC

Red Wolf wrote:Using philosophy to win at video games. I should do this more often.

Just don't get existential!
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby riley » Wed May 14, 2008 1:18 pm UTC

on SMK:DD I am pretty good at keeping someone else in first place for a blue shell, but my ultimate aspiration (cough) was to dodge them completely. I succeeded only twice, and interestingly both on that beachy course with the ridiculous alternate route to the left of the water (Peach Beach?)... but those times were awesome.

I think the computer may decide to immediately award another blue shell once you dodge, though - both times I heard the hissing of another one within a lap.



Can we see Mario Kart preference levels? I have ranked the three TV-based ones on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best of the 3 and 1 being the worst.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby crazdgamer » Wed May 14, 2008 1:25 pm UTC

I feel the need to compare this comic with last week's episode of Survivor, wherein the only guy left, who was on a individual-immunity-winning streak, was somehow convinced that he needed to give up immunity in order to have a shot at winning the game.

There were only 5 people left out of the 20 that started, so it's kinda like he stopped at the finish line because his opponents told him to.

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Kirikasama » Wed May 14, 2008 1:41 pm UTC

Afal wrote:Come on the reference is easy. Hardly anything. In fact you could say it was peanuts!


I started reading that thinking "Come on, don't be a dick, just tell us where it's from." Then it suddenly hit me reading the last word. Very clever ;)

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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby vodka.cobra » Wed May 14, 2008 2:07 pm UTC

I am honestly surprised this thread went this far without a weegee.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby Belial » Wed May 14, 2008 2:39 pm UTC

JoshJ wrote:ANYTHING is more fun than a Blue Shell. Annoying things really shouldn't exist. Punishing good players is crappy game design.


If your goal is to keep as many players still caring about the game for as long as possible (as opposed to one player pulling so far ahead that the others can just toss their controllers and go get a snack and talk about how much they hate that smug bastard), the blue shell is actually brilliant.
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Re: "Finish Line" discussion

Postby zachary » Wed May 14, 2008 3:10 pm UTC

Actually... I really need to forget about trying to win and just drive around exploring the levels in 1 Player mode sometime. That sounds fun. Some of them are really beautifully designed, and I know there's some short cuts I'm not aware of yet. Of course... sometimes it pays to be lagging behind... *cough* bullet bill on final lap *cough*

I really like Shy Guy Beach in terms of design. I wish I could get one of those VR headsets and hamster balls and walk around in that level.
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