0471: "Aversion Fads"

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0471: "Aversion Fads"

Postby joee » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:01 am UTC

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Alt text: Hey, are you friends with any hamsters? This kite needs a passenger.

http://xkcd.com/471


... alt-text! where is it?
I have friends who are furries. They're just like my other friends, and I definitely have weirder friends than my furry friends. So i never got the whole "ewww furries" thing.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby glasnt » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:01 am UTC

I was scared! Now alt-text *whimper*

Also, hi joee ^_^

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby niko7865 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:02 am UTC

No alt text?!

Furries are one of the least disturbing fetishes you can find on the internet....
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby DaMullet » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:02 am UTC

So it's not just me who can't see it... Thank god.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby suso » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:03 am UTC

Strange, when I couldn't find the alt text, I had that same feeling I have when the internet is not available.
Imagine theres no signatures....

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby madhollywood » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:03 am UTC

Yeah it never occurred to me how many fables have bizarre connotations to a Furry. I think if I really thought about it at some length I could find myself deeply disturbed by that.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby TheHand » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:03 am UTC

A good reference to an old fable. I guess it could have just as easily been the fox and the crocodile in a harsher world... but then again, crocs don't have fur.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby mhdagley » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:04 am UTC

niko7865 wrote:No alt text?!

Furries are one of the least disturbing fetishes you can find on the internet....

I so dont want to know.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby rwald » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:05 am UTC

I'd like to say that the lack of alt text worries me more than furries, but that would be a lie.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby joee » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:05 am UTC

Alt text is up now, btw.

p.s. hi glasnt!
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby joeyhndc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:05 am UTC

Strictly speaking, that's not a furry... Oh god I've said too much!

Edit: Heh, guess she finally found someone who wanted to fly kites.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby bobmarksdale » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:06 am UTC

Alt Text:

"Hey, are you friends with any hamsters? This kite needs a passenger."

Update first post?

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Azrael001 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:06 am UTC

I came here to find the Alt Text. I was glad that it was here. I could not find it.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:07 am UTC

Isn't the mouse like a little guy that the lion doesn't think much of and the lion learns not to underestimate others because in the end the mouse helps the lion?

I can't really see the connection besides the helping.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby shortchar » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:09 am UTC

I never thought furries were a fetish... I thought they were just anthropomorphic characters?
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Boe_Jangles » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:11 am UTC

shortchar wrote:I never thought furries were a fetish... I thought they were just anthropomorphic characters?


Those are part of the whole furry 'thing.'

About furries being a punching bag. Hypocrisy at its best.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Sgeo » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:12 am UTC

Read today's xkcd in Google Chrome on a VM. Thought there was a Chrome issue when I saw no alt-text, and no way to get to the alt-text. Glad it wasn't chrome..

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:14 am UTC

Furries are a fetish in the sense of the word that means strange fixation.

"Sexual fetish" isn't always implied with the word "fetish", but by internet usage of the world one wouldn't really know.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby pyroman » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:14 am UTC

alt text.... where is the alt text... gasp!

otherwise though this is very true.Just because someone does something erm... different doesn't mean that they should be auto shunned. I feel this should also apply to the gay community as well. It may not necessarily appeal to you but if it makes them happy why the hell not?


*Edit: phew! the alt text is fixed :D
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby GrandPubah » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:14 am UTC

GodShapedBullet wrote:Isn't the mouse like a little guy that the lion doesn't think much of and the lion learns not to underestimate others because in the end the mouse helps the lion?

I can't really see the connection besides the helping.


The Lion was going to kill the mouse initially, but changed his mind. The Mouse then paid the Lion back later on by chewing through the net.
Analog: Girl saves furry from assholes. Furry "owes her one".

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:17 am UTC

Thanks, GrandPubah!

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby glasnt » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:17 am UTC

Oh thank god for the alt text -_-

I was scared :S

I don't mind furries, as I knew people in my youth with an abnormal liking of tigers and fluffy animals with big muscles, so its not that unusual.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby felltir » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:18 am UTC

I am furry, and greatly love this comic. :)
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby YenTheFirst » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:19 am UTC

Maybe it's just me, but on most forums I've been on, ther've been furries who will talk your ear off about how they're always picked on, making nazi references, etc.

I personally hold nothing against consenting adults being consenting adults, but in internet social life, I find it hard to feel sympathetic for a subset of the extremely vocal and defensive furries.

also, i can haz accusations of furophobia now?

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby pyroman » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:20 am UTC

YenTheFirst wrote:Maybe it's just me, but on most forums I've been on, ther've been furries who will talk your ear off about how they're always picked on, making nazi references, etc.


erm... Godwin's law.... :D
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:22 am UTC

Most forums I've been on don't have enough furries to be mean to them in the first place.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby SpotWeld » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:24 am UTC

This comic reminds me so much of another discussion I had where I was trying to explain why furrycons are adverse to inviting reporters.
It was rather awkward trying to find a better way to put the sentiment "once bitten, twice shy" without actually saying it.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Handie » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:25 am UTC

What exactly is a furry?
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby SpotWeld » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:26 am UTC

Most forums I've been on don't have enough furries to be mean to them in the first place.


We'd rather prefer you keep thinking that.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby felltir » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:28 am UTC

SpotWeld wrote:
Most forums I've been on don't have enough furries to be mean to them in the first place.


We'd rather prefer you keep thinking that.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby SpotWeld » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:29 am UTC

Handie wrote:What exactly is a furry?


Operational defintition of "Furry"

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HistidineTheCat » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:30 am UTC

Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Khaz » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:30 am UTC

I'm a furry, but I've been an xkcd fan for a long long time now. I just had to comment on this one though. This is SO VERY TRUE. I understand that having this interest in furry is a strange and unusual thing, but some of the people who attack them most (I'm looking at YOU, /b/) are the ones with far more sick and twisted interests.

I admire this guy for writing comics that while they may be witty and surrealistic, seem to come from such a level-minded perspective. I have yet to read an xkcd comic I disagree with in principle, or cannot relate to in some way.

So once again, I say thanks. :P Not for promoting furries so much as denouncing the hypocritical internet-tough-guys who attack them just to be cool.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Amnesiasoft » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:31 am UTC

I'm suddenly reminded of the conversation my friends and I once had:

Pyrosity: Debate topic for fun: Why are furries considered weird?
Me: They're not weird, end of debate.
Pyrosity: And thus the great gods of truth came and smoteth the debate.

Ok, so only one other friend was involved, but the others were there.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby YenTheFirst » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:32 am UTC

pyroman wrote:
YenTheFirst wrote:Maybe it's just me, but on most forums I've been on, ther've been furries who will talk your ear off about how they're always picked on, making nazi references, etc.


erm... Godwin's law.... :D


A corallary to Godwin's law: the likeliness of a nazi reference is directly proportional to the ratio of furry to non-furry posters.

i.e., on an all furry board, or non-furry board, there will be fewer nazi references due to furriness. However, there exists some ratio of furry to non furry posters which optimizes the application of Godwin.

Now we need to Figure out the Persecution Constant (P.C.), so we can calculate the expected Nazis/Post.

(In all seriousness, though, broad generalizations, whether they be about atheists, mormons, catholics, lesbians, straight people, pedophiles, terrorists, presidential candidates, or xkcd readers, are generally counterproductive)

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby blakat1313 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:33 am UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")

There are occasional S&M conventions. I suppose you could count gay pride parades, too, if you want to get technical.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HistidineTheCat » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:34 am UTC

Here's another question: Did furries exist before Disney/anthropomorphic cartoons? Serious question.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Khaz » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:36 am UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")

Just want to point out that there's more to furry than just a sexual fetish. Not to everyone, granted, there are a fair number that enjoy it solely for that aspect... But I've seen children at furry conventions having a great time before. There's enough in the fandom to keep anyone interested, be it porn, art, fiction, or random things of general interest.

They're more akin to Trekkies than S&M enthusiasts...

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby rangerdean » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:41 am UTC

The way I recall it as one of Aesop's fables is that the lion is toying with the mouse, being unkind and calling it inconsequential, but the mouse gets away.
Later, the lion gets a thorn in it's paw but cannot get it out. The mouse, being the "bigger" creature, approaches and offers to help. The lion cannot see what a mouse can do, but of course the mouse is able to remove the thorn.
The lion learns that being big and powerful is not as important as being kind and considerate.

Or some such.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HistidineTheCat » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:43 am UTC

Khaz wrote:
HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")

Just want to point out that there's more to furry than just a sexual fetish. Not to everyone, granted, there are a fair number that enjoy it solely for that aspect... But I've seen children at furry conventions having a great time before. There's enough in the fandom to keep anyone interested, be it porn, art, fiction, or random things of general interest.

They're more akin to Trekkies than S&M enthusiasts...


Hm.. from what I heard from a furry convention, it wasn't a place you would take your kids! Though I admit that is second-hand info.


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